Congrats .. looks great

I have been having so much fun on my Harpoon, same dimensions as yours.

Not just the DW thing, but the flat water paddle up is so easy on it, and on small wave days, its a wave catching machine where you can be up and flying on the hint of a wave ... even if its not even close to breaking.

Turns a flat day into ridiculous fun.

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kobo said..
Look good ! How much do you weigh ? And are you going to use 1125/60/KD 13 tail. Keep us posted on what you find.

Im about 80 kgs atm. That photo is the 1525HA and the rear tail is a crisp 381.

I will let you know how it goes??

Sweet looking rig , keep
us posted .

Hey Piros, what was your thinking on going 1300 v 1310 front foil.
Obviously you can get going pretty easily so even though the 1300 seems to have a higher stall speed it doesn't seem to be a problem!

The 1300 is heaps for me and I can't wait to drop down . Haven't tried the 1310 but to me the 1300 is slow so can only guess the 1310 will be slower , I'll see if I can borrow one . I'm probably not right guy to ask as I used to really small foils on my prone and wing . Just not used to these Jumbo wings . The 1300 has a crazy low stall speed it's not a HPS wing at all .

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cct305 said..
Would a narrow long sup board like this work well in locations that don't have long period swell but are more wind swell driven short period waves?

For folks sup foiling in non-maui or Aussie/NZ conditions, feedback appreciated.

Works perfectly - have used my 8'2 x 20 110L in Langebaan Lagoon and on our Milnerton run both of which have zero fetch starts. Lagoon chop is very close together and steeper - in those conditions the boards just launch by themselves.

I have a 7'10 x 19.5 and mainly use it in wind swell and short chop. It works really well in those conditions, I won't go back to riding anything else.

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kobo said..
Look good ! How much do you weigh ? And are you going to use 1125/60/KD 13 tail. Keep us posted on what you find.

Im about 80 kgs atm. That photo is the 1525HA and the rear tail is a crisp 381.

I will let you know how it goes??

Any feedback about the HA1525 with that board?

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Pacoo said..

murf said..

kobo said..
Look good ! How much do you weigh ? And are you going to use 1125/60/KD 13 tail. Keep us posted on what you find.

Im about 80 kgs atm. That photo is the 1525HA and the rear tail is a crisp 381.

I will let you know how it goes??

Any feedback about the HA1525 with that board?

Hi Pacoo

The 1525 went well. The only issue I have was the 72cm mast was not stiff enough for the wing. The board worked really well, super easy to paddle up.

This is Dales latest version 7-0 bit fuller & shorter than the Harpoon he calls it the Blade . Running on the Axis 1300. Here's an Insta clip. I'll probably go a 7-4 version of this " Why ? Because that's as long as I can go to fit inside my car

www.instagram.com/reel/CnUAKdaBwla/?igshid=Zjc2ZTc4Nzk=

good looking board. What the width. Can you post some other pics of that beauty.

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Piros said..
This is Dales latest version 7-0 bit fuller & shorter than the Harpoon he calls it the Blade . Running on the Axis 1300. Here's an Insta clip. I'll probably go a 7-4 version of this " Why ? Because that's as long as I can go to fit inside my car

www.instagram.com/reel/CnUAKdaBwla/?igshid=Zjc2ZTc4Nzk=

Yeh , great job filming, perfect perspective you can see the bumps and lines really well. I'm interested in one of those boards for sure do you know how much they are ? He's not even pumping just pretty much gliding .guess that's the 1300

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Piros said..
This is Dales latest version 7-0 bit fuller & shorter than the Harpoon he calls it the Blade . Running on the Axis 1300. Here's an Insta clip. I'll probably go a 7-4 version of this " Why ? Because that's as long as I can go to fit inside my car

www.instagram.com/reel/CnUAKdaBwla/?igshid=Zjc2ZTc4Nzk=

Look forward to hearing how much you lose in the ability to paddle it up in flatwater?

