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chrispychru
chrispychru
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19 Sep 2011 6:01pm
has anyone got a review or know anything about the mctavish origin8. i like the sound of it as seems to tick the boxes of what im after. im going to the factory on friday so would like a more honest view then the blog on there site
asea
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19 Sep 2011 6:07pm
isn't it a cut down version of the f/ball?
chrispychru
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19 Sep 2011 6:10pm
no. of the original but with a wider nose to ride
62mac
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19 Sep 2011 4:13pm
asea said...

isn't it a cut down version of the f/ball?


NO its not asea Chrispy,its a fantastic board mate,why because its a mctavish
Get that up ya Billboard

Chrispy,If you want a 8 foot board,have a VERY serious look at the UFO8,it will tick all your boxes and many more.

If you do go Friday, keep your grubby hands off my newie,I'll ask the guy's to lock it up


asea
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19 Sep 2011 6:21pm
just threw that in to see who's on the ball,good work team
Simondo
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19 Sep 2011 6:38pm
The 8Ball and Fireballs seem to be more popular, and more all round, than the Origin8 and Original....
chrispychru
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19 Sep 2011 6:55pm
Simondo said...

The 8Ball and Fireballs seem to be more popular, and more all round, than the Origin8 and Original....


popular is not what im looking for ill find out more when i go down there. description wise the origin8 i think is more what i want, ride the nose
Simondo
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19 Sep 2011 7:15pm
chrispychru said...

Simondo said...

The 8Ball and Fireballs seem to be more popular, and more all round, than the Origin8 and Original....


popular is not what im looking for ill find out more when i go down there. description wise the origin8 i think is more what i want, ride the nose


I agree, who care about Popular. I had an Original 9'1 for ages. Loved it. Creased her at Bells, and snapped her at Winki.

As the description goes, handles heavy beachies, and points... What more do you want! Yes, the slightly extreme tail and nose rocker prevents the nose dive. Get back on the tail early, and it keeps the nose up. You can drive of the McTavish Hips and long rails, then rock back and pivot off the other hip, as you roll into the cut back.

Go for the Origin8 if you like the sound of it... !!
chrispychru
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19 Sep 2011 7:18pm
hey simondo whats the deal with the beveled nose? and why would you say the 8ball is more alround,in what way?
billboard
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19 Sep 2011 7:33pm
The origin8 first went into commercial production when I was working for Mctavish - and it was basically an 8ft (ish) original. It was popular with some of the older/heavier crew who usually rode big mals and were wantlng a smaller travel board for overseas trips etc.
You really need to decide what you want a board like that for I guess - beachies/points/travel or what ? Like the original the board is great for beach breaks and reef breaks but I think that like the original it is a slow and lifeless board on a fatter wave or average point wave. If you want a heavily rockered midlength for suckier surf then the origin8 may well be the perfect board, but I can tell you from experience that a standard 8ball will handle anything that you can throw at it and is a much better allround board than the origin8 in that it paddles better, trims better, noserides better and is much much faster down the line and in smaller waves its head and shoulders better than the origin8.
When I worked at McT I used to surf Broken Head and the Rivermouth at Suffolk in some pretty heavy conditions, and many times I was the only one out on a longboard (eightball) with the shorties and not once did that board ever let me down - and it got me some respect at times from the local shortboard crew. No - I am not talking myself up - I am just making the point that an eightball at 8ft is the gem board and not the origin8 IMO.

If you are a true longboarder and looking for a smaller version of what you normally ride then you should stay as close as you can to the overall shape but drop your length to help you fit into different types of waves but still keep the "feel" that you are used to with your everyday board. A lot of longboarders used to think they wanted to be more of a shortboarder and they went to boards like the carver cos it kinda looked like a bigarst shortboard but was still 7 1/2 foot plus so it should still paddle and surf kinda like their mal WRONG - nothing surfs or feels like a mal, especially a carver ! sh#t don't get me started on the carver

Mate, before you buy a heavily rockered 8ft longboard come and try mine. No - I am not trying to push you onto a Laguna Bay but it will give you an idea of how that kind of board surfs and if its really what you want. If you cant demo an origin8 try to demo an 8ft eightball and then ride my Laguna and compare the difference and then if you love mine go ahead and order an origin8 if thats what you want. I predict though that you will buy an eightball after trying them all.

Bill
Simondo
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19 Sep 2011 7:37pm
Up at the nose, most McT High Performers have concave at the nose. The Original and Origin8 have a Belly Channel Zone, just forward of centre, which strips a tiny bit of foam out of the middle section, to give the mid section a flatter rocker, to increase paddle speed, etc. But the rails retain their rocker line, for turning.

