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LilD
LilD

NSW

17 posts

30 Oct 2013 7:59pm
Afternoon All

New to forum. Moving from a shortie to a longie. I am 75kg 175cm and looking to surf 2ft beach breaks on a single fin one board quiver. First question, will a 9ft board be big enough and what difference would a 9ft 2 make to my turning?
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

30 Oct 2013 5:15pm
Welcome mate @ your weight 9 is fine but go a one plus two setup
chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

30 Oct 2013 5:19pm
Enjoy the ultimate small wave board. If you are going for a single stick with it. Imo I would rather a thruster setup than a 2+1,,,that's just me though,if I want loose and drive you can't beat it
surfbroker
surfbroker

NSW

1489 posts

30 Oct 2013 8:41pm
I'm with the others..leave the single fins for nice point waves..go foe 2+2 set up.
surfbroker
surfbroker

NSW

1489 posts

30 Oct 2013 8:42pm
I'm with the others..leave the single fins for nice point waves..go for 2+1 set up.
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

30 Oct 2013 5:44pm
Drop an 8 inch rear in and if will give you more drive than a v8. But you have to be a power surfer off the tail to pull it off
warwickl
warwickl

NSW

2357 posts

30 Oct 2013 9:00pm
I have 2 so called 9' 1" boards ie a McTavish Evo 2 and a Custom Pieter.

One is 9' and the other 9' 1.5" both very different boards but I like both.
chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

30 Oct 2013 6:01pm
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warwickl said...
I have 2 so called 9' 1" boards ie a McTavish Evo 2 and a Custom Pieter.

One is 9' and the other 9' 1.5" both very different boards but I like both.


Why and how?
warwickl
warwickl

NSW

2357 posts

30 Oct 2013 9:23pm
Okay Christy I am a bit at a loose end atm.

The 9 is the McTavish which has more rocker but less refined rails, more pin tail and for me as not young (may be older than u) so decided on a local custom to help catch waves a little easier. But as my other post ended up with an injury which u offered very constructive advice.

I have only been back into prone paddling in the last 18 months so need time.

Any typos r due to trying to use my new Tablet
chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

30 Oct 2013 6:33pm
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warwickl said...
Okay Christy I am a bit at a loose end atm.

The 9 is the McTavish which has more rocker but less refined rails, more pin tail and for me as not young (may be older than u) so decided on a local custom to help catch waves a little easier. But as my other post ended up with an injury which u offered very constructive advice.

I have only been back into prone paddling in the last 18 months so need time.

Any typos r due to trying to use my new Tablet


I just wanted to know what the differences were in your boards. My hp longboard has more rocker than what most people have in their shorty these days. Was just interested in the differences
Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

30 Oct 2013 10:27pm
^ At 75 kegs, you can ride a 9'0 with quite fine rails, and low volume...

Me;
I'm going to ride my EvoII more... I think I have ridden 1 or 2 times since returning from the Maldives, over 1 year ago! Such a great board, but I have off on a tangent, ridding the 9'6 Pintail Single Fin in all conditions... all locations...

The EvoII is a better board at waist high, to head high. More responsive, and tighter turning archs, etc.
But at Knee high, and Overhead, the Occasional Pin is better. In small surf, the semi-traditional aspects of the 9'6 provide better glide, and in the bigger stuff, the extra length gives better paddle-in speed, and the pin gives better hold... Single fin gives better top end speed...

Both boards are unreal, and never to be sold...
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

30 Oct 2013 7:30pm
Maybe you have to be strong to rip with an 8
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

31 Oct 2013 12:04am
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LilD said..

Afternoon All

New to forum. Moving from a shortie to a longie. I am 75kg 175cm and looking to surf 2ft beach breaks on a single fin one board quiver. First question, will a 9ft board be big enough and what difference would a 9ft 2 make to my turning?



Welcome to the greenroom......at yr weight a 2 inch diff will make absolutely no real difference at all. The width and thickness and outline etc will have a substantially greater impact. A 9 footer single fin in 2 ft beachies will be pretty dull to be honest if you are coming off a shortie - unless its those nice silky smooth long running A-Frames. On a point break will be a truckload of fun. For a beachie and at yr weight I would suggest you look for a more HP type setup = more fins, some rocker and more refined rails. You will paddle it a piece of cake and have ease of turning and ability to generate speed more readily. Alternatively get yourself a nice short fat board and go forth and dominate

Where are you based? Do you know anyone with a long board that you could have a crack on first before spending yr hard earned?
chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

31 Oct 2013 5:19am




LilD
LilD

NSW

17 posts

31 Oct 2013 8:25am
Thanks for input. In answer to the q's i live in the Newcastle area so beach breaks are the go. Love the old skool look of a single but from the sounds of what u guys r saying it i wont be able to turn it and be forced to go straight down the line.?