Just spoke to Dale it's ( Blue one above ) 6-10 x 22 x 118 litres , he also flat water paddles it up no worries . The Fluro green/ yellow below 7-2 x 19-1/2 x 104 litres
(custom order) My board is on the list 7-2 x 22 x 120 litre I'm 90 kg .

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Piros said..
Just spoke to Dale it's ( Blue one above ) 6-10 x 22 x 118 litres , he also flat water paddles it up no worries . The Fluro green/ yellow below 7-2 x 19-1/2 x 104 litres
(custom order) My board is on the list 7-2 x 22 x 120 litre I'm 90 kg .

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Piros said..
Just spoke to Dale it's ( Blue one above ) 6-10 x 22 x 118 litres , he also flat water paddles it up no worries . The Fluro green/ yellow below 7-2 x 19-1/2 x 104 litres
(custom order) My board is on the list 7-2 x 22 x 120 litre I'm 90 kg .

You guys are on new boards/ foils by the looks every other week! How??

I get promo deals and I 'm shop rider for SurfFX plus I gear sent to me to test . But I but all my own gear and generally resell when I upgrade .

What do you feel is different between the Harpoon and the Blade?
They look fascinating, but I doubt I have the skills to master such narrow boards.

The design works it's not skill , the V hull drops to the waterline and the foil locks like an anchor . They are ridiculously stable , don't be miffed by the numbers.

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Piros said..
The design works it's not skill , the V hull drops to the waterline and the foil locks like an anchor . They are ridiculously stable , don't be miffed by the numbers.

Hey Piros have you seen / tried the Casey downwind boards & how would they compare (with their more fancy bottom hull?:-)

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Johndesu said..

Piros said..
The design works it's not skill , the V hull drops to the waterline and the foil locks like an anchor . They are ridiculously stable , don't be miffed by the numbers.

Hey Piros have you seen / tried the Casey downwind boards & how would they compare (with their more fancy bottom hull?:-)

I have tried a 6'6 x 22.75 105L Sunova and I have an 8'2 x 20 110L quite similar to Harpoon. Not much in it stability wise - both are surprisingly stable for their width. 8'2 is easier to paddle up on flatwater. I have not tried the 6'6 on dwd but did try it in small waves and it also comes up very easy. They are both very impressive boards and my next one might be something in between - except I would not like to lose the party-trick of paddling up flat. With the right foil I could possibly pull the 6'6 up - but not so sure...

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Piros said..
The design works it's not skill , the V hull drops to the waterline and the foil locks like an anchor . They are ridiculously stable , don't be miffed by the numbers.

If you wanted to DW paddle up ,and didn't care about flat water starts, would the blade and Casey board do the trick fine ..Is the harpoon overkill do you think ?

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Piros said..
The design works it's not skill , the V hull drops to the waterline and the foil locks like an anchor . They are ridiculously stable , don't be miffed by the numbers.

If you wanted to DW paddle up ,and didn't care about flat water starts, would the blade and Casey board do the trick fine ..Is the harpoon overkill do you think ?

To me, there's no doubt the harpoon/barracuda 8ft boards will start easier in most instances. I can get both boards up in good conditions on our run, but I have to search longer for the right bump on the shorter boards. When conditions are weak I get stuck on the shorter boards. But the opposite may also apply, this weekend I tried to tackle our Milers run on the 8'2 with a 1440 wing - it did not go particularly well. 30-37kn big and very messy and I battled with everything, getting to my feet, staying on my feet, getting up on foil and maintaining once on foil. Very few bumps seemed to invite a paddle up ( I can't paddle the 8'2 up flat with the 1440) and once up, the speed was at my absolute limit to a point where my choices were limited to going straight and holding on and thus running into cul-de sacs and dropping off foil. It was a real eye-opener and felt like I had been set back 2 years.

If you are a good enough paddler you will probably get up just as easily on the shorter board just using a slightly different/better technique...

In the end I think one should follow the adage of: "Use the biggest foil you can get your hands on when learning" to the boards - longer will be easier to get up, but once up, you'll want both to be smaller/shorter.

