Can't someone just do it as an App? I'd rather lay on my couch and play.

I'm with Husq...........passle damit paddle to quote some notable paddler......

who is blowing whos horn........

I'm scared to post now

Lacey your like me mate out in the water unlike some of those longboard forum guys

poeple? as in the SB cronnies.....haha classic. So how many SUP specific training devices are out there, how many of them are good, how many of them have made a finacial return for the money spent developing them. SUP has one thing going for it as far as business goes, that is it seems to attract the type of people that are always chasing the next best thing....kinda like golf or fishing. How much of that equipment actually accounts for a real performance improvemnt, and what % is that if the total active SUP community?

Do you see clubbies using tranning gadets, or OC paddlers, sure they may swim and weight train, but that is simple proven methods.

But hey no one gets out there more than you...blow away

true, alot of those "pushies" are worth more than my car

SP said...

I think you'll find all.. All... elite athletes use computer training devices in some way... Ever seen inside the AIS....

And could it just not be for fun or is that a foreign concept and not allowed...

Now this topic has made me

when you say computer training devices do you mean the likes of VO2 machines etc for testing, or electronic devices for training??? I think you will find plenty of top pro athletes not using electronics, and even those that are wouldnt be doing it more than 10%. lets look at similar sports to SUP, say surf lifesaving events do they do much electronice machine training?

the testing part would be valid i think. any type of machine like proposed would cost a bundle. but hey i was wondering about the scope of performance and if anyone could add to it

husq2100 said...

poeple? as in the SB cronnies.....haha classic. So how many SUP specific training devices are out there, how many of them are good, how many of them have made a finacial return for the money spent developing them. SUP has one thing going for it as far as business goes, that is it seems to attract the type of people that are always chasing the next best thing....kinda like golf or fishing. How much of that equipment actually accounts for a real performance improvemnt, and what % is that if the total active SUP community?

Do you see clubbies using tranning gadets, or OC paddlers, sure they may swim and weight train, but that is simple proven methods.

But hey no one gets out there more than you...blow away

hey husqie boy, most of the best paddlers on the goldie are training with some kind of sup training equipment. thank god your vast knowledge of dw ing and all things paddling that they are idiots and you have got it right.

husq2100 said...

laceys lane said...
hey husqie boy, most of the best paddlers on the goldie are training with some kind of sup training equipment. thank god your vast knowledge of dw ing and all things paddling that they are idiots and you have got it right.

Care to name names, or at least rankings and what devices they are using?

no i don't. look through the breeze archives. ero sup, paddle power trainer i think and one guy who works off shore uses a rowing machine plus sup converter.

it a supplements their training. its not a replacement. i have seen one next tier down paddler from the top level improve a hell of a lot use the trainer.

at this stage i prefer on water

These computer things have been around for a while.

www.ocpaddler.com/game


On a serious note, I read Laceys post and thought, wow how good would that be if technology could be so unreal that you could actually do a run somewhere like Maliko and they could replicate the conditions, scenery etc, bits to watch out for etc etc.

I watched a doco on Casey Stoner who was playing Xbox to learn new tracks. Could this not be the oceanic equivalent? Does it have to be a conspiracy to sell something?? Maybe for the normal person who may never get to do a Maliko run it could be the closest you'd get. Hell I love driving Bathurst and I've never even been near it.

CMC said...

These computer things have been around for a while.

www.ocpaddler.com/game


On a serious note, I read Laceys post and thought, wow how good would that be if technology could be so unreal that you could actually do a run somewhere like Maliko and they could replicate the conditions, scenery etc, bits to watch out for etc etc.

I watched a doco on Casey Stoner who was playing Xbox to learn new tracks. Could this not be the oceanic equivalent? Does it have to be a conspiracy to sell something?? Maybe for the normal person who may never get to do a Maliko run it could be the closest you'd get. Hell I love driving Bathurst and I've never even been near it.

