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2015 Naish Pivot 12m

Created by thorn thorn  > 9 months ago, 18 Sep 2014
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wave6ft
wave6ft

QLD

146 posts

20 Dec 2014 12:46pm
No have not great kite apart from that
wave6ft
wave6ft

QLD

146 posts

21 Dec 2014 6:29pm
And will add kite deflated today has a leak.I have never tried to find and fix a leak on a naish kite.As strut and bladder set up different. Does not pump.up past 1 psi
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

21 Dec 2014 9:59pm
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gokid said...
wave6ft said..
On my pivot on the canopy towards the wings it seems there is a double layer of meterial stiched on.The problem seems water gets stuck between the layers and wont come out and wont dry out after a few hours even in the sun design fault I think





Yes thats no good,

Did you ask the Kiteshop you bought it from for advise


Don't get it wet
wave6ft
wave6ft

QLD

146 posts

22 Dec 2014 1:41am
I was waiting for that answer lol
Leighbreeze
Leighbreeze

WA

556 posts

22 Dec 2014 6:33am
Hey folks,had my first session on the 12m Pivot at our local Pippie Beach,Yamba in fairly light 12-14knots.At 95kgs and on a Mako King 165cm.Ok for a 12m the Pivot is the fastest turning kite that I have used so far.In that wind it made an average session really enjoyable.Excellent bottom end for such marginal wind.Would normally use the Best 17m Light wind but just wanted to see the real bottom end of this amazing Pivot.Two mates were on 11mEdges and big TT'S,boths less kgs and only doing slightly better unwind but hey they are EDGES.Impressed with the light bar pressure,normally like the above the bar depower but below trim works a treat.My wife is over the moon impressed with trim depower being easier to reach.Most above bar trim for her being to hard to reach.6-8-10 and now the 12m covers both of us for all conditions being different weights.All in all stoked in these kites.
xray
xray

23 posts

22 Dec 2014 9:09pm
Own a 8m. Rode it both strapless and on a twin tip in both high and low end of the kite. This kite jumps very very nicely! Excellent low and high end and drifts nicely while waveriding. Pretty impressed!
noodelsrominov
noodelsrominov

VIC

265 posts

5 Jan 2015 12:32am
I know you cannot trust them but does anyone know where there is a indication of wind ranges for the pivots? I cannot find on the Naish site. I want to see what the overlap is between the 8 and 11 vs 8 and 12.
edugp
edugp

VIC

33 posts

9 Jan 2015 12:54pm
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noodelsrominov said..
I know you cannot trust them but does anyone know where there is a indication of wind ranges for the pivots? I cannot find on the Naish site. I want to see what the overlap is between the 8 and 11 vs 8 and 12.


Not sure but I have just bought a new 12m Pivot and it is quite more powerful than my old 12m Dice. Apparently is a powerful kite for its size
apepene43
apepene43

QLD

116 posts

9 Jan 2015 7:13pm
I think the 12 has huge power and wind range prob 10 to 20 knotts for me I removed the bar stopper so I could get more depower and has helped alot great kite
thorn
thorn

WA

172 posts

9 Jan 2015 6:11pm
Hi just traded in my 12m for an 11m. Couldn't be happier with the swap. I have a 17m Zephyr for really light days but seldom use it. The 11m is much faster, drifts better than the 12m. Couldn't be happier. My quiver is now 7, 9, 11 Pivot with me at 81kgs.
wave6ft
wave6ft

QLD

146 posts

9 Jan 2015 8:20pm
What range has the 7 got with a average sized board and do u find say the 9 is totally diif kite I didnt think the 12 drifted that good and was half a hand ful usjng in arm toe side compared to other kites like dice etc with kess constant pull
wave6ft
wave6ft

QLD

146 posts

9 Jan 2015 8:21pm
Using one arm sorry ...
noodelsrominov
noodelsrominov

VIC

265 posts

9 Jan 2015 9:59pm
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thorn said...
Hi just traded in my 12m for an 11m. Couldn't be happier with the swap. I have a 17m Zephyr for really light days but seldom use it. The 11m is much faster, drifts better than the 12m. Couldn't be happier. My quiver is now 7, 9, 11 Pivot with me at 81kgs.


I've recently heard that from another guy at the beach about the 12. I'm sold on the 11 and I am picking it up tomorrow. Can't wait....the only downer is I don't think there's any wind coming.

thorn
thorn

WA

172 posts

11 Jan 2015 9:58pm
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wave6ft said..
What range has the 7 got with a average sized board and do u find say the 9 is totally diif kite I didnt think the 12 drifted that good and was half a hand ful usjng in arm toe side compared to other kites like dice etc with kess constant pull


The 7, 9, and 11m drift really well. The 11m much better than the 12m. They are all stable, have great boost, hang time. I use the 7m from 20kts upwards. The 9m is my favourite. They all have an amazing bottom end.
ralfy
ralfy

WA

55 posts

23 Feb 2015 12:23am
I was down at woodman point today,probably 30 knots. There was a possibility of demoing Naish gear and although i have not previously particularly liked the few Naish kites that I tried (Bolt, Helix, Park ). instead my preferred kite is Ozone Edge 9 m , 11 m (jumping, backroll, transitions). the 7 m Pivot was availabe for demo and i tried it. While the kite turns quick, it was not twitchy so i dared some jumps. The jumps reminded me of the edges: very safe feeling, good control, light bar pressure, good for transitions and high slow backrolls, and most of all floaty jumps and soft smooth controllable landings, not like park or bandit. I could not understand how a fast turning 3 strut kite can be kept stable above your head, like the edge, without feeling an accidental kiteloop could happen, like with the older Jekyll. Transitions, nice staying in the air as long as possibly and redirecting the kite just before hitting the water. Better than with the edge. Kiteloop transitions.... Well i did not dare to with my edges, so i chickened out but would expect to be easier with less penalties than with the edge....btw Jesse did kiteloops, (torch) wow. So is the pivot the closest thing to faster turning edge And good for hand plant and dark slide transitions?
ste
ste

ste

WA

524 posts

23 Feb 2015 8:36pm
Got the 11-9, absolutely love these kites, a real cracker, trouble is I want a 7 now!
skywalker3d
skywalker3d

VIC

228 posts

24 Feb 2015 9:24am
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ste said..
Got the 11-9, absolutely love these kites, a real cracker, trouble is I want a 7 now!


