Anyone got any more info on this??

www.surfstitch.com/blog/all/introducing-the-new-modom-shark-leash.html

I know this is a passive system just wondering how it would compare to the active system using batteries in the tail pad or board?

Expensive magnet..

Check out the video of the tech in action on bull sharks
www.sharkbanz.com.au/
I reckon it seems pretty darn convincing.
Way less hassle then electronics too

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Ctngoodvibes said..
Check out the video of the tech in action on bull sharks
www.sharkbanz.com.au/
I reckon it seems pretty darn convincing.
Way less hassle then electronics too

Search you tube for the other vid of a shark tearing the thing to bits.

^^^
There's videos of sharks tearing Shark shields too bits as well. It's all about reducing risk. There are no guarantees. I'd feel more comfortable with one then without one. I'd have thought you would embrace these types of technology devices with your anti shark cull stance?

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Ctngoodvibes said..
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There's videos of sharks tearing Shark shields too bits as well. It's all about reducing risk. There are no guarantees. I'd feel more comfortable with one then without one. I'd have thought you would embrace these types of technology devices with your anti shark cull stance?

I agree people should look into options. The testing of these products is stupidly expensive as Dave as found.

I wish the governments would look at products closer and then provide the moneys to help get products that could help to market sooner rather than later .

Magnets?

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Ctngoodvibes said...
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There's videos of sharks tearing Shark shields too bits as well. It's all about reducing risk. There are no guarantees. I'd feel more comfortable with one then without one. I'd have thought you would embrace these types of technology devices with your anti shark cull stance?

Surfsafe yep. Magnets no.

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DARTH said..

Ctngoodvibes said..
Check out the video of the tech in action on bull sharks
www.sharkbanz.com.au/
I reckon it seems pretty darn convincing.
Way less hassle then electronics too

Search you tube for the other vid of a shark tearing the thing to bits.

That's it cheers poida

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Took 13 mins to take the bait?

Check this one out in regards electronic deterrents

www.heraldsun.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes

Same same but different. If anything they buy you a bit of time and that's it. But that decreases the risk and that's a good thing.
At least the magnet doesn't zap your balls when you wipe out!

I wish i had a design for the perfect Shark deterrent.

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I like the quote "There was no significant difference between the proportion of bait taken when the deterrent was turned off or on."

I think the data is from the following paper:
Huveneers C, Rogers PJ, Semmens JM, Beckmann C, Kock AA, et al. (2013) Effects of an Electric Field on White Sharks: In Situ Testing of an Electric Deterrent. PLoS ONE 8(5): e62730.

Perhaps I am getting grumpier as I age, but after spending 45 years surfing and 25 years working as a Uni/Govt. research scientist in fish physiology, I am very sceptical of shark deterrent devices and the marketing rhetoric that surrounds them.

PS: A nice simple review of the different shark deterrent devices by CHOICE can be found at:www.choice.com.au/health-and-body/diet-and-fitness/surfing-and-snowboarding/articles/shark-repellents-review

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Surf69 said..
I wish i had a design for the perfect Shark deterrent.

You and me both. Surfers are only a small part of the picture. The early research in this field was by Defence Departments to protect servicemen that ended up in the water from downed aircraft or sinking ships. A lot of money has been spent, with relatively little to show for it.

I think it needs some fresh young minds to develop potential solutions and robust experimental designs to test if they work or not. If a product or device was proven to work I dont think it would earn you a Nobel Prize, but you might get close!!

To reply to the magnets type repellents will not buy you any time
And choice have not done any independent testing and should on all these products
I have spent four years on this project probably dedicated more time and effort than any one trying provide a personal deterrent for surfers
There are no cheap solutions

I surfed a SW point this arvo with my son Jake knowing I have put the the best efforts in keeping us both safe with the rpela system which I have personally seen Repel white sharks

You can put one in that new one of mine Dave. I surfed by myself the other day and I gotta say I was probably more spooked than I've ever been, just didn't feel right. I've got a feeling the next couple of years are gonna get sketchy.

No worries mick I know the feeling I also just surfed solo on the south coast of nsw last week after talks with govt over there to help they seem a little more open to discussion
I'm not getting in to a debate with what products work and don't but I found that there is a lot more than just creating an magnetic field it's the shape and strength also frequency
Only time will tell with what's crap and what's not

there is still some value in a leggie for players that don't want their board routed with an electronic installation. would think that many will take the easiest option with no affect to the board or resale of the board. Heaps of guys a choosing nothing at moment most likely because of cost and installation. Modom leash at minimum is better than no protection and actually not sure I believe any of the hype from any of they sellers even though I have bought more than of both existing electronic systems

All fins plugs are routed in boards the same way and with the new sub plug it won't reduce your resale

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You can put one in that new one of mine Dave. I surfed by myself the other day and I gotta say I was probably more spooked than I've ever been, just didn't feel right. I've got a feeling the next couple of years are gonna get sketchy.

Yep early mornings have been iffy. I have been not so worried personally, but now really thinking of my family, i will be in next week also Dave with me new board

Ill call first..Incase you out surfing

Hope the link works check shark shield surf. I believe these are interchangeable between boards?
If you go into the water with no protection you are like many.
If you choose to use a protection device it may reduce the risk of encounters with GWS.
Like an insurance do you pay the premium or don't you!
I am waiting for my pre ordered S Shieled Surf.
CHOICE Is Yours!

