grumpy old windsurfers!

Sails that crack up after three seasons without undue exposure to UV.

PEBAB

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Pacey said..
The fact that Tuttle heads use a sloping top with angled screws rather than a horizontal top with vertical screws. Awful mechanical design and causes all sorts of compatibility problems

? Does this mean you have to angle the screw driver to line things up and tighten fin screws?

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Ian K said..

marc5 said..
Calling the strut that connects the foil fuselage to the board the "mast." We already have a mast (it's part of your rig). Confusing when you tell someone to move the mast forward. Who's in charge of naming stuff besides Adam and Eve? Let's call it a strut.

On the AC75s it's called a "foil arm"

Very interesting!!!!!!!!!

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sailquik said..
grumpy old windsurfers!

I'm a grumpy young one, well ok middle aged.
the amount of time and money I've spent/waisted to get an hour sailing is crazy, just placed my order for new 2021kit last week so I guess I never learn.

People trying to off load c*#p like this at stupid prices. $760 for a set of three.

The bloody ads that pop up just as I go to click on something in this forum

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snides8 said..
The bloody ads that pop up just as I go to click on something in this forum

Just in the last week... annoying!!

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sboardcrazy said..

Pacey said..
The fact that Tuttle heads use a sloping top with angled screws rather than a horizontal top with vertical screws. Awful mechanical design and causes all sorts of compatibility problems

? Does this mean you have to angle the screw driver to line things up and tighten fin screws?

There is a long and a short answer. I'll go with the short answer.

NO

I'd have thought the short answer to the question regarding Pacey's statement, as it was phrased, is "Yes"

Selling forums that have listings of 30 odd year old gear being advertised as 'ideal for beginner or improver', or stuff totally unrelated to windsurfing at all.......eg kites. haha

Surprised no one has mentioned mast curves

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musorianin said..
Obsession with light construction for a couple of meaningless kg savings over durability.

Umm, more like only 500g savings.

Even more silly

Not having pulleys on extension line up with sail. Lets just have all sail tack fittings at 90deg like Severne do

Mast curves - hell yes Gestalt. I mean if they wanna not have a standard then just print it on there like IMCS and curve percentage. Why not?

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Mark _australia said..
Not having pulleys on extension line up with sail. Lets just have all sail tack fittings at 90deg like Severne do

Mast curves - hell yes Gestalt. I mean if they wanna not have a standard then just print it on there like IMCS and curve percentage. Why not?

Totally. Just publish the curve so as consumers we can make informed decisions.

Sail specs in odd numbers!

405cm luff for a 400cm mast with extensions having 2cm increments - WTF?
169cm outhaul with boom having 2cm even increments - WTF?

In the modern age when we are all trying to get maximum efficiency with everything tight and rigid why would they suggest rigging on a 168 boom and the sail being too "full" or rigging on a 170cm boom and having the sail too "flat" or with 1cm of rope allowing the clew to slop around?
Seriously why wouldn't the sail manufacturers either add or remove a bit of sail cloth to make the specs even? Alternatively just lie about the specs and print on the sail accordingly. It's like me getting in my car and the manual saying that the optimum driving gear to be in is between 4th and 5th gear!!......

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Mark _australia said..
Not having pulleys on extension line up with sail. Lets just have all sail tack fittings at 90deg like Severne do

Mast curves - hell yes Gestalt. I mean if they wanna not have a standard then just print it on there like IMCS and curve percentage. Why not?

Ah yes the pulley issue, im a bit confused with this one. Always had sails with opposing pulleys as you mentioned and could never get them close together, then i watched a rigging video by david ezzy and doin it his way i can now easily downhaul till they actually touch each other no problems. Then i recently got my first severne sail an was pleasantly suprised to find the pulleys inline with the extension pulleys, BUT..... no matter which way i thread the pulleys the sail pulleys start to twist as soon as they get within 2 cm of each other because of either the tied of end or the cleat end being on the wrong side of the pulley. Is there a trick to severne sails cause i spent an hour in the back yard trying the thread every which way but the bloody thing just kept twisting every time when they got within 2cm of each other

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Mark _australia said..
Not having pulleys on extension line up with sail. Lets just have all sail tack fittings at 90deg like Severne do

No they should all be in line so you can loop and go a Duotone XT.2.0 extension

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Mark _australia said..
Not having pulleys on extension line up with sail. Lets just have all sail tack fittings at 90deg like Severne do

Nah Mark. It's just an intelligence test on rope threading.