What about changing fsingle fin types or will that make neggligible difference
smh
smh

smh

NSW

7269 posts

31 Oct 2013 2:11pm
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chrispy said..







What a great pic. Where did she get the speed to throw it up that high ?
LilD I wouldnt get a heavy single fin log for your first 9 footer. They are not easy to ride and take a bit of time to master. You would be better off with a standard modern 9 footer wether it be a single or three fin set up. You'll enjoy it a whole lot more.
LilD
LilD

NSW

17 posts

31 Oct 2013 2:16pm
Thanks SMH. I was thinking about a McT (i figure everyone rides them so they must be doing something right) Involvment or Redline. To loggy? Should I lean towards a Fireball or Pinnacle?
stuk
stuk

NSW

894 posts

31 Oct 2013 3:19pm
Since your in Newy why not call into Pacific Dreams in Darby St or Surf Factory at Islington and have a yarn there. At the surf factory you have Mick Byrnes and Sam Egan with years of experience about the local conditions.

I surfed a handshape by Sam for years in the Newy beach breaks, it had a fair amount of rocker and a 2 plus 1 fin set up. I'm now up the coast and only surf a right hand point so went for a Mct Fireball which suits that type of wave better.
smh
smh

smh

NSW

7269 posts

31 Oct 2013 4:20pm
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LilD said..

Thanks SMH. I was thinking about a McT (i figure everyone rides them so they must be doing something right) Involvment or Redline. To loggy? Should I lean towards a Fireball or Pinnacle?


An Involvement would be loggy as you describe. A redline has a harder edge around the tail and would be more versatile than a log. A Fireball, Fireball EVO 2 or even a Ray Gleave model would be a good choice if you have your heart set on a McTavish board. As Stuk said you have a few options within your area as well and the guys he mentions are no slouches . Whatever you get we will want to see some pics.
SP
SP

SP

10982 posts

31 Oct 2013 3:21pm
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stuk said..

Since your in Newy why not call into Pacific Dreams in Darby St or Surf Factory at Islington and have a yarn there. At the surf factory you have Mick Byrnes and Sam Egan with years of experience about the local conditions.

I surfed a handshape by Sam for years in the Newy beach breaks, it had a fair amount of rocker and a 2 plus 1 fin set up. I'm now up the coast and only surf a right hand point so went for a Mct Fireball which suits that type of wave better.


Good advice Stu, plenty of good shapers around town.
Sheely and Pieter are also worth talking to.
LilD
LilD

NSW

17 posts

31 Oct 2013 9:11pm
Not a bad idea. I got McCabe to make me a shortie a while ago. Might see if he or Pieter can make me sometjing special.

stuk
stuk

NSW

894 posts

1 Nov 2013 1:54pm
Just be careful getting a short board maker who doesn't do a lot of longboards.
TDog
TDog

QLD

67 posts

1 Nov 2013 2:12pm
I made the recent transition from shortboard to longboard too and agree with others here.

At your weight and height a 9' would be good you could probably go 2 5/8 and 22 3/4. A bit more rocker for beachies with 2+1 set up. The narrower (22 3/4 or so maybe even 22 5/8) will be good for turning which you'll like. These dims should be big enough for you to get up on the nose too. Just run your thoughts by a good longboard shaper.

If you really get into it you can scale up length, thickness and width a bit (and address other factors like rails/rocker, fin) for a smaller wave noserider. That's my plan.

I'm 85 kg and 183 cm and went with 9.1 x 2 7/8 x 22 3/4 and am loving it
MickPC
MickPC

8266 posts

1 Nov 2013 3:25pm
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62mac said..

Welcome mate @ your weight 9 is fine but go a one plus two setup



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LilD
LilD

NSW

17 posts

1 Nov 2013 6:53pm
2+1 it is. Having a look at the shapers fins website it seems like the difference between the centre fin and side fins is really very small. Are most guys still running a big centre fin or r they trending towards a smaller centre fin to give a more thruster like feel.?
chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

1 Nov 2013 4:15pm
Mate screw the 2+1 idea. Don't listen to them old goats. They have never surfed a longboard with a thruster setup,so how can they give a opinion? For the beachies and being a very very average surfer my set up gives heaps of drive and is way loose when it's small,when it gets good and bigger I run Shapers am2. Small I run Jackson close with a shark fin,or the rear fin from the merricks.....you will not regret it



weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

1 Nov 2013 6:18pm
she is a hi-performance board that one of chrispys with heaps of rocker
weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

1 Nov 2013 6:24pm
i mean nice continuos rocker with an aggressive tail rocker and thats the hi-performance part right there
SP
SP

SP

10982 posts

1 Nov 2013 4:42pm
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chrispy said..

Mate screw the 2+1 idea. Don't listen to them old goats. They have never surfed a longboard with a thruster setup,so how can they give a opinion? For the beachies and being a very very average surfer my set up gives heaps of drive and is way loose when it's small,when it gets good and bigger I run Shapers am2. Small I run Jackson close with a shark fin,or the rear fin from the merricks.....you will not regret it





centre to centre measurement please....

I have been running the Julian Wilson fins all round lately. They are a little bit smaller than the Jackson close ones.
weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

1 Nov 2013 6:46pm
these are a bigger fin SP about the same as chrispys fronts




TDog
TDog

QLD

67 posts

1 Nov 2013 6:59pm
Yep, OK Chrispy would know what's good for beachies. Interesting set up.
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