I have been going to post this for a while but here goes.

I was one of the two guys that went to Ben Gerring and brought him ashore.

Having had a front row seat to a white pointer attack I understand that it is a reality in WA and doing nothing doesn't work.

I am posting this as there are a couple of things (if surfing WA) that you need to do if you want to change the odds of survival.

Not trying to be melodramatic but don't think it wont happen to you, it will happen again and you will need to be prepared whether you are the one attacked or assisting some one that has been.

1st you must carry a Tourniquet in the water with you I am using and giving all my mates and the guys I surf with around Mandurah one of these.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Rotate-Medical-Durable-Combat-Application-Tactical-Tourniquet-Military-Army

Don't think you will calmly take your leg rope and use that, trust me a shark attack is violence on steroids plus and it will be the last thing on your mind plus you will likely not get the tension and struggle to tie the leg rope off plus you will need both hands to carry out the rescue or if its you stay conscious.
Get a military style Tourniquet practice applying it to yourself to both arms and you are ready to go.
Any thing less than this you will almost certainly tragically die from loss of blood.

Losing a leg means you have 2 to 4 minutes to apply a Tourniquet after that your survival expectancydrops off rapidly.

Applying Tourniquet early is the game changer I cannot stress that enough its really no big deal to carry one.


2nd I have given plenty of thought to shark deterrent devices.

I know doing nothing doesn't work

I suggest talking to Dave at Katana and increase your knowledge so you can make an informed decision (I have no connection or inducement in any way to Dave or his product).

Just had Dave at Katana install a Surf Safe REPLA unit into my go to stick for local waves around Mandurah as I feel this will change the probability of an attack to myself.

Hope this helps

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IFocus said..
I have been going to post this for a while but here goes.

I was one of the two guys that went to Ben Gerring and brought him ashore.

Having had a front row seat to a white pointer attack I understand that it is a reality in WA and doing nothing doesn't work.

I am posting this as there are a couple of things (if surfing WA) that you need to do if you want to change the odds of survival.

Not trying to be melodramatic but don't think it wont happen to you, it will happen again and you will need to be prepared whether you are the one attacked or assisting some one that has been.

1st you must carry a Tourniquet in the water with you I am using and giving all my mates and the guys I surf with around Mandurah one of these.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Rotate-Medical-Durable-Combat-Application-Tactical-Tourniquet-Military-Army

Don't think you will calmly take your leg rope and use that, trust me a shark attack is violence on steroids plus and it will be the last thing on your mind plus you will likely not get the tension and struggle to tie the leg rope off plus you will need both hands to carry out the rescue or if its you stay conscious.
Get a military style Tourniquet practice applying it to yourself to both arms and you are ready to go.
Any thing less than this you will almost certainly tragically die from loss of blood.

Losing a leg means you have 2 to 4 minutes to apply a Tourniquet after that your survival expectancydrops off rapidly.

Applying Tourniquet early is the game changer I cannot stress that enough its really no big deal to carry one.


2nd I have given plenty of thought to shark deterrent devices.

I know doing nothing doesn't work

I suggest talking to Dave at Katana and increase your knowledge so you can make an informed decision (I have no connection or inducement in any way to Dave or his product).

Just had Dave at Katana install a Surf Safe REPLA unit into my go to stick for local waves around Mandurah as I feel this will change the probability of an attack to myself.

Hope this helps

I just ordered one, thanks as i didn't even really think to at least have one in my car.

I know there is also a leg rope version i saw some time ago that has a Tourniquet built in, that may also be an option.

This is one of them www.survivalsurf.com

Thanks for posting that, we tend to get complacent as an attack slips with time

Thanks for that Rod

Always thought a tie down would be good as a tourniquet as well as you can really tension it up.
Well done paddling out to Ben to mate.
Glad Rpella is helping you get back in the water...I've always been an advocate of the electronic deferent technology and I reckon Rpella has the edge on shark shield still in terms of a device which is not annoying to surf with.

the tourniquet is definetly going with us on all surf trips in and offshore and hopefully never have to use it
I also spoke with surfing WA and the clubies and all beach first aid kits now have them in the metro area
thanks for the post glen !

Great post iFocus. Hats off - you are a very brave and good man.

It's a diferrant world. You can adapt and make changes or just except the cards that you are delt. Personally I believe it's a responsibility for me as a dad who has two kids in the water with him most the time to make changes. I've used four diferant types of shark deterrents and will continue to use them in my kids boards and mine. The more ideas, information and experiences put forward help me to make informed choices. I never thought about about tournaquete before. it seems a good idea to be prepared. Thanks for the info.

Cheers guys

Beast your right its a different world to when I started surfing nearly 45 years ago, a couple of the dads on the beach that day struggled about their kids surfing in the future and all the what ifs.

Cannot stress about the torniquete enough.

Yeah haha the magnet, it's expensive as hell!

My mate bought this a Modom Shark Leash off SurfStitch last month.
www.surfstitch.com/modom-shark-leash-6ft-standard-black.html?gclid=CPLn44OGi88CFYKZvAodrxYL7g&gclsrc=aw.ds

Says it's pretty good but a bit on the pricier end.