Plummet said..

Next time your in nz. Plan a trip to the naki and put your money where your mouth is!. . . . . . . Well see who jumps highest.

December. Get yourself down to Christchurch

cauncy said..

TerryMcTool said...
The Edge and that style of inflatable kite was still used by heaps of riders in the formula board and TT racing in China, certainly by the majority of riders at least.

The Edge has been refined, bridles and reinforcements have been strengthened as much as they can without affecting performance, but adding weight, by adding reinforcements that look like they are doing something, while actually really only adding weight is always a bad thing for kite performance. The lighter a kite is the better it performs in light wind and direction changes/turning, as well as stability and gust control. Careful monitoring of the weight of a kite in the design and construction process, combined with a top design, produces crisp response and top performance that Edges are known for. Saw one of my mates in Sydney packing up his 9M 2011 Edge, its showing its age a bit (so is he!), but its still going strong and it looks like he will get another season from it!
D2, especially Teijin, is much better cloth, the way each fibre is coated then woven and then coated again as well as the extra ripstop thread is a huge improvement over any single ripstop cloth, even Teijin brand single ripstop.

And Eddy is still going huge on them, this clip is of the new Edge V8

Steve ,Seems a lot of new to racing kiters cut their teeth on edges or other brand equivalent
It'd be interesting to see time differences between the 2 ,foil r1 v edge lei ridden on the same course with same rider and board, I've owned each model apart from the latest and the they're a great kite, not flown another brand with that feel and it's hard when changing to not want some of that, IMHO now the foils are leading the way having them as a freeride might be the go, 7 and 9 have been my fave sizes in optimal winds

Yeah Mike from what I see around I'd agree, most people need to cut their teeth and learn to race, especially if they come from a non sailing background. A lot if not all of the top kite racers all have extensive experience in sailing, prior to kite racing.
Olly Bridge rode his Elf Joker6 proto in China in the formula board race and smoked the next guy on an inflatable. And if an LEI was used in a race with foil kites, it would be last and possibly lapped, thats how fast the foils are, they just have so much more VMG, there is no comparison from what I've seen.

By the way have you seen this video?

www.kingofwatersports.com/product/ozone-enduro-v1-2016-kite/ozone-2016-enduro-v1-kite

JacobMatan said..

Kamikuza said..

Plummet said..

Next time your in nz. Plan a trip to the naki and put your money where your mouth is!. . . . . . . Well see who jumps highest.

December. Get yourself down to Christchurch

you guys should film your epic kite battle maybe add in a little rocky theme music and post it up for the fair and just people of sea breeze to judge

Only if Terry and Milsy have the final votes.

Plummet said...
Massage eppo. He has a lot of experience with rebel v edge.

The airush lithium is worth a look. Bullet proof construction and great hang time. I have had a few rebels and find the airush provides a much softer landing.

Plummet said..

hahah.... But. Christchurch has less wind and swell and is protected from the glorious el nino spring westerlies by an entire mountain range. Why on earth would I want to fly away from epic conditions to gutless conditions? Kamikuza needs to come to where the actual wind is,,,,, ,,,,,

Step up mate.

Can you handle it?

No. Too much wave for me... maybe. Been to Christchurch, have you? If you head up Cheviot way there's a spot that gets waves like that, and there's always the other side of lake whatsitsname.

Better idea -- send me your Edge.

Wait -- is December springtime now?

Another better edit of Eddy Lansik's recent Edge V8 big air session with woo 18.2M measured jump

Gilly3 said..

flyingcab said..

I also have a fair bit of experience with the Ozone rebel. Fantastic kite.

Regards Rod.

Uummmm, yer oookay......

where can I demo one??

Sorry, thinking about 2 kites at the same time... North rebel

Never heard anyone call the lake flat before... but if 12ft rollers is what begins the definition of "wave" then I guess its true, the lake and the ocean here are flat. As a table.

To be fair the glory of my location has ruined me for going to other spots. Anywhere else I have been has always been worse than my local on a average day and doesn't even come close to comparing to it on a good day.

^
Jesus, is this from your own experience? 9 posts, very respectable.

Plummet said..
To be fair the glory of my location has ruined me for going to other spots. Anywhere else I have been has always been worse than my local on a average day and doesn't even come close to comparing to it on a good day.

I bet you get flat water between the waves too :(

If the weather station is to be believed, today we had 20 knots with peak gust of 34, which was about the time I decided I had enough. I was out on the S3 15... ****-off big jumps and endless float! Might even have photos. Wouldn't have been as good on my 10m by a long shot...

Plummet said..
Message eppo. He has a lot of experience with rebel v edge.

Damn plummett not sure I'd enjoy those Velcro gloves on my back ??

Add in there the 2015 dyno, best bar feel of all these kites mentioned For me anyway. Quickest of all these kites by a country mile to per size. This can be an issue when doing board offs though, gotta split the fingers around the depower. 10m is a sick size, 13 best for board offs.

Edge still goes bigger though than all those kites mentioned, especially when right on the edge of controllable power. bigger float wise, the dyno given its speed can afford a real vertical lift in the right conditions Given the same rider And board.

Rebel holds its **** together better than all the kites mentioned When really overpowered. Heaviest bar feel of the lot though, it's a little 'clunky' at times In the bigger sizes. Has more of a downwind vector pull, need to really control your edging, especially in the bigger sizes. Much more adaptable if say taking it in the waves, dyno the next best.

The new rebel in the bigger sizes has incredible float, dyno/edge like and much easier to access it as well (it's not a race kite). Less reactive on the bar throw when in the air.

With all that said haven't tried the V8 edge but would like to, still miss my edges. All that crazy power!

Boils down to personal feel, all these kites mentioned are great kites, so it all depends.

Dyno is not a one pump and that sucks major major Cock.

Summary, given say 13m and up, rebel 2016 for more advanced pure airstyle shenanigans, edge for long floaty powerful jumps and the dyno for a bit of both. 10m edge and dyno and crazy ass kites in 25 to 30, really dynamic, the rebel though is the most trustworthy and stable, but comes with higher bar pressure.

Theres no perfect solution, never will be.

Plummet said...
I'll put my rubber gloves on just for you eppo

Haha Eppo will love that. Probably the most excitement he will get after a 2 week north wa trip. Early season wind has totally sucked here.

Yep daves right I'd be pretty
Impartial to a touch of latex right now. Yeh had one superb day up there. One okay day. You know ya desperate when ya hitting bundegi every morning! Gero troughed out but we got a sneaky session in at separation point nothing to write home about... Yeh was **** alright but hey first world problems. It's a long season, onwards and upwards!