Lol ... Im sure this cant be true but.... Do they really think people going to pay 5kaud for a kite?

Can't it choose which fibre it identifies as

German shop vs Canadian base ???? Core propoganda machine firing

All dealers get theyre prices well before release date. People in this forum will know the rrp if a german shop is claiming too.

Its common to be able to load up your website with the new stock and just not display the images of the new stock / features etc

Dont let a windy day blow your caution away

Two words
"Cuben Fibre"

Definitely not Cuben fibre or anything like it. The problem Best had with Cuben was that they sewed it, and used a LE design that had 2 seams, the back one was flat on flat and was not strong at all under load. Cuben is spectra/dyneema fibres sandwiched in between polymer films.
From wiki
Cuben Fiber (CTF3), now marketed as a Dyneema Composite Fabric (DCF), is a high-performance non-woven composite material used in high-strength, low-weight applications. It is constructed from a thin sheet of UHMWPE("Dyneema") laminated between two sheets of PET (generic) or BoPET ("Mylar").
It is used in various applications that call for a fabric with high tensile strength, but where low weight is desirable, such as sails, tents, ultralight recreation equipment, etc.
The material was developed by the Cuben Fiber and Cubic Tech Corporations in the 1990s. In 2015, Cubic Tech was acquired by DSM, their supplier for the UHMWPE fiber. The product was subsequently renamed Dyneema Composite Fabric (DCF), a generic brand name DSM uses for all of their composite products which incorporate UHMWPE."

Have not been able to find much info about Aluula, but from the few hints we've found it seems to be a form of graphene fibre or another type of high modulus carbon fibre woven into a cloth and formed into a composite. We know OR have been working with the Aluula people for a couple of years testing this stuff and we are confident enough to stock it. We'll have a couple of demo kites in a couplathreeweeks.

Could be a game and wallet breaker.

Hay leigh when you were kicking it with bebe / carlos did you tell him to man up and start using fuels? I think its time he upgraded to a big boy kite to be honest

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causehecan said..
Hay leigh when you were kicking it with bebe / carlos did you tell him to man up and start using fuels? I think its time he upgraded to a big boy kite to be honest

Hahaha ,you been chatting to Horey.
Happy friendly young fella Carlos Mario.Tallented.
He tried using a 12m Rally GT that day,wind was lame 10kts.
other guys were on 15m with foils.

Demo kites here soon

Im sorry but ocean rodeo owes me a mouthful of martini i just Lost when that video claimed to be lighter then foil kites when your clearly saying alullluuu is 60gsm which is 2 to 3 times heavier then 20 gsm and 27 gsm because maths

Cant wait to see this ocean rodeo 12m less then 1.75 kg

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My apologies to your mate Martini

Harhaaaa homosexual jokes!
Blokes on blokes on blokes on blokes!! Your not a man til youve hit a man ay!

So what is a regular foil kite?

13m hyperlink v2 2.1kg its got a heap of cells cells equal weight and performance. Its also the least RACEING foil kite i could think of. Hopefully that fits the criteria?

Would be easier if we found a foil kite heavier then a inflatable useing 60gsm struts and leading edge. Then looking for one that isnt?

Im not even saying new ocean rodeo isnt lighter then a foil kite as they just claimed in that advert.

i just find it very hard to believe that something that weighs twice as much as one thing is somehow lighter.

It really should just come down to gsm and the gsm is written quite clearly i thought so now id just like to see the weight of a 13m or kite thats useing the alluuluu stuff

Causehe- I get your scepticism, everyone I have talked to is a little sceptical.
JZ: For years Ocean Rodeo have been working to refine and reduce the overall weight of kites - without sacrificing quality. The new 2020 kite line up built with conventional materials (coming August 12th) has a weight reduction per kite of between 6% to 12% when compared to the same size / model 2 years ago. The introduction of Aluula materials is the latest step in this process.

When we get these kites (Roam 10m and a Flite 14.5m for demoing) I can post the measured weight here for you.
Your more than welcome to see / try / weigh them for yourself.

Aluula Material:




Ocean Rodeo are initially rolling out with the Flite Black and Roam Black in Aluula construction later in the year.





There is some more info on the Ocean Rodeo website and Aluula website.
oceanrodeo.com/aluula/?v=7516fd43adaa
aluula.com/

Cost?

waterproof perhaps airtight, when will we see the first bladderless OR kites?

would be the biggest change in kite manufacturing since the bridal!

seamless simplicity where everything is glued and not stitched, good luck creating that glue. And Bunnings will sell it within 5 yrs for repairing upholstery.

Is theyre a doctor in the house?!? Simons having a stroke

Bladderless? No stitching just glue?!?

Bridals are terrible what the devil is going on here.

Bunnings?!?

Are you a bot that compiles all my posts and spits something out at random?

