anyone up there, been thru last day or 2?

gate open?

want to take fids for a surf next day or so

thx

No inland access anymore.
Should be plenty of beach by now - specially with really low tide in the morning

you coming for a surf vi?

The gate might be open, but only cos people keep ramming it down. The range is closed permanently, enter at your own risk, it is a live fire bombing range after all.

As of the day before yesterday, the gate is open. I've heard of people copping fines going through though.
Just take the beach, it's pretty good at the moment.

went to wedge and drove south

beach actually not that great, not bad thou

Must've been about as busy as it can get today with the weather/conditions I'd imagine.

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Legion said...

Must've been about as busy as it can get today with the weather/conditions I'd imagine.

Well where I was (a trip Nth) it wasn't anywhere near as bad as I expected it to be... - more crew than yesterday, but not so bad that it ruined the session. Not one drop in and only had to call two off...

As mentioned above the ranger is permanently closed now, Ranger seems pretty pissed about people ripping down the gate.

He started dishing out fines last Winter.

Just drive along the beach and stay on the beach side of the dunes and it is all happy days.

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vishy said...

Just drive along the beach and stay on the beach side of the dunes and it is all happy days.

Time to get a 4wd...

Glad he didnt see me up there a few weeks ago, the fence was wrecked already but when I went to open it, it fell apart
So I dragged it off to the side and went surfing, jeez it was good that day!!

I dont understand why when they are not live firing why we can access the beach from there?

Public liability.

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Legion said...

Public liability.

Access at your own risk I would have thought.

No way, it's not public land. The public were lucky to have ever been allowed access in the first place I reckon.

so its closed now because too many people found out about it, ruined the track camped illegally and left rubbish everywhere. good luck getting there on the beach after all the same clowns go thru without letting their tyres down

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surferstu said...

so its closed now because too many people found out about it, ruined the track camped illegally and left rubbish everywhere. good luck getting there on the beach after all the same clowns go thru without letting their tyres down

Funny thing is the last couple of times there has been bugger all people there.

maybe they dont want to get bogged or fined

Just out of interest if the ranger does spot you driving through the range can he pull you over or could you just keep driving pretending you havent seen him.

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davesrf said...

Just out of interest if the ranger does spot you driving through the range can he pull you over or could you just keep driving pretending you havent seen him.

Dunno but he chased some mates of mine a couple of months ago, very angry man from the sounds of things

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doggie said...

Legion said...

Public liability.

Access at your own risk I would have thought.

Some twits have a habit of camping in the navy impact area, I don't reckon camp fires and shallow buried 500 pounders mix??? Contrary to the opinion of self-styled experts that claim to know where all the bombs are buried, the Dept of Defence are regularly finding live ordnance all over the training area, including in areas they were not expecting to find anything. It really is a fkn dangerous place to hang out.

The training area also includes the beach and out to sea (yes they really can ban you from that bit of coast) but for the time being they are allowing access along the beach below the high tide mark when the range is not in use.

I am aware that the 'powers that be' are getting pissed with the constant damage to the gates and people going into the training area, I have it on good advice that people seeing the inside of a court room on either a federal or state trespass charge is a lot closer than people think.

If you are going to fence an area so people cant get in, fence it properly.
The gate and fence wouldnt keep out five year old kids, and we are talking guys with 4WDs and tools. If they were that woried about it wouldnt they have security there when the surf is good?

If your going to blow the ****e out of the country side with your rockets and guns, do it away from the population.

Population dynamics have changed, war is so 1942...

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If you are going to fence an area so people cant get in, fence it properly.
The gate and fence wouldnt keep out five year old kids, and we are talking guys with 4WDs and tools. If they were that woried about it wouldnt they have security there when the surf is good?

I don't reckon your front door would stop the average thief, is that grounds to go into your house without your permission?

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Torch said...

If your going to blow the ****e out of the country side with your rockets and guns, do it away from the population.

Population dynamics have changed, war is so 1942...

That's the Problem, they have changed significantly how they train to be much more aware of Public attitude and environmental awareness and all the greenie stuff. It's the stuff still on the range from '1942' that is causing the headaches.

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Chris6791 said...

doggie said...

If you are going to fence an area so people cant get in, fence it properly.
The gate and fence wouldnt keep out five year old kids, and we are talking guys with 4WDs and tools. If they were that woried about it wouldnt they have security there when the surf is good?

I don't reckon your front door would stop the average thief, is that grounds to go into your house without your permission?

So people are still going to give it shot regardless of how the police it.

Whether people choose to have a crack at going into the range is entirely up to the individual, we are all adults here (well maybe not bulldogpup, he carries on like a teen on heat sometimes ) and we make our own decisions. But the info
I have is straight from the Dept of Defence and is not idle pub gossip, people will end up getting charged with criminal damage and/or trespass if they keep ramming the gates and going into the range, it's now that simple, whether you like it or not.

Heck, I'd love to see the range stay open, it's only a ten minute drive from my house and has some greast coastline but I know public education has failed and enforcement with a big stick is coming.

Public education?

Why dont they just make a dedicated track for beach users? As I said in my PM to you Chris sometimes there is no beach to drive on, so then walking to the range is the only way.

The army/navy/airforce dont own the beach, this is localism to the max

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Chris6791 said...

doggie said...

If you are going to fence an area so people cant get in, fence it properly.
The gate and fence wouldnt keep out five year old kids, and we are talking guys with 4WDs and tools. If they were that woried about it wouldnt they have security there when the surf is good?

I don't reckon your front door would stop the average thief, is that grounds to go into your house without your permission?

pretty bad example, like comparing apples to oranges. Thief breaking into tax payers property compared to a tax payer breaking into ...err... tax payers property...?

Maybe not the best example (and it wasn't aimed at Doggie) but there is no legal difference between going through those gates (open or closed) and being found lurking in my backyard at 3am.

Please don't shoot the messenger guys, Doggie and I have been PM'ing over this all morning and I think we have both agreed to disagree but also see where each other is coming from. I'm just passing on credible info in the hope that my fellow Seabreeze buddies take it on board, do the righty and don't get themselves charged with trespass.

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doggie said...

The army/navy/airforce dont own the beach, this is localism to the max

Sorry doggie this is one point I disagree on, the defence guys and girls need somewhere to train so that when they get sent off to some war-ridden country they are well trained and have the best chance of coming home in one piece.

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Chris6791 said...

doggie said...

The army/navy/airforce dont own the beach, this is localism to the max

Sorry doggie this is one point I disagree on, the defence guys and girls need somewhere to train so that when they get sent off to some war-ridden country they are well trained and have the best chance of coming home in one piece.

MMM big state, lots of coastline that isnt used for anything.

I dont agree with sending troops into another country to fight for another country so the whole army/navy/airforce thing dosnt work with me, sorry Chris.