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Bundeenabuoy said..
This looks interesting.
Please help me find some issues with it.


yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/van-de-stadt-34-extensive-upgrades-stunning-interior/249056

Engine is old Yanmar 3GMD/20 and is missing the air filter. Otherwise looks great.

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Bundeenabuoy said..
This looks interesting.
Please help me find some issues with it.


yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/van-de-stadt-34-extensive-upgrades-stunning-interior/249056

Lovely boat. Just needs the anchor to be stored in the anchor well.

Another John Lidgard pearler............a tad short on sails but the rest is sublime what..............

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/lidgard-33/249811

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Bundeenabuoy said..
This looks interesting.
Please help me find some issues with it.


yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/van-de-stadt-34-extensive-upgrades-stunning-interior/249056

I looked at a "strip plank" construction yacht a few years ago and received some negative comments over this type of build from a yacht designer. Apparently they are difficult to repair, but unfortunately I can no longer access this info. Anyone with more experience / knowledge care to comment?

Also that engine does not look "...well maintained...". and I cannot see the engine hours listed. Unless you had a mechanic give it the the thumbs up i would be budgeting $15-20k for a new engine. Most of the electronic look ancient, so there's another $10k.

I've seen similar boats advertised for around $30k.

Ilenart

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Ilenart said..

Bundeenabuoy said..
This looks interesting.
Please help me find some issues with it.


yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/van-de-stadt-34-extensive-upgrades-stunning-interior/249056

I looked at a "strip plank" construction yacht a few years ago and received some negative comments over this type of build from a yacht designer. Apparently they are difficult to repair, but unfortunately I can no longer access this info. Anyone with more experience / knowledge care to comment?

Also that engine does not look "...well maintained...". and I cannot see the engine hours listed. Unless you had a mechanic give it the the thumbs up i would be budgeting $15-20k for a new engine. Most of the electronic look ancient, so there's another $10k.

I've seen similar boats advertised for around $30k.

Ilenart

Repair of strip plank yachts is not difficult but needs to be done right. eg as per summarised here;

www.westsystem.com/wp-content/uploads/Wooden-Boat-Restoration-and-Repair.pdf

Scrubby Creek Boat Works built some excellent yachts during their time.

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r13 said..
Another John Lidgard pearler............a tad short on sails but the rest is sublime what..............

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/lidgard-33/249811

Very nice. Has a lead keel whereas the Van de Stadt 34 above has a lead filled keel. possibly a mild steel keel. If it has an anchor locker it would be a great boat. I'd own a strip planked boat any day but if I had a choice I would prefer double diagonal.

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EC31 said..

Bundeenabuoy said..
This looks interesting.
Please help me find some issues with it.


yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/van-de-stadt-34-extensive-upgrades-stunning-interior/249056

Engine is old Yanmar 3GMD/20 and is missing the air filter. Otherwise looks great.

Thanks all for your imput.
Its now Under Contract.

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/tingalpa/boat-accessories-parts/via-42-aluminum-centerboard-expedition-sailing-boat-for-sale/1253091296?utm_source=com.samsung.android.messaging&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=android_VIP_sticky Price: $87,000 Negotiable

This looks interesting still needs a bit spent on the fit out but great bones.

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twodogs1969 said..
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/tingalpa/boat-accessories-parts/via-42-aluminum-centerboard-expedition-sailing-boat-for-sale/1253091296?utm_source=com.samsung.android.messaging&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=android_VIP_sticky Price: $87,000 Negotiable

This looks interesting still needs a bit spent on the fit out but great bones.

Is it the right time for you yet?

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twodogs1969 said..
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/tingalpa/boat-accessories-parts/via-42-aluminum-centerboard-expedition-sailing-boat-for-sale/1253091296?utm_source=com.samsung.android.messaging&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=android_VIP_sticky Price: $87,000 Negotiable

This looks interesting still needs a bit spent on the fit out but great bones.

A heavy swing keel would have to be looked at very carefully. Could have issues which are expensive. Necessary for Western France, and maybe Northern Australia, but for Queensland?

Gift!

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mandurah/sail-boats/36-yacht/1253306802

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Ramona said..
Gift!

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mandurah/sail-boats/36-yacht/1253306802

That one does look very good.

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Yara said..

twodogs1969 said..
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/tingalpa/boat-accessories-parts/via-42-aluminum-centerboard-expedition-sailing-boat-for-sale/1253091296?utm_source=com.samsung.android.messaging&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=android_VIP_sticky Price: $87,000 Negotiable

This looks interesting still needs a bit spent on the fit out but great bones.