This is Dale riding his latest design , he calls this a Blade it's a bit more fuller design than his Harpoon
7-6 x 19 x 110 litres & riding a Lift 170

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kobo said..

Piros said..
The design works it's not skill , the V hull drops to the waterline and the foil locks like an anchor . They are ridiculously stable , don't be miffed by the numbers.

If you wanted to DW paddle up ,and didn't care about flat water starts, would the blade and Casey board do the trick fine ..Is the harpoon overkill do you think ?

I think very small efficiency gains will lead to success for the paddlers starting their dw journey so it's hard to guess the board if you want to purchase just one board and not waste money or more importantly for me time as I am not young.

9 months ago A few with great influence in aus were saying the long narrow boards were not the way to go, been there done that. Then you had Zane Westwood, when testing gear, moving to his sultan 7'2" and this to me spoke volumes for where the trend in sizing would go. Zane an experienced dw'er and a freakish young athlete had his choice of boards when testing but hasn't got off, what was a much longer board for him at 7'2" and very narrow, once he road it. His dw journey is fairly well documented and a real eye opener for me in regard to how real the struggle is and how important the equipment is even for someone with such talent. Very inspiring to watch.

Many of the very best may never need to go longer and narrower but the reality is there are already some notables that have already gone longer and narrower in their own subtle way and then there are the extended Maui crew that have gone all the way to mid 7' and well under 19 wide it seems.

I didn't want to buy several new boards so I just made sure and ordered one of the long narrow options (barracuda) and if I still take a long time I just know its me and no excuses and to just enjoy the journey and not obsess about my equipment. I am borrowing my sons e3 for practice while I wait.

These boards have a softer chine in the tail. Can anyone with firsthand experience compare the softer tail chine to a harder chine (dagger, Amos, etc)? ability to paddle up, touchdown, etc?

It's aboulsutely impossible to compare boards without riding each one they are so different , every brand is so far apart. This copying Kalama thing really is crazy as nothing actually compares. The one thing I can add from the ones I've tried is length is king , longer & narrower is easy to flat start . If it's easier to flat start , it's easier to start in the ocean , pure and simple. If you can't balance on it in the ocean at 19" get a 21 or 22" it won't kill you to go wider. Bump up the litres as well not alot but just enough is the trick . I went from 110L @90kg to 121 L .

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Piros said..
It's aboulsutely impossible to compare boards without riding each one they are so different , every brand is so far apart. This copying Kalama thing really is crazy as nothing actually compares. The one thing I can add from the ones I've tried is length is king , longer & narrower is easy to flat start . If it's easier to flat start , it's easier to start in the ocean , pure and simple. If you can't balance on it in the ocean at 19" get a 21 or 22" it won't kill you to go wider. Bump up the litres as well not alot but just enough is the trick . I went from 110L @90kg to 121 L .

I think you are right on the Liters - my comfort zone now on the Copycudas is 5-10L above what I'd use as a surf SUP.

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Piros said..
This is Dale riding his latest design , he calls this a Blade it's a bit more fuller design than his Harpoon
7-6 x 19 x 110 litres & riding a Lift 170

Those are some nice carves for such a long board!

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Velocicraptor said..
These boards have a softer chine in the tail. Can anyone with firsthand experience compare the softer tail chine to a harder chine (dagger, Amos, etc)? ability to paddle up, touchdown, etc?

Really curious about this one too. Bottom shape has yet to be fully figured out

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foilstate said..

Velocicraptor said..
These boards have a softer chine in the tail. Can anyone with firsthand experience compare the softer tail chine to a harder chine (dagger, Amos, etc)? ability to paddle up, touchdown, etc?

Really curious about this one too. Bottom shape has yet to be fully figured out

Hi,
I did not try those boards. But I tried 2 customs on the same day and a pronounce chine on the sides going all the way to the tail, feel a lot easier to pop up.
Softer always feels more sticky to me.