laceys lane said...

some good points there.

trim = positioning

not to be under estimated

62mac said...



so please explain why my old 3 1/8 never bogged in and my 3 1/4 does,am I that sh-t of a surfer

billboard said...




Lacey - trim is EVERYTHING - especially on a big board. I surfed that spot this morning in very consistent small waves and I was very much aware of just how many times I moved my feet/toes/hips/upper body/arms/paddle on ever single wave just to achieve that perfect trim everywhere on the wave. The small days are when you have to get out and really explore every centimetre of your board and get to know how the board reacts to you being in different places on it so when the surf is up you will know just where you need to be to get the best out of your board. I am just starting to know my little starby intimately and as such am finally starting to surf it well, but you gotta be moving on your board, no matter whether it be a sup or mal CONSTANTLY. If you wanna groove you gotta move

billboard said...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

In my opinion if a longboard is catching rails then its most likely due to poor positioning on the board and/or the rocker being wrong. I guess it depends on what one classes as catching a rail. Personally in big surf I want a rail that grabs and holds (is that catching) or by catching do you guys mean "bogging" - if so its poor positioning and possibly the wrong type of board for the conditions. IMO of course.

Hey CMC jump in on this one - you know more about it than I do.

Next:

Mctavishs are expensive boards for retailers to buy (at wholesale price) and there isn't a huge margin in them for the retailer. As for their standardish retail price - well historically Mctavish don't tolerate their boards being discounted by retailers and as such the RRP is pretty standard Aus wide. I would imagine this is so the sales direct from factory aren't unduly affected by a rogue discounting retailer and it also ensures integrity of the brand and its perceived retail value (fully agree with this)

Next:

Do you buy from a shop or the factory ? tough question, and really depends I guess on how well you know your retailer and how good of a deal you get from them with your trade-ins. Dukes was a bit of an exception I think because Warwick and Mike really really knew their shiz and were very thorough with their placement of orders with the various factories on behalf of customers. In all honesty I believe that their trade in prices were fair but about $150 short of what the boards were worth if sold privately, but having said that, many people who traded on a regular basis at dukes were just happy to have a fairly standard trade in price and as such a standard changeover on their new board. (mainly certain dudes who could afford to drop a few $ on their old board)
In the current climate I personally would buy my Mctavish direct from the factory and sell my old board privately if the factory offered shiz money for it. If I was ordering a Mct custom I would either visit or phone and spead to Ben McT about the custom also. I have no idea what their trade in prices are like - I'd imagine not nearly as high as when BB worked there but ya never know.
As for people considering custom orders from any other brand - never be afraid to ring or visit and ask to speak to the shaper. Many boards, both long and short are now machine shaped nowdays and IMO thats a good thing, so if you have some dream of having your idol shaper knock a board up for you, you should do a bit of homework and find out how much actual handshaping that persons actually does because if 95% or their boards are machine shaped then you may not be getting the absolute best product out of them by demanding a "hand shape" IMO

Geez I can dribble on hey

what was the subject again ?

doggie said...

So I never catch rails on my 6,4 so does that mean I'm a good surfer?

smh said...



You must be.

smh said...

Why would you want to be someone else when you could just be you.
Good luck on the tour.

doggie said...
I am me, Im gonna rip it up smh you watch

doggie said...

doggie said...

chrispychru said...

no,he looks like he has just ridden a horse from WA to QLD

billboard said...



No - he looks like HE'S been ridden from WA to QLD