You're quoting the studies and figures, you post the links.


And you better act quick, they've declined from 5000 to 3500 in the last few posts.

Woodo said..

jbshack said..

The people with more credibility than a surf board and a computer estimate around 5000 only left in the world.. If thats the case how many do you think we can afford to cull

JB.... Are you telling porky pies...

Yeah sorry your right, if you own a computer and surfboard, then you would obviously know more

What's it matter. I posted the best possible solution this morning "current shark tagging in Australia" why don't we save our energy and rally to get this system in place at least something will get done.

I really doubt there will be a cull of sharks or seals so why waste time trying to find statistics.

Killing sharks and seals is just going to attract more sharks and also attract a public outcry.
I'm sure there are more shark lovers than haters in the world excluding Chinese!

It could even create some employment for the unemployed.

So lets focus on immediate protective measures for the time being.

jbshack said..



Sadly though humans are dumb, we keep feeding them from our boats teaching them to hang around for a easy meal

This i think is a major problem. They should have the same rules as whales , where you have to keep your distance

This may piss people off, but I feel it must be said. It is no more the shark???s fault that this man died than it is the ground???s fault when a skydiver dies or the road???s fault when someone dies in a car accident. There are sharks in the sea, and sharks sometimes take people???s lives. We know that when we enter the sea.

A few years ago, I would have been comforted by the thought of the shark hanging limp from a chain on a dock somewhere. I would have tried to convince myself that the blood dripping from its morbid mouth as it hung grotesquely next to ???brave??? shark hunters posing for heroic photographs would make things better. But it won???t. Does that make me a hypocrite for putting forth the opposite sentiment? Maybe, that???s up to you, but I don???t think so.


www.theinertia.com/surf/to-know-what-living-is-life-death-and-sharks-in-west-australia/

WA71 said..

This may piss people off, but I feel it must be said. It is no more the shark???s fault that this man died than it is the ground???s fault when a skydiver dies or the road???s fault when someone dies in a car accident. There are sharks in the sea, and sharks sometimes take people???s lives. We know that when we enter the sea.

A few years ago, I would have been comforted by the thought of the shark hanging limp from a chain on a dock somewhere. I would have tried to convince myself that the blood dripping from its morbid mouth as it hung grotesquely next to ???brave??? shark hunters posing for heroic photographs would make things better. But it won???t. Does that make me a hypocrite for putting forth the opposite sentiment? Maybe, that???s up to you, but I don???t think so.


www.theinertia.com/surf/to-know-what-living-is-life-death-and-sharks-in-west-australia/

I just read that elsewhere and was on my way to post it. A lovely sentiment IMHO

ausiet said..

Talking to a couple of mates this morning, trying to figure out why there are so many shark attacks on the west coast and so few on the East.

Comparatively, there are many more people in the water in the East coast, so you would think there should be more.

Is there something the East is doing/has done, or is it just the different water currents?? Maybe we just don't hear about the ones in the East so much?

Thoughts???.....

I have no idea. Could it be a size thing? It would seem we do have bigger Great Whites? Maybe as our beaches are a bit straighter, so in the east sharks would only bump into surfers if they swam in and out of bays?

That would be good to know.

jbshack said..

I have no idea. Could it be a size thing? It would seem we do have bigger Great Whites? Maybe as our beaches are a bit straighter, so in the east sharks would only bump into surfers if they swam in and out of bays?

That would be good to know.

Hilarious.

No NZ fur seals living up this way!

ausiet said..
Talking to a couple of mates this morning, trying to figure out why there are so many shark attacks on the west coast and so few on the East.

Comparatively, there are many more people in the water in the East coast, so you would think there should be more.

Is there something the East is doing/has done, or is it just the different water currents?? Maybe we just don't hear about the ones in the East so much?

Thoughts???.....

www.whitesharktrust.org/migration.html

You got it though.


What we should do is tag all the sharks we can with shock tags similar to the fence-less dog shock collars, then deploy a bunch of proximity buoys along the coast which will discourage the nasties from coming close.

Has anyone learnt anything they didn't no before from this thread?

I hope so!

RIP SHARK VICTIMS

November 23, 2013:

Surfer Chris Boyd, 35, was killed by a shark in the waters off Gracetown in WA's South West. The fisheries department issued an imminent threat order for the shark, saying there was a threat of more attacks in the area.

October 9, 2013:

A catch-and-kill order issued the day prior for the shark responsible for the attack on Greg Pickering was cancelled after no shark was sighted or caught.

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October 8, 2013:

Diver Greg Pickering was attacked by a shark about 180 kilometres east of Esperance. Mr Pickering was bitten on the leg by a shark in 2004.

April 2, 2013:

There were fears a shark may have attacked 24-year-old Martin Tann who disappeared from Mullaloo Beach.

January 9, 2013:

The first catch-and-kill order for a shark was made after repeated sightings of a large great white shark along Dunsborough beaches.

January 5, 2013:

A diver was bitten twice on the leg by a hammerhead shark 40 kilometres north of Dampier.