Finally, most McT Boards (other than the traditional boards) have the bevels. Even my Rincon 68 has the trademark bevels.... They help the board roll over rail to rail. Stops the rails catching. One of Bob's best inventions.... Very handy for front footed surfers....

So when you are on one rail, and go for the cut back, or rail transition, you roll from rail & bevel, onto both bevels, then onto the other rail and bevel....
62mac
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19 Sep 2011 5:39pm
chrispychru said...

hey simondo whats the deal with the beveled nose? and why would you say the 8ball is more alround,in what way?


Chrispy,a while back I ordered the 8ball 8.2 and fireball 9.4 same spray to keep the grief low nah the wife doesn't care,both are alrounders.if you really want 8 foot of HP grunt go the UFO8 or noseriding 8 anything good luck but your a young pup,I've got more mct's in my shed than they have in the factory

But what would I know,nothing,shut up Billboard
Simondo
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19 Sep 2011 7:41pm
Good post BB!

62mac
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19 Sep 2011 5:41pm
billboard said...

The origin8 first went into commercial production when I was working for Mctavish - and it was basically an 8ft (ish) original. It was popular with some of the older/heavier crew who usually rode big mals and were wantlng a smaller travel board for overseas trips etc.
You really need to decide what you want a board like that for I guess - beachies/points/travel or what ? Like the original the board is great for beach breaks and reef breaks but I think that like the original it is a slow and lifeless board on a fatter wave or average point wave. If you want a heavily rockered midlength for suckier surf then the origin8 may well be the perfect board, but I can tell you from experience that a standard 8ball will handle anything that you can throw at it and is a much better allround board than the origin8 in that it paddles better, trims better, noserides better and is much much faster down the line and in smaller waves its head and shoulders better than the origin8.
When I worked at McT I used to surf Broken Head and the Rivermouth at Suffolk in some pretty heavy conditions, and many times I was the only one out on a longboard (eightball) with the shorties and not once did that board ever let me down - and it got me some respect at times from the local shortboard crew. No - I am not talking myself up - I am just making the point that an eightball at 8ft is the gem board and not the origin8 IMO.

If you are a true longboarder and looking for a smaller version of what you normally ride then you should stay as close as you can to the overall shape but drop your length to help you fit into different types of waves but still keep the "feel" that you are used to with your everyday board. A lot of longboarders used to think they wanted to be more of a shortboarder and they went to boards like the carver cos it kinda looked like a bigarst shortboard but was still 7 1/2 foot plus so it should still paddle and surf kinda like their mal WRONG - nothing surfs or feels like a mal, especially a carver ! sh#t don't get me started on the carver

Mate, before you buy a heavily rockered 8ft longboard come and try mine. No - I am not trying to push you onto a Laguna Bay but it will give you an idea of how that kind of board surfs and if its really what you want. If you cant demo an origin8 try to demo an 8ft eightball and then ride my Laguna and compare the difference and then if you love mine go ahead and order an origin8 if thats what you want. I predict though that you will buy an eightball after trying them all.

Bill


I need a drink
asea
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19 Sep 2011 7:42pm
Do the homework Chrispy as i'm after an 8ft'r as well
boofy
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19 Sep 2011 7:42pm
Hey Chrispy
if you decide you might get an 8ball I have one here used maybe 6 times its immaculate
8.2x21,3/4x3 black rails burnt orange yellow spray will sell it or swap it for 9.2 to 9.6 performance mal I am in Murwillumbah will be home Friday if ya wanna have a look
Cheers Boofy
62mac
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19 Sep 2011 5:42pm
asea said...

isn't it a cut down version of the f/ball?


Yah your right Bobs good at cutting a foot off things
62mac
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19 Sep 2011 5:46pm
boofy said...

Hey Chrispy
if you decide you might get an 8ball I have one here used maybe 6 times its immaculate
8.2x21,3/4x3 black rails burnt orange yellow spray will sell it or swap it for 9.2 to 9.6 performance mal I am in Murwillumbah will be home Friday if ya wanna have a look
Cheers Boofy


photos boofy or ya don't have it
Simondo
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19 Sep 2011 7:46pm
62mac said...

asea said...

isn't it a cut down version of the f/ball?


