Cobra said..
Ok I will play with this one,, I think the golden rule here is in LISTENING TO YOUR SHAPER.
i could say going to a shaping bay, is like going to a brothel .
Just because you go there a lot dont mean your good at it

vanders1 said..
I love having guys in the water around me surfing boards with too little volume, more waves for me.

Locky24 said...


Thats what happens when too many people take advice from the local 16 yo shreader that works at the local board store.

chrispy said..




Or listens to all the board experts in the carpark.... Never shaped a board in their lives,I catch way more waves than them.......and they still want to tell me I'm riding the wrong board

Tractorguy said..
Everyones all over this but IMO Yeh it is when your 3 digits in weight and 6' 3 the extra volume /weight helps with entry speed. If your surfin points and you have a touch more time and you have a need for speed the more the better. You surfin challenging beach break then less volume through the tail , square/pin depending off your taste, square for me, and a bit lighter all over. same length. each to their own anyways eh.

vanders1 said..




Yeah the last conversation I had with the shaper resulted in him suggesting I don't reduce the volume as much as what I was suggesting, who am I to argue.........

thedrip said..
Bit of it anyway. She Who Must Be Obeyed was pretty happy. Only another 32 in the shed to go.

Macaha said...


Guilty of been a carpark expert venue was the coffee club and if I recall the conversation we were discussing a more HP board than your current Whalebone.
A couple questions
When was the last time the shapers saw you surf?
Your a hell of a lot lighter than you were when your current WB was made for you?
Whats the difference in volume and dims between your HL verses the HL?
Vanders time to go wild IMHO

I know you love your Whalebone but your a totally different guy than you were back then.
Your a tall bugger908 x ? x ? would be a good start and as I said pull the tail in as well as the nose.
I'd be happy if SDR named this new model The Fang Machine

Expert advise maybe not but those questions need to be asked.

Macaha said..
Chrispy sometimes you have to put your hand up

I await a reply

Ted the Kiwi said...


Sounds like you need to do a quiver shot for us

Macaha said..






Guilty of been a carpark expert venue was the coffee club and if I recall the conversation we were discussing a more HP board than your current Whalebone.
A couple questions
When was the last time the shapers saw you surf? Probably over a year but Macca filled him in on my style.
Your a hell of a lot lighter than you were when your current WB was made for you? True but to be honest I'm not feeling like the current one is restricting me and given current circumstances allow me to surf only once a week if I'm lucky I enjoy the easy paddle and wave catching ability the extra volume provides.
Whats the difference in volume and dims between your HL verses the HL? Significantly thinned rails, 1/4" narrower, 1/4" thinner, updated concaves.
Vanders time to go wild IMHO As discussed over coffee, small changes at a time.

I know you love your Whalebone but your a totally different guy than you were back then.
Your a tall bugger908 x ? x ? would be a good start and as I said pull the tail in as well as the nose. After riding my 9'6 the other day then changing to the 10' hotlog it just felt right length wise. Maybe I'll road test your 9'8 and see how it feels.
I'd be happy if SDR named this new model The Fang Machine Where did that come from?????

Expert advise maybe not but those questions need to be asked.

Macaha said..
Maybe the alley dose not pack the same punch weight for weight
Different tide,swell angle blah blahOr just maybe you surfed sh-t
for once

Simondo said..
I've got nothing to add!
You guys have it sorted!

Simondo said..
I've got nothing to add!
You guys have it sorted!

Macaha said..
Thanks mate I was interested of how you see and feel it with your boards.

On the fang thing I just made that up, Fang as in fly

vanders1 said...



Ok gotcha on the 'fang' now

Regarding boards, honestly I think there is still so much work I need to do in regards to technique, Lacey has been great with tips and assistance (don't tell him I said that), I guess it's easier to focus on modifying my technique when I'm on a board that I'm totally comfortable on, I can just focus on the changes I need to make and not have to deal with the challenges of a board that doesn't give you that 'fits like a glove feel'. Once I can get a handle on better technique I reckon the benefits of what you're suggesting will become more apparent and likely useable. Just my thoughts.

Wait, so what your saying is focus on the technique instead of the board. Thats not consistent with this room.