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Ian K said..

tonyk said..

DarrylG said..
Heres a slalom jibe from a different angle :)
Trick here is to not hit the man with the camera
www.instagram.com/p/CKLpYdhn298/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Pure Class, thats why you can crank out the 25 alpha's at will

That's a step gybe. Is sailing away switch foot until settled just the more reliable option when on small sails?

I suppose the faster you're going the more tolerance there is of a temporary imbalance.

Go as fast as you can always

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Daithidmg said..
Nice thread, one other thing I'd add, particularly on bigger sails, is to gybe on the front of a gust where possible which helps reduce the backwinding as you run in front of the apparent wind.

For the foot change I find it easier to go for the rig flip first for the sub 6m no cam sails and and then foot change first for the larger / cammed sails.

Kind of confused about the jibe in front of the gust thing. I find the opposite in light air. I need to wait to stay in the middle of the gust. If I jibe at the front edge, I end up downwind in the slower air where I'm more likely to hit a wall of slower moving air.

Commit to the ... 'Rail' ? Wing!
www.facebook.com/william.huppertFRA330/photos/a.1527781890645408/4357629307660638/

Commit to the wing and spot your mark

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DarrylG said..

Commit to the wing and spot your mark

Your not trying hard enough if all your wing is in the water! NG does it better!!!!





(Personally, I'd be surprised if he made that gybe!)

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berowne said..

DarrylG said..

Commit to the wing and spot your mark

Your not trying hard enough if all your wing is in the water! NG does it better!!!!





(Personally, I'd be surprised if he made that gybe!)

Isn't that TG's gear?

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DarrylG said..

Commit to the wing and spot your mark

Very nice, you look super comfortable

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DarrylG said..

Commit to the wing and spot your mark

Fish eye view

So when do you flip the rig.
logic tells me it should be at or before you pass dead downwind but this is one of the clearest videos I've seen where the rider sails well past downwind before flipping.
www.instagram.com/reel/ChMTWVHI4W_/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

I assume apparent wind has a lot to do with the actual timing.
I'm getting better at judging the right moment and can now push through a back winded sail if I catch it early enough by pushing the back hand as I rotate the sail and lean it backwards towards the new downwind side of the board then rotate and reef it forward as fast as practical.
still finding the optimal time to flip is a challenge especially as I push for faster gybes. One day I'll get to do a lay down gybe again!

Reality

Goal. but on a foil!

#LifeGoal




Blocking the inside line!!

Nice example of flying lay down gybe!
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berowne said..
#LifeGoal




Blocking the inside line!!

looks like the falcon 144?

Great racing slalom gybe


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Virtual no loss of speed around the mark which is why both disciplines should be kept separate.

I've put some of my videos of gybing under a playlist.
Feel free to subscribe if you havn't already!

youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE42A5772D3CA26D2

Start here

So helpful, thanks!

Can you point us toward some video of real lightwind/big sail jibes? I'm about 50% now on flying through with sails 5.7 and smaller but with 8.5 I haven't any real sense of how to deal with timing to deal with the backwinding issues and almost always have to kill speed, set the board down and complete the switch or I'm getting blown off the back of the board or engaging in some other disaster.

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Awalkspoiled said..
So helpful, thanks!

Can you point us toward some video of real lightwind/big sail jibes? I'm about 50% now on flying through with sails 5.7 and smaller but with 8.5 I haven't any real sense of how to deal with timing to deal with the backwinding issues and almost always have to kill speed, set the board down and complete the switch or I'm getting blown off the back of the board or engaging in some other disaster.

The definitive video, imho. The key is letting the sail rotate around the back hand so the wind rotates the sail. If you don't move the sail enough to the outside of the turn and try to rotate it off the front hand you'll get blown straight off the board.

Another way to think of it (I'm sorry I forgot to whom I should credit for this inspiration), is that at low speed, you are actually tacking through because you are moving faster than the wind. You are really doing something akin to a helitack.

around 4:30

To add to light wind jibe question, how much are you adjusting turning radius?

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aeroegnr said..
To add to light wind jibe question, how much are you adjusting turning radius?

Light = tight (for me). You don't have as much energy so you need to complete the turn sooner. Versus a well powered jibe? maybe half the radius? Just a guess. But the feeling is that you are quickly going from one way to the other vs the long radius of a well-powered jibe. Make sure to end up off wind as that last bit of rounding up to a reach is a real power killer.

Thanks berowne, I was taught to put my rear foot all the way across the board before the gybe (Goya Bolt 135) like you mentioned, but have found that gives my rear foot too much leverage, so now place rear foot between centerline and rail (kinda behind inside screws of front foot strap) and that makes control of board side-to-side level easier, and also board height too. With rear foot all the way across on rail and front foot in strap my stance was wide and so harder to control body weight distribution.

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Paducah said..

Awalkspoiled said..
So helpful, thanks!

Can you point us toward some video of real lightwind/big sail jibes? I'm about 50% now on flying through with sails 5.7 and smaller but with 8.5 I haven't any real sense of how to deal with timing to deal with the backwinding issues and almost always have to kill speed, set the board down and complete the switch or I'm getting blown off the back of the board or engaging in some other disaster.

The definitive video, imho. The key is letting the sail rotate around the back hand so the wind rotates the sail. If you don't move the sail enough to the outside of the turn and try to rotate it off the front hand you'll get blown straight off the board.

Another way to think of it (I'm sorry I forgot to whom I should credit for this inspiration), is that at low speed, you are actually tacking through because you are moving faster than the wind. You are really doing something akin to a helitack.

around 4:30

I also think that video is the best one explaining how for gibe with big sails in light wind. I use his technique to push my 8.5 sail to overcome back wind. Gibing in light wind with a big cambered sail is SOOO much harder than in moderate to high wind with a small sail!

Found these high wind gybes on 7.0m sail and 400cm2 F4 front wing... :)


www.facebook.com/f4foilswindsurf/posts/pfbid022XZpvvNCSv8gT8T2mZn34y3Yj5La6M7Ly8aBvy6voedLBda1aAvCuF353vnU1bgbl

And some gybes on varied equipment...



And to the question at hand, some light wind gybes







There are more in my GYBE playlist but a bit spread out...
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE42A5772D3CA26D2

That last video - such economy of movement and checks all the boxes. Also took to about the third watch to realize that you'd kept up, no mean feat.

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Paducah said..
That last video - such economy of movement and checks all the boxes. Also took to about the third watch to realize that you'd kept up, no mean feat.

THA-1 is Will... went to PWA Japan last year. I bought the sails but it was not me! :(

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berowne said..

Paducah said..
That last video - such economy of movement and checks all the boxes. Also took to about the third watch to realize that you'd kept up, no mean feat.

THA-1 is Will... went to PWA Japan last year. I bought the sails but it was not me! :(

But you were taking the video? You had to be in the same neighborhood to get the footage was my thought. Foilers at that level go past me and there's a pronounced Doppler effect.

Actually that camera man was Boston on an eFoil.... cheating I know but damn he got good footage that day!

He's moving at a good clip! The only efoil I've seen out in windfoiling conditions was surprised that I could out run him. I was just freefoiling on an AFS F800 (now 1080) with a 5.4 iirc. Nice video of you two riding side by side.

Saw this jibe at 1:03 last night and I think the overhead view is pretty cool. I made a gif of it and below is the video itself. Shows how the sail is pivoting around the back hand, the extended arms and the sail moving across his body from inside to outside of turn.



Start at 1:03

Good shot from overhead. Nice gif conversion. some nice race gybes here.
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