They still shipping new foils without nuts/bolts? Baffling.... such a simple and little cost to manufacturer...but stuff around for the customer....

Yes Steve,

My first Naish purchase of any kind. And it starts off negative, because of a couple dollars tops.

The dealer is kindly sending them to me at no charge.

Not sure if the dealer is eating that cost or if the bolts were supposed to be in the box. They weren't there.

I actually ordered additional plate bolts when I bought the Naish, just in case they didnt come with plate bolts.

But I didnt know Naish has different size plate bolts than everyone else.

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exiled said..
the hope was that a wing with an extra 10% of surface area might be enough to make the difference.

I think BigSeppo is right. 10% more will not be a big enough difference, especially if you have already a hard time flying on 10 seconds period waves. And you are right, with technique, you will be able to use smaller wings, but as for SUP boards, too big is much better than too small for learning.

Oh well, guess I'll just have to wait patiently then. Fortunately winter swell season is just around the corner and my foil will probably be stashed for a while anyway.

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BigSeppo said..
Yes Steve,

My first Naish purchase of any kind. And it starts off negative, because of a couple dollars tops.

The dealer is kindly sending them to me at no charge.

Not sure if the dealer is eating that cost or if the bolts were supposed to be in the box. They weren't there.

I actually ordered additional plate bolts when I bought the Naish, just in case they didnt come with plate bolts.

But I didnt know Naish has different size plate bolts than everyone else.

Same with my slingshot. So much excitement and anticipation....then poop. Have to research and source. For products well over $1000 it's pretty poor.....all brands all round by the sounds. Have a stock pile now....for anticipated short changing on future foil purchases....

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stevet73 said..

Have a stock pile now....for anticipated short changing on future foil purchases....

Naish
M6 Stainless-Steel Flat Head Phillips (PH3) Metric
I buy them by the packet of 4 or 6 because the electric drill I use to assemble/disassemble chews the heads.
It seems that on the Northern Beaches of Sydney different shops have different lengths.

Take a nut and or bolt to the shop to confirm the thread on the special plate set up to do that job.

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makesurf said..
M6 Stainless-Steel Flat Head Phillips (PH3) Metric

Do yourself a favor and only buy Torx heads, or at leash hexagonal ones. You will chew the heads of Pozidriv or even worse the Phillips.

Colas, how long till Gong has their larger wings out?

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Colas, how long till Gong has their larger wings out?

Patrice just said "soon" in his forum post: www.gong-galaxy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=130535

As a total guess from my part, it usually mean around 3 months time from now.

These new wings (90 and 100cm) will need a new dedicated reinforced fuselage. They will have the same thickness and chord than the current 80cm, but larger wingspan and foil camber. The design goal was to have something usable in very weak waves, buy pumpable and turnable.

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colas said..
Patrice just said "soon" in his forum post

And he added yesterday: "Before Xmas" ... so about 3 months.

Have just ordered a Gong Allvator 80cm foil after trying a 70cm Allvator behind a boat. Thanks for the link Colas. Good to get some positive reports before it arrives.

Had my first session in proper waves on the allvator 80 - i flew first attempt down the line. So stoked.

Just out of curiosity, what was the all up cost including shipping to oz? I have a gong sup after a few years in france and they are very good quality....I suspect the foil is the same.

Be insightful/scary to see what the big boys are paying for their raw foil cost vs what they are charging us punters....

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stevet73 said..
Just out of curiosity, what was the all up cost including shipping to oz?

Gong told me that shipping is about 100 euros for a foil to US or OZ. Just mail them at info@gongsup.com if you want more details.

Thanks colas.