I have only foiled thru a jibe twice, 2 weeks ago.
Seems little difference between my stock 1220 and my kitewing 600.
Obvious...the 600 is going slightly faster to stay up, but it CAN go faster, so about the same.

I also find my plane out % the same whether I use 111 Isonic or my JP Wave 251 [78 liters].
Different wind, of course.

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marc5 said..
Opinions on which wing is easier to learn to jibe, i99 or i76? I mostly use the 99 because I go out in lighter winds, but it seems like the 99 is hard to turn on my Wizard 125. I haven't completed a jibe yet. And turning downwind doing S-turns I lose my stability. Thanks for any ideas.

I think the i76 is easier to gybe than the i99. I think the added speed helps

Also, in lighter winds when I use my 99, the sail flip is a bit more challenging

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marc5 said..
Opinions on which wing is easier to learn to jibe, i99 or i76? I mostly use the 99 because I go out in lighter winds, but it seems like the 99 is hard to turn on my Wizard 125. I haven't completed a jibe yet. And turning downwind doing S-turns I lose my stability. Thanks for any ideas.

I find as I slow down in the S turns or in a jibe things becomes less stable. But I have not used a wing as big as the i99. I also find widening the Arc (S turns and jibes) on light days with slower speeds feels more comfortable. Maybe someone could comment on the "ideal" Arc radius difference between a i99 and i76. If there actually is one.

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marc5 said..
Opinions on which wing is easier to learn to jibe, i99 or i76? I mostly use the 99 because I go out in lighter winds, but it seems like the 99 is hard to turn on my Wizard 125. I haven't completed a jibe yet. And turning downwind doing S-turns I lose my stability. Thanks for any ideas.

I think the i76 is easier to gybe than the i99. I think the added speed helps

Also, in lighter winds when I use my 99, the sail flip is a bit more challenging

Just to understand; Do you find the lighter wind sail flip more challenging because of a combination of sail size and getting backwinded? This is the case for me.

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Hess said..

thedoor said..

marc5 said..
Opinions on which wing is easier to learn to jibe, i99 or i76? I mostly use the 99 because I go out in lighter winds, but it seems like the 99 is hard to turn on my Wizard 125. I haven't completed a jibe yet. And turning downwind doing S-turns I lose my stability. Thanks for any ideas.

I think the i76 is easier to gybe than the i99. I think the added speed helps

Also, in lighter winds when I use my 99, the sail flip is a bit more challenging

Just to understand; Do you find the lighter wind sail flip more challenging because of a combination of sail size and getting backwinded? This is the case for me.

it's the getting back winded, so I had to learn to push the mast through the eye of the wind before flipping. Apparently racers do this. Someone on this forum gave me the tip, there is a video somewhere describing it

The other problem with lighter wind gybing is that that the rig weight needs to be counterbalanced with your body, so instead of just standing straight up on the front leg I have to arc my hips to the opposite side the rig is leaning.

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Hess said..

marc5 said..
Opinions on which wing is easier to learn to jibe, i99 or i76? I mostly use the 99 because I go out in lighter winds, but it seems like the 99 is hard to turn on my Wizard 125. I haven't completed a jibe yet. And turning downwind doing S-turns I lose my stability. Thanks for any ideas.

I find as I slow down in the S turns or in a jibe things becomes less stable. But I have not used a wing as big as the i99. I also find widening the Arc (S turns and jibes) on light days with slower speeds feels more comfortable. Maybe someone could comment on the "ideal" Arc radius difference between a i99 and i76. If there actually is one.

I don't think there is an ideal arc, but I reckon it will be bigger for the 99, because you are going slower. The 76 can handle a tight arc or a low drawn out arc because of its low stall speed.

the advantage of a tighter arc is that you will be through the unstable bit quickly

I know when I was learning to gybe I like to rail the board so that if I screwed up on back foot pressure, I would just turn tighter instead of breach (which is what would happen when the board was flat).

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thedoor said..

Hess said..

thedoor said..

marc5 said..
Opinions on which wing is easier to learn to jibe, i99 or i76? I mostly use the 99 because I go out in lighter winds, but it seems like the 99 is hard to turn on my Wizard 125. I haven't completed a jibe yet. And turning downwind doing S-turns I lose my stability. Thanks for any ideas.

I think the i76 is easier to gybe than the i99. I think the added speed helps

Also, in lighter winds when I use my 99, the sail flip is a bit more challenging

Just to understand; Do you find the lighter wind sail flip more challenging because of a combination of sail size and getting backwinded? This is the case for me.

it's the getting back winded, so I had to learn to push the mast through the eye of the wind before flipping. Apparently racers do this. Someone on this forum gave me the tip, there is a video somewhere describing it

The other problem with lighter wind gybing is that that the rig weight needs to be counterbalanced with your body, so instead of just standing straight up on the front leg I have to arc my hips to the opposite side the rig is leaning.

Thats what I figured. We are probably saying the same thing. I always tilt the mast to the outside of the Jibe. With bigger sails I just tilt it more and let the back wind pressure actually help flip the sail. Unless I am powered and the back pressure is gone.

Regarding the hip arc I don't think I have that much rhythm . I am usually pretty balanced over my feet trying to maintain height while applying steady pressure to carve the jibe. Now there are plenty of times I am having too much fun and not paying enough attention and end up dancing on the board to save the jibe.

The most dancing I do is during my gybes.

#3 of his foiling series.