This is 90 Degree offset pulleys. I grant you that wave sail bases and sails may be another story.

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Chinny Oz said..
Sail specs in odd numbers!

405cm luff for a 400cm mast with extensions having 2cm increments - WTF?
169cm outhaul with boom having 2cm even increments - WTF?

In the modern age when we are all trying to get maximum efficiency with everything tight and rigid why would they suggest rigging on a 168 boom and the sail being too "full" or rigging on a 170cm boom and having the sail too "flat" or with 1cm of rope allowing the clew to slop around?
Seriously why wouldn't the sail manufacturers either add or remove a bit of sail cloth to make the specs even? Alternatively just lie about the specs and print on the sail accordingly. It's like me getting in my car and the manual saying that the optimum driving gear to be in is between 4th and 5th gear!!......

It's just another intellegence test Chinny.

But really, boom rigging lengths are not that rigid. They are always +/- a cm or three, and many sails stretch slightly over time with use.

And the same with luff lengths to some extent. I have examples in my own quiver where the same sail sets 10-15mm different downhaul on two different masts that are supposed to be (and actually test at) almost identical specs.

Why hasn't anyone made an extension with a rotating pulley block ?

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snides8 said..
The bloody ads that pop up just as I go to click on something in this forum

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snides8 said..
The bloody ads that pop up just as I go to click on something in this forum

+1

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Imax1 said..
Why hasn't anyone made an extension with a rotating pulley block ?

Brilliant ! Your an ideas man Imax

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sailquik said..

Mark _australia said..
Not having pulleys on extension line up with sail. Lets just have all sail tack fittings at 90deg like Severne do

Nah Mark. It's just an intelligence test on rope threading.

This is 90 Degree offset pulleys. I grant you that wave sail bases and sails may be another story.

Yes, but:
You have to learn a strange threading order that is not intuitive at all, so we have intermediates with busted backs, downhaul tools and still not enough downhaul etc until they learn it. (I'd been sailing about 20yrs before somebody told me how)
Also, if you have a mix of sails or suddenly rig that sail the other way up you will thread it worng - upside down to what you're used to its a nightmare.

If they line up its so easy and intuitive.

Now IMax has an even better idea!!!

Easier to put a swiveling pulley on the sail than the extension
Better would be for sail makers just to agree on which way they are gonna do it.

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Ben1973 said..
Easier to put a swiveling pulley on the sail than the extension
Better would be for sail makers just to agree on which way they are gonna do it.

The concept is great, but I fear the swivel would be a weak point.

Seat harnesses with a rigidly fixed spreader bar where it can't slide a bit to each side so you can twist your hips to face slightly forward.

Grrrr my new very expensive carbon boom that fills up with water as most do ,but has no way to drain out,went out today and I've pulled it apart tipped it every which way and it still has heaps in there sloshing around, should be a simple fix, I'll explain as briefly as I can and hopefully get advice before I attack it with a drill, so it's a large one with the tail piece that's outside fitting, the main piece has plugs in the end which are tight but not watertight, the tail piece has the adjustment holes on top not underneath like most booms and the end 300mm has no holes on top or underneath so there is no way for water to drain out, let alone quickly. My idea for simple fix is remove the end plugs in main section for good or maybe try to make them watertight , drill 10mm holes on the underside of the tail piece at the very rear , can anyone see a problem with this,I did not show photos as, apart from this issue it seems to be a very innovative and quality piece of kit and I don't want to trash the brand, but if an intermediate like me can zero in on this the first session out I'm wondering what happened to R&D. I reckon I was sailing with a 10 kg boom, had a s#*t sail and I couldn't work out why at the time, and the only reason it was in the water long enough to fill up is because I like to stop and have a rest and a swim on the local sand bar just to head off the inevitable comment "don't fall off and it won't fill with water " which is bound to come

Both my Severne enigma and alloy booms fill up. What's strange is how you have to get the water out. It's the front end that fill ups, if you pull the bottom end off and stand the boom front end up no water comes out, if you then rotate the boom clockwise One full revolution no water comes out, if you rotate it anti clockwise One full revolution the water pools out. Wait until it stops then repeat, turn clockwise nothing turn anti clockwise a load more comes out.