Does anybody else have a problem with rpm's breaking all the time or is it just because i slam my kite about 500 times a session? ive had both my rpm's 12 and 9 m deflate, blow up, explode on me way to many times for my liking. they actually both went down on the weekend so now im stuck with nothing untill they get repaired they are only 7 months old. just wondering if its an rpm thing or a me crashing to much thing? not going to stop crashing any time soon tho. the more i progress the harder and faster i seem to crash.

don't think it's a common occurrence?

I crash my kites heaps too but you might just find if you split your fingers across the depower rope on the bar that you won't tend to steer your kite directly down so much. Might just save you some repairs

After seeing your "who needs lessons vid" I,m not surprised your kites are fecked.

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toppleover said...
After seeing your "who needs lessons vid" I,m not surprised your kites are fecked.

ha ha hehehe Haha

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toppleover said...
After seeing your "who needs lessons vid" I,m not surprised your kites are fecked.

Hahaha i was waiting for somebody to say that

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glendog said..

toppleover said...
After seeing your "who needs lessons vid" I,m not surprised your kites are fecked.

Hahaha i was waiting for somebody to say that

Maybe you should add into your vid thread that was a long time ago bro :p

If you dropped your sunnies 500 times would you expect them to last?
I try to keep my sunnies on my head and my kite in the air.
There is no skill involved in slamming your kite, progression means learning to fly....

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Rails said...
If you dropped your sunnies 500 times would you expect them to last?
I try to keep my sunnies on my head and my kite in the air.
There is no skill involved in slamming your kite, progression means learning to fly....

No skill involved in lawn mowing either

either way RPMs are so easy to fly and loop that there is no reason to slam them,
just let go of the bar or like eezee said use one hand in the middle,
it may be your technique needs improving...??
(Noted: the trailing edge has been prone to ripping after a few seasons on mine at least, easy fix though)

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Rails said...
either way RPMs are so easy to fly and loop that there is no reason to slam them,
just let go of the bar or like eezee said use one hand in the middle,
it may be your technique needs improving...??
(Noted: the trailing edge has been prone to ripping after a few seasons on mine at least, easy fix though)

Yeh everybodys technique needs improving, if your not crashing your not trying hard enough. I bet most pro riders crash even more than me when they are trying to learn a new trick. I also bet they dont get a full season out of one or 2 kites. Like i said im not gonna stop crashing and if i do its time to move onto the next trick. Love rpm's by the way. And yeh i think it is just a me crashing alot thing.

Slingshot is the benchmark for build quality IMO!

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glendog said..

Rails said...
either way RPMs are so easy to fly and loop that there is no reason to slam them,
just let go of the bar or like eezee said use one hand in the middle,
it may be your technique needs improving...??
(Noted: the trailing edge has been prone to ripping after a few seasons on mine at least, easy fix though)

Yeh everybodys technique needs improving, if your not crashing your not trying hard enough. I bet most pro riders crash even more than me when they are trying to learn a new trick. I also bet they dont get a full season out of one or 2 kites. Like i said im not gonna stop crashing and if i do its time to move onto the next trick. Love rpm's by the way. And yeh i think it is just a me crashing alot thing.

True they usually crash themselves but their kites rarely hit the water............... with time you will learn exactly where your kite is even mid stack and be able to re-direct it so as to avoid it hitting hard. Worst case scenario let go of the bar so it crashes without full power.

just avoid slamming your kite tomahawk style LE straight down. all kites will pop valves etc. after awhile..

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harry potter said..

glendog said..

Rails said...
either way RPMs are so easy to fly and loop that there is no reason to slam them,
just let go of the bar or like eezee said use one hand in the middle,
it may be your technique needs improving...??
(Noted: the trailing edge has been prone to ripping after a few seasons on mine at least, easy fix though)

Yeh everybodys technique needs improving, if your not crashing your not trying hard enough. I bet most pro riders crash even more than me when they are trying to learn a new trick. I also bet they dont get a full season out of one or 2 kites. Like i said im not gonna stop crashing and if i do its time to move onto the next trick. Love rpm's by the way. And yeh i think it is just a me crashing alot thing.

True they usually crash themselves but their kites rarely hit the water............... with time you will learn exactly where your kite is even mid stack and be able to re-direct it so as to avoid it hitting hard. Worst case scenario let go of the bar so it crashes without full power.

ohh thanks for the advise mate, next time i drop a handle pass ill quickly pull in my safety leash "mid stack" grab my bar and re direct my kite so it doesn't hit the water. while im at it i might as well finnish the pass.

I'd be doing just what your thinking... After I worry bout the
Consequences for my kite. Keep going hard dude! No pain.. no gain!
Got too risk it too get da biscuit.

I crash my kites all the time too, just went to a Liquid force bar which pulls a heap of trim WHEN I lose the bar so my kites crash softer, figure I'll get the extra season out of them.

This is a cracker.... If yall knew how hard Glen rides you probs wouldn't be telling him to improve his technique or learn where his kite is.

If u don't keep crashing u won' get better ;)

RPMs might be good for riding but I can't say Ive heard of them necessarily being able to take a beating. Kites should be able to take it... just like my cab switch which is a 2011 model and has taken a royal beating many a time and never broken.... not saying cab is better for flying but it sure don't break...

Yeah Glendog goes great . I dont think he crashes anymore than the other free\wake stylers .
Your old switchblade lasted better . I wouldn't buy a rpm after your problems even if they fly great .
Go Ozone !!! lol

Crashing is a must if you are going to improve. But slamming your kite leading edge down into the water has a lot to do with you steering the kite downwards. Don't get me wrong, everyone does it at some stage.