A heavy swing keel would have to be looked at very carefully. Could have issues which are expensive. Necessary for Western France, and maybe Northern Australia, but for Queensland?

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Ramona said..
Gift!

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mandurah/sail-boats/36-yacht/1253306802

Very nice! Wish it was on the east coast!

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Ramona said..
Gift!

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mandurah/sail-boats/36-yacht/1253306802

Very nice! Wish it was on the east coast!

Lady Jane is one of my favorites here in WA . I wish I had bought her when I looked at her nearly 10 years ago.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/lotus-10-6/212573
Its been For Sale for over a year.
Now coming down in price.

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Bundeenabuoy said..
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/lotus-10-6/212573
Its been For Sale for over a year.
Now coming down in price.

It's nice but I would prefer to save 20 grand and buy an SS39.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/230425

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Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/lotus-10-6/212573
Its been For Sale for over a year.
Now coming down in price.

It's nice but I would prefer to save 20 grand and buy an SS39.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/230425

Great name too!

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Bundeenabuoy said..
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/lotus-10-6/212573
Its been For Sale for over a year.
Now coming down in price.

Got to worry when there is no mention of the engine.

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Hobbes99 said..

Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/lotus-10-6/212573
Its been For Sale for over a year.
Now coming down in price.

It's nice but I would prefer to save 20 grand and buy an SS39.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/230425

Great name too!

Call me a snob, but I hate puns as boat names.

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Bundeenabuoy said..
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/lotus-10-6/212573
Its been For Sale for over a year.
Now coming down in price.

It's nice but I would prefer to save 20 grand and buy an SS39.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/230425

I am in the process of purchasing the S&S-39.

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Bundeenabuoy said..

Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/lotus-10-6/212573
Its been For Sale for over a year.
Now coming down in price.

It's nice but I would prefer to save 20 grand and buy an SS39.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/230425

I am in the process of purchasing the S&S-39.

That was my win the lottery boat!

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Bundeenabuoy said..

Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/lotus-10-6/212573
Its been For Sale for over a year.
Now coming down in price.

It's nice but I would prefer to save 20 grand and buy an SS39.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/230425

I am in the process of purchasing the S&S-39.

Nice! Looks like a good buy. where will home be?

Im very tempted by this farr as a liveaboard
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/farr-37/249037

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Achernar said..

Hobbes99 said..

Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/lotus-10-6/212573
Its been For Sale for over a year.
Now coming down in price.

It's nice but I would prefer to save 20 grand and buy an SS39.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/230425

Great name too!

Call me a snob, but I hate puns as boat names.

Yeah I'm sort of with you.

Saw "Blew Bayou" the other day.

Wouldn't you spend more time explaining how to spell it than you would enjoy?

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Ramona said..
It's nice but I would prefer to save 20 grand and buy an SS39.

For me dollars are the last consideration.

My first consideration is "Is it what I want?", be it yacht, car, house or whatever.

So forget about the money and let's line up the Lotus 10.6 (34.77 feet) and the S&S 39. Both designed about the same time.

S&S 39.
1. Designed to the IOR racing rule which is now defunct and irrelevant.
2. The beam with pinched ends are designed to increase WLL when heeled, nice, but when motoring that form digs a hole in the water and when powered up under sail will not plane.
3. Pinched ends reduces internal volume i.e cabin space as well as buoyancy and that hull form will tend to hobby horse in a seaway.
4. Originally designed as a racer to use one as a cruiser will tend to be expensive as far as rigging and deck hardware is concerned.

Lotus 10.6
1. Designed by the Kiwi legend Alan Wright who flat refused to design a yacht to a racing rule and I think drew his first hull when he was 10 year old .
2. Slightly more beam and LWL than the S&S and radically different hull form way ahead of it's time which is seen on most performance cruisers and racers today. Reasonably fine entry out to a good beam carried mostly to the transom with flat underwater lines which allows planing when powered up, transom hung rudder for light steering and simplicity plus easily powered with a lower horsepower engine.
The Lotus has 230 mm (9") less draught and is 3.5 tonne lighter.
3. Huge interior volume providing generous accommodation space, higher topsides providing plenty of reserve buoyancy (therefore stores carrying capacity) and through the cleverness of design the ergonomics of moving around on a Lotus is second to none.
4. Not being designed as a racer but as a performance cruising yacht the upkeep of rig and deck gear is economical in comparison.

What is there not to like about a Lotus yacht except me bragging about owning one??


sailboatdata.com/sailboat/ss-39

sailboatdata.com/sailboat/lotus-106

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Achernar said..