November 27, 2012:

The WA Fisheries Department publicly released guidelines as to the circumstances in which it would kill a shark it believed posed a risk to humans.

August 28, 2012:

Jon Hines, a 34-year-old surfer, survived a shark attack at a popular surf spot at Red Bluff, near Quobba Station, on the WA coast.

July 14, 2012:

Passionate young surfer Ben Linden was killed by a great white shark off Wedge Island, near Lancelin, north of Perth.

June 20, 2012:

Surf ski paddler Martin Kane, in his 50s, was tipped out of his craft by a three-metre shark at Mullaloo beach in Perth's north.

March 31, 2012:

Peter Kurmann, 33, died after an attack while diving off Stratham Beach, between Busselton and Bunbury.

Oct 22, 2011:

George Thomas Wainwright, a 32-year-old man from the US, was killed after being bitten by a great white shark while diving off Rottnest Island.

October 10, 2011:

Bryn Martin, 64, was likely taken by a great white shark after he was last seen about 350 metres from the shore heading out to sea on his daily swim at Cottesloe Beach.

September 4, 2011:

Kyle James Burden, 21, was killed while on his body board at Bunker Bay, near Dunsborough.

October 30, 2010:

A tour guide working for a dolphin encounter company was bitten by a shark near Garden Island.

August 17, 2010:

Nick Edwards died after a shark attacked him while he was surfing near Gracetown.

December 27, 2008:

Fisherman Brian Guest was taken by a great white while snorkelling at Port Kennedy.

July 21, 2007:

A teenage boy was attacked by a shark while snorkelling off Cocos Keeling Islands, about 2750 kilometres north-west of Perth.

May 16, 2007:

A woman was bitten on her calf while carrying her baby in the shallows at Warra Beach, south of Coral Bay, on the north-coast of WA.

January 16, 2006:

A scuba diver was attacked by a shark off a Perth beach as the occupants of a nearby boat tried to warn him about the shark.

October 14, 2005:

A four-metre shark menaced a surfboat and forced swimmers from the water at one of Perth's most popular beaches.

September 24, 2005:

A surfer punched a one-metre shark in the head when it attacked him about 120 metres off Perth's Scarborough Beach.

March 19, 2005:

A luxury boat skipper snorkelling off the West Australian coast was bitten in half near the Abrolhos Islands.

July 11, 2004:

Larrikin surfer Brad Smith, 29, died in a shark attack while surfing a popular reef off Gracetown in WA's Margaret River region.

March 7, 2004:

Professional diver Greg Pickering was bitten on the leg by a shark after trying to help a friend who was being attacked by a 1.5 metre bronze whaler off Cervantes in WA's north.

January 25, 2004:

A diver's legs were mauled by a three-metre shark south of Perth.

January 28, 2002:

A man was mauled by a shark at a river south of Perth, suffering a 15 centimetre wound to his inner thigh, requiring 21 stitches.

February 26, 2001:

A huge great white shark attacked a Perth couple's fishing boat just 200 metres from a popular swimming beach on WA's south-coast.

November 6, 2000:

Businessman and father of three Ken Crew, 49, died after his leg was torn off by what fisheries officers believe was a four-metre great white shark.

And there there are all the countless sighting and near misses .............. not mentioned here.
Surf skis bitten in half / engine ripped off young fellas boat

In Geraldton weve one hanging around in the bay 200m off the local beach ,thats turning up each spring , a diver fended it off, week later whilst SUPen off Sunset beach me and mate had the fker surface 200m out the back and cruise along with its dorsal fin as big as a 4x4 tyre ,then it was photoed in the bay munching on a some whale blubber all with in a month

What are the fisheries doing about that .............with all our revenue

Enough is enough

Human life and recreation before preservation of rough Great Whites......full fken stop

Yes most of us follow the news I'm sure? And if you went to the trouble to remind us by typing and researching the history well done. But the only problem is that your not really coming up with a awnser apart from a cull which we all know will not go ahead but thanks for your opinion and the stats , cheers king!

southace said..
Yes most of us follow the news I'm sure? And if you went to the trouble to remind us by typing and researching the history well done. But the only problem is that your not really coming up with a awnser apart from a cull which we all know will not go ahead but thanks for your opinion and the stats , cheers king!

I've already stated the answer a number of times, and it's dirt cheap.
The only problem is, it gets drowned out by a barrage of fog about apex predators and destroying the oceans and so much more highly improbable rubbish.

THE SOLUTION IS ;-
At regularly spaced intervals around the coast,
license a number of commercial fishermen
and issue a standing order
so that when there is an attack on someone
who is in an area which is a long established swimming, surfing or diving area,
they have immediate permission and authority
to get out there and bait the shark
catch it
and kill it.

There,.. I've set it out in simple logical steps.
Not very complex really, and yet it seems to be beyond the capacity of anyone to implement it.

If in 5 years time we have killed 20 sharks and the attacks have not diminsihed, then we can call in all the degreed and doctorated experts to tell us what they found by reading up stuff on the internet, and look at trying some of the difficult and expensive ideas that are now being suggested.