I have no idea what level you are at or what tricks you are working on, but I think that if you slow the turning speed of your kite, it may avoid slamming the kite into the water. After all, if you end up landing the trick, then you wanna make sure you ride out of it and your kite doesn't crash.

I've got a few mates who ride RPM's and I've seen them take a beating. But they are not slamming the kites leading edge down into the water 50+ times a session.

I used to completely fack my kites up as well... Are you crossing your fingers over on front to back hand passes (i.e. blinds?) if not.. do that. Also, right before you pass and let go with your back hand, give a little pull with it so the kite will stay at a neutral position at 45?. Other than that Slingshots are bomb proof.. once you get a few more tricks under your belt you'll stop tamahawking. It's a stage every freestyle rider goes through.. definitely did myself and pretty much all of my mates that are any good did as well. Keep messing those kites up and have some fun!

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Big eeeZeee said..

don't think it's a common occurrence?

I crash my kites heaps too but you might just find if you split your fingers across the depower rope on the bar that you won't tend to steer your kite directly down so much. Might just save you some repairs

this could have been a two post thread...

technique is the answer!

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Drury said...
I used to completely fack my kites up as well... Are you crossing your fingers over on front to back hand passes (i.e. blinds?) if not.. do that. Also, right before you pass and let go with your back hand, give a little pull with it so the kite will stay at a neutral position at 45?. Other than that Slingshots are bomb proof.. once you get a few more tricks under your belt you'll stop tamahawking. It's a stage every freestyle rider goes through.. definitely did myself and pretty much all of my mates that are any good did as well. Keep messing those kites up and have some fun!

thanks mate, yeh got my hands overlapping on the bar, so you recon any kite would break under the same punnishment? Good to finaly get some advise from somebody that knows what they are talking about.

Always choose the advice you like

no, I watched a couple of dutch frestyle riders spanking their rpms, my ozone would of been packed up on its way to htl for a repair

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cauncy said...
no, I watched a couple of dutch frestyle riders spanking their rpms, my ozone would of been packed up on its way to htl for a repair

Ridden ozones and banged them around as much as any freestyle rider. They hold up just fine mate

Slingshots = bombproof = urban myth !
maybe back in the day, but between myself and two of my mates flying Rallys and RPM I reckon we've financed Neils last Indo trip

But really, crash any kite face first into the drink over and over and you're gonna hurt it.
Crashing is fully acceptable ( for you), but you've gotta keep the kite in the air.

You may just have to accept that you're gonna need to budget for more kite$ than the average dude mowing around you.
( ask if your local store wants to sponsor you, sounds like you're getting a name for yourself out there.)

Good luck with the progress, sounds fun!!!

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daggy said..

Slingshots = bombproof = urban myth !
maybe back in the day, but between myself and two of my mates flying Rallys and RPM I reckon we've financed Neils last Indo trip

But really, crash any kite face first into the drink over and over and you're gonna hurt it.
Crashing is fully acceptable ( for you), but you've gotta keep the kite in the air.

You may just have to accept that you're gonna need to budget for more kite$ than the average dude mowing around you.
( ask if your local store wants to sponsor you, sounds like you're getting a name for yourself out there.)

Good luck with the progress, sounds fun!!!

Thanks mate.
i dont slam my kite into the water every time i crash probably only about 20% of my crashes i do tho, lol and sometimes i even land feet first. i also kite a ****load which probably doesn't help. if i only kited as much as the regular person my kites would last alot longer. i am usually home from work around 3pm so i pretty much have the chance to kite every day, and i do if its windy enough haha even when its not windy enough ill still have a crack. just baught a 17m zepher still waiting for it to arrive but only weighing 60kg theres not gonna be many days that i dont kite.
some would say im obsessed.

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glendog said..

daggy said..

Slingshots = bombproof = urban myth !
maybe back in the day, but between myself and two of my mates flying Rallys and RPM I reckon we've financed Neils last Indo trip

But really, crash any kite face first into the drink over and over and you're gonna hurt it.
Crashing is fully acceptable ( for you), but you've gotta keep the kite in the air.

You may just have to accept that you're gonna need to budget for more kite$ than the average dude mowing around you.
( ask if your local store wants to sponsor you, sounds like you're getting a name for yourself out there.)

Good luck with the progress, sounds fun!!!

Thanks mate.
i dont slam my kite into the water every time i crash probably only about 20% of my crashes i do tho, lol and sometimes i even land feet first. i also kite a ****load which probably doesn't help. if i only kited as much as the regular person my kites would last alot longer. i am usually home from work around 3pm so i pretty much have the chance to kite every day, and i do if its windy enough haha even when its not windy enough ill still have a crack. just baught a 17m zepher still waiting for it to arrive but only weighing 60kg theres not gonna be many days that i dont kite.
some would say im obsessed.

you're gonna love that zeph for unhooking! Sits there all year! ALthough it doesn't like to crash, the canopy folds in half because its so big and the struts so thin. Still a sick kite for light wind unhooked riding.

I thaught all that light wind stuff was pretty **** untill i had a go of my mates zepher. Its awesome and could still unhook just fine in about 10 knots. Its pretty slow so ya still have a fair bit of time to save it when ya crash.

Hey glendog!! ..again, just cause he's so good to watch...

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eppo said...
Hey glendog!! ..again, just cause he's so good to watch...

Yeh thats good aye. Andy yates is seriously crazy good. I wish he was still doing pkra's. Or at least go in a few here and there.