Hobbes99 said..

Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/lotus-10-6/212573
Its been For Sale for over a year.
Now coming down in price.

It's nice but I would prefer to save 20 grand and buy an SS39.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/230425

Great name too!

Call me a snob, but I hate puns as boat names.

+1

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Bundeenabuoy said..

Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/lotus-10-6/212573
Its been For Sale for over a year.
Now coming down in price.

It's nice but I would prefer to save 20 grand and buy an SS39.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/230425

I am in the process of purchasing the S&S-39.

Congratulations! First thing you might want to add is an anchor winch.
Swanson 28 a little cosy?

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Ramona said..
It's nice but I would prefer to save 20 grand and buy an SS39.

For me dollars are the last consideration.

My first consideration is "Is it what I want?", be it yacht, car, house or whatever.

So forget about the money and let's line up the Lotus 10.6 (34.77 feet) and the S&S 39. Both designed about the same time.

S&S 39.
1. Designed to the IOR racing rule which is now defunct and irrelevant.
2. The beam with pinched ends are designed to increase WLL when heeled, nice, but when motoring that form digs a hole in the water and when powered up under sail will not plane.
3. Pinched ends reduces internal volume i.e cabin space as well as buoyancy and that hull form will tend to hobby horse in a seaway.
4. Originally designed as a racer to use one as a cruiser will tend to be expensive as far as rigging and deck hardware is concerned.

Lotus 10.6
1. Designed by the Kiwi legend Alan Wright who flat refused to design a yacht to a racing rule and I think drew his first hull when he was 10 year old .
2. Slightly more beam and LWL than the S&S and radically different hull form way ahead of it's time which is seen on most performance cruisers and racers today. Reasonably fine entry out to a good beam carried mostly to the transom with flat underwater lines which allows planing when powered up, transom hung rudder for light steering and simplicity plus easily powered with a lower horsepower engine.
The Lotus has 230 mm (9") less draught and is 3.5 tonne lighter.
3. Huge interior volume providing generous accommodation space, higher topsides providing plenty of reserve buoyancy (therefore stores carrying capacity) and through the cleverness of design the ergonomics of moving around on a Lotus is second to none.
4. Not being designed as a racer but as a performance cruising yacht the upkeep of rig and deck gear is economical in comparison.

What is there not to like about a Lotus yacht except me bragging about owning one??


sailboatdata.com/sailboat/ss-39

sailboatdata.com/sailboat/lotus-106

I would take the SS39. Good enough for Jon Sanders, good enough for me.

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Ramona said..

cisco said..

Ramona said..
It's nice but I would prefer to save 20 grand and buy an SS39.

For me dollars are the last consideration.

My first consideration is "Is it what I want?", be it yacht, car, house or whatever.

So forget about the money and let's line up the Lotus 10.6 (34.77 feet) and the S&S 39. Both designed about the same time.

S&S 39.
1. Designed to the IOR racing rule which is now defunct and irrelevant.
2. The beam with pinched ends are designed to increase WLL when heeled, nice, but when motoring that form digs a hole in the water and when powered up under sail will not plane.
3. Pinched ends reduces internal volume i.e cabin space as well as buoyancy and that hull form will tend to hobby horse in a seaway.
4. Originally designed as a racer to use one as a cruiser will tend to be expensive as far as rigging and deck hardware is concerned.

Lotus 10.6
1. Designed by the Kiwi legend Alan Wright who flat refused to design a yacht to a racing rule and I think drew his first hull when he was 10 year old .
2. Slightly more beam and LWL than the S&S and radically different hull form way ahead of it's time which is seen on most performance cruisers and racers today. Reasonably fine entry out to a good beam carried mostly to the transom with flat underwater lines which allows planing when powered up, transom hung rudder for light steering and simplicity plus easily powered with a lower horsepower engine.
The Lotus has 230 mm (9") less draught and is 3.5 tonne lighter.
3. Huge interior volume providing generous accommodation space, higher topsides providing plenty of reserve buoyancy (therefore stores carrying capacity) and through the cleverness of design the ergonomics of moving around on a Lotus is second to none.
4. Not being designed as a racer but as a performance cruising yacht the upkeep of rig and deck gear is economical in comparison.

What is there not to like about a Lotus yacht except me bragging about owning one??


sailboatdata.com/sailboat/ss-39

sailboatdata.com/sailboat/lotus-106

I would take the SS39. Good enough for Jon Sanders, good enough for me.

More than happy with mine.