On the plus side, Ocean Rodeo offer 12 months interest free on any credit card so every1 can afford it. I'm pretty sure they are the first and only kite maker to do this.

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simon78 said..
waterproof perhaps airtight, when will we see the first bladderless OR kites?

would be the biggest change in kite manufacturing since the bridal!

seamless simplicity where everything is glued and not stitched, good luck creating that glue. And Bunnings will sell it within 5 yrs for repairing upholstery.

The bridal party has had a massive row and the marriage is not going ahead.

Will be interesting to see some of this tech flow into kites, and the Aluula material is definitely a step in the right direction for inflatable kites.
www.northsails.com/sailing/en/innovation/3di-technology

Any idea why we didnt see that tech in the new north kites? Is it because all these brands going to different layups of fabric meaning theyres plenty of d2 to go around so makes more sense to go with that for a first run? Whats the waiting list like on the 3Di? They booked out doing sails for years to come or will we see printed kites?

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EastCC said..
Causehe- I get your scepticism, everyone I have talked to is a little sceptical.
JZ: For years Ocean Rodeo have been working to refine and reduce the overall weight of kites - without sacrificing quality. The new 2020 kite line up built with conventional materials (coming August 12th) has a weight reduction per kite of between 6% to 12% when compared to the same size / model 2 years ago. The introduction of Aluula materials is the latest step in this process.

When we get these kites (Roam 10m and a Flite 14.5m for demoing) I can post the measured weight here for you.
Your more than welcome to see / try / weigh them for yourself.

Aluula Material:




Ocean Rodeo are initially rolling out with the Flite Black and Roam Black in Aluula construction later in the year.





There is some more info on the Ocean Rodeo website and Aluula website.
oceanrodeo.com/aluula/?v=7516fd43adaa
aluula.com/

Hey mate
Smik looking kite.
They definitely look the goods.

I am dubious about the LE material, as that is where the strength is really needed, and hence the most weight is also there, especially around the middle Strutt. I doubt this will be a game changer if they don't address the LE properties. Also, what about the bladder itself? Surely that can be improved on with something as strong as a bicycle tube but lighter. Will make repairs far cheaper and easier.

Surely that strength difference clearly shown (so 15 pound ripped the normal stuff and he just kept banging on weights on the new material) comprehensively shows this material is truly a game changer. Can anyone counter such obvious evidence ?

I wonder though if the lack of stretchability may provide conditions for major catastrophic blow out with the lack of give. ?

its the only possible problem I can see.

And all this great material how could is there actual kite profiles etc. and how does this material affect the bridling etc setups.

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eppo said..
Surely that strength difference clearly shown (so 15 pound ripped the normal stuff and he just kept banging on weights on the new material) comprehensively shows this material is truly a game changer. Can anyone counter such obvious evidence ?

I wonder though if the lack of stretchability may provide conditions for major catastrophic blow out with the lack of give. ?

its the only possible problem I can see.

And all this great material how could is there actual kite profiles etc. and how does this material affect the bridling etc setups.

I Was thinking the same thing, time will tell

Cabrinhas made theyre ripstop squares smaller. They have historically made very very cost efficient developments and progress.

I just wish i understood how material tore better so id know if smaller squares or more denier larger ones was more effective. I allready know if its too much ala 4x naish etc it seems to make the tear zig zag a bit rather then splitting from a to b but that to me is a more costly repair so not a benefit as such. I would prefer a A to B tear repair wise. Nice little line rather then a larger overlapping square.

What other industrys have this sort of thing going on? The gliders and chutes dont seem too because weight is such a crucial factor where as in kiteing weight hardly matters in comparison.

Maybe refugee tents? World welfare emergency pop up disaster relief offices etc many of them are inflatable aswell...

Any you guys into wingsuits and tracking suits etc? What are they doing?

In the interview with the Aluula rep, he mentioned that the material was for other applications, its just that kitesurfing offered the greatest range of negative conditions to prove its resilience (high hoop stress, UV exposure, sand, salt water)

North won't have had long enough as a company to come up with anything even if they had access to the material. I gather ocean rodeo have been experimenting on and off with prototypes for a couple of years and word on the street (from the dealers) is don't expect to be able to buy for another year. The good thing is Ocean rodeo seem very quality conscious (look at how long it took for the Shift bar to make it into the hands of customers from being announced (6-9 months) as they refined it based on last minute testing) so I wouldn't expect the usual bilge you sometimes get in new products (look at eleveights massive fabric changes between year one and year 2 products)

So north are doomed and ocean rodeo is awesome ... right, got it

Hmm. Maybe that does come across as a little rosie?

Somewhat. Although I to are especially positive about this new material.

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The gliders and chutes dont seem too because weight is such a crucial factor where as in kiteing weight hardly matters in comparison.

So now you are proclaiming that weight is no issue with kites. You really have no idea what you are talking about.