My postings have nothing to do with $$$, except for adding the facts that some using them are affiliated commercially with said aids. I just dont see this as a real advantage to training for something so specific as DW. Flat water traing I feel the aids may be of bigger benefit. As far as computer games for training, well it may work, but playing a bike game or car game is COMPLETLY different to racing those in the real world. Seat and track time will not be beaten. I dont see how knowing the sceneary for say a Moliki run will be any benefit, and no machine is going to close to the real thing without $$$$millions spent developing it. Once again SUP and its end users are to small for that ATM. Oh and the reason sports use machines and simulators is mostly due to $$$ and time, not that it is better than the real thing

Fun is another thing though, what ever floats your boat. But id rather be on/in the real ocean with its sounds and smells than simulated, and yes weather or other things can keep you away for a time or 2, but that just drives the passion to get out there....

husq2100 said...

CMC said...

These computer things have been around for a while.

www.ocpaddler.com/game


On a serious note, I read Laceys post and thought, wow how good would that be if technology could be so unreal that you could actually do a run somewhere like Maliko and they could replicate the conditions, scenery etc, bits to watch out for etc etc.

I watched a doco on Casey Stoner who was playing Xbox to learn new tracks. Could this not be the oceanic equivalent? Does it have to be a conspiracy to sell something?? Maybe for the normal person who may never get to do a Maliko run it could be the closest you'd get. Hell I love driving Bathurst and I've never even been near it.

My postings have nothing to do with $$$, except for adding the facts that some using them are affiliated commercially with said aids. I just dont see this as a real advantage to training for something so specific as DW. Flat water traing I feel the aids may be of bigger benefit. As far as computer games for training, well it may work, but playing a bike game or car game is COMPLETLY different to racing those in the real world. Seat and track time will not be beaten. I dont see how knowing the sceneary for say a Moliki run will be any benefit, and no machine is going to close to the real thing without $$$$millions spent developing it. Once again SUP and its end users are to small for that ATM. Oh and the reason sports use machines and simulators is mostly due to $$$ and time, not that it is better than the real thing

Fun is another thing though, what ever floats your boat. But id rather be on/in the real ocean with its sounds and smells than simulated, and yes weather or other things can keep you away for a time or 2, but that just drives the passion to get out there....

husq, you have gone way to hard. it was a post for discussion and any ideas. some people just can't get there on the water. one of australia's best oc1 paddlers works off shore. he trains on a machine and still places if not wins.

it's not my place to personally names these people and neither is it yours

no one is suggesting you could replace the real thing.

you effective killed the whole topic with your usual barge ass posting style.

but you and i know why you target me and a few others. mate you really need to get over it or man up and confront the issue and the person imo.

i'm so over you sweating on me for attacks. i don't go chasing you. its like i've got a online stalker or something.

why don't you stay your side of the forum and i'll stay on mine please

Lacey you have to be joking or you really need a clue, I would say anything I have said here in person to you or others. You know this, so do others I have talked to. If you think this is about DC then you are very missguided and I do wonder how you join the two together....Clearly youhavent got over that....I stated my opinion, a little tongue in cheek, but still how I feel. I have gone on to explain why I feel to "get out there" is more important. As far as naming names, that is the biggest joke mate, you are taking all this SUP/SB stuff way to serious....you must be putting yourself and others importance at some great level if you think the names I mentioned is secret stuff or going to leak some special secret training system. Paul and Ange have openingly posted on here and FB about SUP Ergo and Kelly himself posted about His Power Paddler Trainer.

As far as killing the topic, if people wanted to chat about it they would, I dont think they give a rats arse about what my opinon is, and me being in a topic would not stop them. Some add and some just want to read.... You are the one that made it person, you are the one taking it personal....and not the first time either. I have seen more than one thread not go your way and you pack up your bat and ball and threaten to leave. Btw, look at the green thumbs on the first 2 responses...I think some of the people have spoken.

What bugs me is seeing some of the crap on here getting talked up and made way more than it is in reality. Some dont seem to realise that SB is a stretch from reaility and it is bloody funny to see the real deal out on the water....IMO its the Self promoters with the most to loose becasue the spot light doesnt shine in one place for very long.....you guys just want to show the roses in life, but they dont grow without a little ****

Its a forum mate, post on it all you want, but you know that it is going to be read by many and commented on by some...NOT ALL ARE GOING TO AGREE WITH YOU OR BLOW SMOKE UP YOUR ARSE!

Its all Lame to me