I have the 7-9-11m pivot combo great size's love them. I only flat water free ride they are great and the wife rips it up on them also

I don't use the Naish bar but so not sure about it. I don't like under depower much.
ralfy
ralfy

WA

55 posts

25 Feb 2015 12:03am
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ste said..
Got the 11-9, absolutely love these kites, a real cracker, trouble is I want a 7 now!


So how are the 9 and 11 in terms of jumping, hang time (compared to other kites), and can the loop quick enough without developing too much power?
thorn
thorn

WA

172 posts

25 Feb 2015 7:36am
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ralfy said..

ste said..
Got the 11-9, absolutely love these kites, a real cracker, trouble is I want a 7 now!



So how are the 9 and 11 in terms of jumping, hang time (compared to other kites), and can the loop quick enough without developing too much power?


The 7,9,and 11 are fantastic for jumping with great stability and hang time and very comparable to the Edges I used to own. They loop fast. The faster you loop them the less power they have.
ste
ste

ste

WA

524 posts

25 Feb 2015 9:38am
How do you find the 7, does it catch you ok?
What surprised me was the jumping ability of this kite, but with all the advantages of other wave kites in turning, drift, and General allround freeride fun, the edges are a great kite, but lack in many other departments, but I know they are a race kite so to be expected.
skywalker3d
skywalker3d

VIC

228 posts

25 Feb 2015 5:44pm
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ste said..
How do you find the 7, does it catch you ok?
What surprised me was the jumping ability of this kite, but with all the advantages of other wave kites in turning, drift, and General allround freeride fun, the edges are a great kite, but lack in many other departments, but I know they are a race kite so to be expected.


They catch you fine if there is enough wind. I find they jump so good that they will get you up in the air in a under powered state. That's when the landing can be hard. But if there is enough wind (normal wind range for kite)they will lower you down on the water nice and soft. Unlike some other small kites i have use that get you up then just drop you
ralfy
ralfy

WA

55 posts

27 Feb 2015 11:37pm
I usually by older model kites, which allows me to do some testing without going broke. It seems though that this time i have to spend more than 1000 and get a pivot. or are there other kites with edge jump / hang attributes but with which you can dare to do backroll kiteloop transitions. Airush Variel X perhaps?
ste
ste

ste

WA

524 posts

3 Mar 2015 10:39pm
Got on the pivot 11 today, jeez that thing turns quick for an 11!boost was awesome also, having said that, was a bit windy for the 11 today, real grunty, but smooth kite.
CrashTestOZ
CrashTestOZ

QLD

76 posts

6 Mar 2015 6:08pm
Sounds like the Pivot is the star of this season. For those that have them could you share your size, your weight and wind range you use them in?


edugp
edugp

VIC

33 posts

11 Mar 2015 10:57pm
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CrashTestOZ said..
Sounds like the Pivot is the star of this season. For those that have them could you share your size, your weight and wind range you use them in?




77kg, using the 12m from 14 knots up to 21 knots, and the 10m probably 17-27 knots, but I didn't have time to test it properly.
skywalker3d
skywalker3d

VIC

228 posts

12 Mar 2015 11:30am
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CrashTestOZ said..
Sounds like the Pivot is the star of this season. For those that have them could you share your size, your weight and wind range you use them in?




I have a 7m 9m 11m.
85kg flat water free ride.
11m from 12k to 20k
9m from 15k to 25k
7m from 20k to 35k

This is the easy riding range for me can go higher and lower i guess depending on board size.

I have been using them since they first come out.
thorn
thorn

WA

172 posts

19 Mar 2015 1:58pm
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skywalker3d said..

CrashTestOZ said..
Sounds like the Pivot is the star of this season. For those that have them could you share your size, your weight and wind range you use them in?





I have a 7m 9m 11m.
85kg flat water free ride.
11m from 12k to 20k
9m from 15k to 25k
7m from 20k to 35k

This is the easy riding range for me can go higher and lower i guess depending on board size.

I have been using them since they first come out.


Same for me at 81kgs

ste
ste

ste

WA

524 posts

22 Mar 2015 4:33pm
Update on the 11-9 pivots, kite is a machine! Love these kites, power is soo smooth with plenty of it, jumping ability of this kite is excellent also, perfect amount of power in the pivoting turn on this kite.
Great bottom end, and top end, well it's a
Jumpathon, really would recommend this freeride, wave kite.
HappyG
HappyG

VIC

294 posts

23 Mar 2015 6:53pm
Skywalker - Just demoing a few kites and I will be trying the Naish Pivots.

What bar are you using with these kites, The Naish one with the below bar is a bit Naff.

I am thinking of getting a 11 & 8 as a 2 Kite Quiver. When the wind is light I tend to ride a surfboard.

I am coming fro Rebels, Any thoughts?
ste
ste

ste

WA

524 posts

23 Mar 2015 7:38pm
New fusion bar, excellent push away safety, below the bar depower works way smoother than on the older bars because the cleat juts out slightly, so resets real easy, all in all super happy.
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