The link I put up do really good titanium lined ones, I had one for years and wore the crap out of it, they are really thin and lite but as Tassie said warm.
The polar fleece ones are like those skins things that runners wear with an polar fleece type lining. I have a pair of shorts in these to keep the rashes away when surfing in boardies, they aren't super warm but they do warm you up.
Not sure about the ripcurl ones I'll google it and have a look
Edit.... How quick are you blokes on the posts tonight

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