drsurf said..




Hi Alysum.
I've been using the 110cm Axis Tray for a while now and have already sold some as well. I have one 125cm model left in stock until the next shipment.
I'm 65kg and mainly use Flysurfer Peak4 kites with a surf foil such as the Moses 679 pictured below and I'm very happy with the Tray. It's very light but well constructed with plenty of footstrap positions if required. Foil tracks are set right back in the board making it great for large surf foils. I previously had an Axis MV125 which I also enjoyed and have a couple of these for sale with a good discount. Coming from a board 15cm longer than the Tray made no difference with regard to touchdowns as the Tray has a wide nose and bounces back easily if you whack the back of a wave. The width makes it easy to get going in light winds where you may need to build up some speed with the board to get foiling. Turning is great with such a light board as the swing weight is so little you feel really connected to the foil. Pumps well too.

I can't really fault the Tray, it's only a choice between sizes and the pricing is very good for a carbon board under 3kg. Love the Moses foils too. Have been using the Moses 633 surf foil but sold that and am waiting on a replacement of the same. In The meantime I'm using the Moses W679 which is smaller in surface area than the 633 but higher aspect. Feels faster and is very manoeuvrable on the 82cm mast. Didn't warm to it at first but it's now starting to grow on me now that I have adjusted it to myself and the board. Was out on this combo with a 5m Peak4 kite in 7 to 10 knots yesterday and had fun with no-one else out except for another kiter on a surf foil and 5m Peak4 And he was 20kg heavier than me! And being Australia Day, the beach had a lot of LEI kiters hungry to get going but needing more wind.
Picked up to 10 to 15knots later and everyone had fun. Makes for a great Australia Day, kiting at the local beach on a hot summer day, very patriotic

Alysum said..
Hey Kamikuza I'm on the DC 4"6 and for some reason it feels quite unstable for axis S foils... The tray felt amazing stable in comparison.

Alysum said..
Hey Kamikuza I'm on the DC 4"6 and for some reason it feels quite unstable for axis S foils... The tray felt amazing stable in comparison.

Alysum said..
No straps. All the way back on the tracks as my front foot is already in front of the holes for the forward straps.
It's a known issue that the slingshot tracks are too far forward for axis foils so I cannot imagine having it it all the way forward on the track!
EDIT: I can see on pics that the tracks are much further back on the DC 3"6

Not sure it's about the weight. It hardly ever feels stable.... Would love to hear from other DC users!

Kamikuza said..
Upgrade time!


... what size wings are they ??

Puetz said..... what size wings are they ??

Alysum said..
Lucky you upgraded, maybe because you're in NZ. Axis have traditionally had some stock shortage issues. Been waiting for 4 months so far for my new mast.... And now the tray and 66 wing are sold out.

Alysum said..
I need to demo the 660 next I guess oh and the ultra short fuselage too

Kamikuza said..






The gull wings like to carve, the flat wings like to go straight.

IIRC the 660 was designed as a high-lift wing, so the 680 will most likely be faster (I reckon the 820 is faster) but when you carve the flat wings IMO they tend to fell like they sideslip into the turn -- the gull wings carve around like they're on rails.

You can also get on a bit of wave at just above stall speed and noodle back and forth hardly moving. I reckon the lift is as good as the 820 but the smaller package makes it more agile -- of course.

I found the ultra-short just too twichty. Going from the regular to the short was more fun but only a little challenging. You will probably adapt though...I just didn't want to put the time into it :D

Alysum said..
Oh that's interesting the comment on the 660 being slower than 680? I might pass on that then! Perhaps an even smaller stab for tighter turns then if ultra short is too twitchy?

KBGhost said..
I have been wondering about swapping the 820 for a 920 to pick up a knot or so. Should I? . Also been recommended the 910 to try for a faster light wind option. . .

Alysum said..
Let me know your thoughts on the 390GAP.

Alysum said..
Cheers Kami.

Has anyone tried the 860 for light wind kite?
Lately I've been using the 920 way more than the 680. Yes it's much slower but it's so much easier and I can fly much smaller kites.
Quite a big difference in surface area the 860 vs 920 so not sure it will have as much lift?

Kamikuza said..





My 2 cents again...

IIRC the x60 line was designed for high lift at lower speeds. I reckon the 660 goes very nearly as low as my 820 and holds a line in a carve much better. It's pretty fun sometimes just to sit on a slow-moving swell and diddle about at almost-stall speed.

I rode 660, 860 and 900 in a single session, all other gear the same, and I felt the 900 was fast and a tad more glide, but the 860 -- surprise surprise -- carved harder.

I'm thinking I'm going to get a 760 for a bit more glide and low end...without going too wide.

Best advice -- try and get a demo

eppo said..
What had more lift the 900 or 860?

Alysum said..
Does the 860 sink and not floats on its side like the 920 (which loves to sail upwind )

Alysum said..
So who has a carbon mast ? Is it worth the price tag with little weight benefit compared to other branded carbon masts ?