Yah your right Bobs good at cutting a foot off things


or two foot...
chrispychru
chrispychru
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19 Sep 2011 7:47pm
thanks so much bb this mal thing is all new to me,sb all my life. then ,long story finally got to be able to surf again...stoked. i am struggling on the mal,thought it would be easier to do than sb,am getting there though,just had to change my approach eg foot placement and things like that. not looking to get into heavy stuff yet,not fit enough nor good enough,not like riding a bike so what im after is something that is fairly loose,yet what i really want is to be able to do is ride the nose on it thanks for your opinion and would love to hear your thoughts. thanks bb
boofy
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19 Sep 2011 7:49pm
Chrispy you can try my 8ball if your keen on one as well do Mctavish still charge to demo boards?
Boof
billboard
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19 Sep 2011 7:50pm
Hey chrispy - a really simple way of explaining the channels and bevels on Mctavishs is: The bevels make the boards very very forgiving whilst not taking anything away from the performance of the boards (Bob and Steve Walden are the only shapers IMO to ever get this right) AND the channels in the belly of the original and orgin8 do, to a small degree add a slightly flatish area to the otherwise heavily rockered bottom and they also assist in noseriding and trimming on the original because that boards tends to side slip a bit as you get forward on the board (because of the rocker) and the channels keep it tracking a bit.

Oh - the dimensions of boofys eightball sound fantastic - would be perfect if you are maybe over 80kg (or way over)
boofy
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19 Sep 2011 7:52pm
62mac said...

boofy said...

Hey Chrispy
if you decide you might get an 8ball I have one here used maybe 6 times its immaculate
8.2x21,3/4x3 black rails burnt orange yellow spray will sell it or swap it for 9.2 to 9.6 performance mal I am in Murwillumbah will be home Friday if ya wanna have a look
Cheers Boofy


photos boofy or ya don't have it


Board Number 16341 I will put a photo of it up just for you Mac Doesnt Bob send you photos of each board as they are released I thought you were quality control
chrispychru
chrispychru
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19 Sep 2011 7:55pm
boofy said...

62mac said...

boofy said...

Hey Chrispy
if you decide you might get an 8ball I have one here used maybe 6 times its immaculate
8.2x21,3/4x3 black rails burnt orange yellow spray will sell it or swap it for 9.2 to 9.6 performance mal I am in Murwillumbah will be home Friday if ya wanna have a look
Cheers Boofy


photos boofy or ya don't have it


Board Number 16341 I will put a photo of it up just for you Mac Doesnt Bob send you photos of each board as they are released I thought you were quality control

classic mate. some pics would be great
boofy
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19 Sep 2011 7:57pm
chrispychru said...

thanks so much bb this mal thing is all new to me,sb all my life. then ,long story finally got to be able to surf again...stoked. i am struggling on the mal,thought it would be easier to do than sb,am getting there though,just had to change my approach eg foot placement and things like that. not looking to get into heavy stuff yet,not fit enough nor good enough,not like riding a bike so what im after is something that is fairly loose,yet what i really want is to be able to do is ride the nose on it thanks for your opinion and would love to hear your thoughts. thanks bb


Hey Chrispy
How heavy are you I am 92kgs every time I tried to go out on the nose of my 8ball it dug in and flipped I am a very ordinary surfer though
Boof
chrispychru
chrispychru
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19 Sep 2011 7:58pm
boof im 83 and shrinking
boofy
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19 Sep 2011 7:59pm
chrispychru said...

boofy said...

62mac said...

boofy said...

Hey Chrispy
if you decide you might get an 8ball I have one here used maybe 6 times its immaculate
8.2x21,3/4x3 black rails burnt orange yellow spray will sell it or swap it for 9.2 to 9.6 performance mal I am in Murwillumbah will be home Friday if ya wanna have a look
Cheers Boofy


photos boofy or ya don't have it


Board Number 16341 I will put a photo of it up just for you Mac Doesnt Bob send you photos of each board as they are released I thought you were quality control

classic mate. some pics would be great



I will take some pics now will take a while I am a very ordinary computer operater
chrispychru
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19 Sep 2011 8:02pm
thanks mate im waiting,and thanks again bb
boofy
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19 Sep 2011 8:24pm
Here ya go







62mac
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19 Sep 2011 6:34pm
boofy said...

62mac said...

boofy said...

Hey Chrispy
if you decide you might get an 8ball I have one here used maybe 6 times its immaculate
8.2x21,3/4x3 black rails burnt orange yellow spray will sell it or swap it for 9.2 to 9.6 performance mal I am in Murwillumbah will be home Friday if ya wanna have a look
Cheers Boofy


photos boofy or ya don't have it


Board Number 16341 I will put a photo of it up just for you Mac Doesnt Bob send you photos of each board as they are released I thought you were quality control


Mate he cant keep up with my lot
asea
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19 Sep 2011 8:36pm
Mac go get a Bundy up ya
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