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southace
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14 Dec 2013 4:03pm
Kiterboy could you please confirm your legendary status with some photos of the bay at CI and perhaps a kite ?
jbshack
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14 Dec 2013 2:53pm
smicko said..

I find 27 tagged in 5 days a bit hard to swallow, I used to fish the snapper orgy a fair bit and as stated it's commonplace for three or four Whites to make pigs of themselves, to the point where they're lolling around like a drunken fat slapper at a teenage beach party.

But 27 different Whites over 3m in five days would be record breaking ****. Anywhere in the World.

Then again, maybe that's why we're the shark attack capital of the World.

Still can't believe one of these stupid ****s on kayaks hasn't been nailed at the Snapper orgy yet.


If you work on a few GUEST-IMATE figures..


So over a 5 day period how many of the sharks in the area do you think Fisheries could actually see, et alone tag? Lets play on the silly side and say a qtr…(i would think that a reasonable guess and welcome anyone else to through out a number). SO if they tagged 27 sharks that would mean over a 5 day period there would be around 108 Great White sharks over three meters of our coast…I just find it so hard to comprehend...

Also if you read the CSIRO report as of 6th of June they said since 2000 the WA fisheries had only tagged 6 Great white's in total.

Oh and SMicko did you read the latest death in Hawaii was a kayak fisherman
rbl
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14 Dec 2013 2:54pm
If everyone stops replying here except for jb and suckface then maybe this thread can stop.
jbshack
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14 Dec 2013 2:57pm
I point i have asked many times to date is why is no one running any polls regarding what the people want..

I thought id share this one with you incase you missed it. Its in the Mandurah Times site if you want your say..





southace
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14 Dec 2013 5:33pm
rbl said..

If everyone stops replying here except for jb and suckface then maybe this thread can stop.


Oh welcome rbl u seem nice.

Jesus[u]
youngbull
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14 Dec 2013 10:06pm
rbl said..

If everyone stops replying here except for jb and suckface then maybe this thread can stop.




Darn you I had to log in just to green thumb ya. So I may aswell comment now.

kiterboy
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15 Dec 2013 5:41pm
*crickets chirping...
jbshack
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15 Dec 2013 5:59pm
jbshack said..

I point i have asked many times to date is why is no one running any polls regarding what the people want..

I thought id share this one with you incase you missed it. Its in the Mandurah Times site if you want your say..






In case you missed it Kiteboy..Your in the minority
busterwa
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15 Dec 2013 6:02pm
Its not about what people want its about public saftey .Good bait the ****ers about time the goverment did somthing All these tree hugging hippe ****whitts that dont go in the water can go **** themselves aswel.. .
jbshack
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15 Dec 2013 6:36pm
So he is saying they will also kill Tigers and Bull sharks..

Remember Barnett said they would dump the bodies at sea. If they start killing constant and dumping, as well as the original baiting, we will soon be all surfing in a huge constant burley trail

But one question if 15 over the last 5 days, why have they not eaten anyone? If Sharks are all about eating people? Surely they could have got a few today

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/20321918/15-sharks-qualified-for-cull/

Chinese whispers. Last week a 2.5 meter great white was reported to SLSWA in Mindarie. On Sat morning a lady in a beach PT group said she didn't want to go into the water because a 5 mtr shark was just sighted in Mindarie harbour
southace
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15 Dec 2013 9:15pm
And 12 GWS have been knocked on the head.......what an effort hope they saved the jaws for the black market!
Might as well import some coke
Jesus
kiterboy
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16 Dec 2013 12:38am
jbshack said...
jbshack said..

I point i have asked many times to date is why is no one running any polls regarding what the people want..

I thought id share this one with you incase you missed it. Its in the Mandurah Times site if you want your say..






In case you missed it Kiteboy..Your in the minority


Ah bugger.

Hang on, care to tell me which minority I'm in on that list???
Kneeling
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16 Dec 2013 7:32am
Hey Jb do you know how the sharks feed.Do they come back to get a good feed from the same place like we do,and if they did float a few back out would the others start to realizse that were catching them again and stay away,like we reacted to the 9/11 and Bali bombings,stopped travelling to the danger areas?
jbshack
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16 Dec 2013 3:13pm
Kneeling said..

Hey Jb do you know how the sharks feed.Do they come back to get a good feed from the same place like we do,and if they did float a few back out would the others start to realizse that were catching them again and stay away,like we reacted to the 9/11 and Bali bombings,stopped travelling to the danger areas?


I guess we will have to wait and see won't we..

But somehow i don't think sharks feel empathy so if they see a few dead sharks, seals, fish what ever by catch is dumped, I personally think that would teach them to hang around for a easy feed

Then remember this is with in 1 km of shore. So when they start dumping dead fish and they drift, Which way will they float
jbshack
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16 Dec 2013 3:15pm
kiterboy said..


jbshack said...

jbshack said..

I point i have asked many times to date is why is no one running any polls regarding what the people want..

I thought id share this one with you incase you missed it. Its in the Mandurah Times site if you want your say..






In case you missed it Kiteboy..Your in the minority



Ah bugger.

Hang on, care to tell me which minority I'm in on that list???


Well id say your in the 2.2% and if your saying your not, then i guess your just a troll, like i said earlier

Either way mate I'm I'm in the 73%
kiterboy
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16 Dec 2013 3:58pm
jbshack said..

kiterboy said..


jbshack said...

jbshack said..

I point i have asked many times to date is why is no one running any polls regarding what the people want..

I thought id share this one with you incase you missed it. Its in the Mandurah Times site if you want your say..






In case you missed it Kiteboy..Your in the minority



Ah bugger.

Hang on, care to tell me which minority I'm in on that list???


Well id say your in the 2.2% and if your saying your not, then i guess your just a troll, like i said earlier

Either way mate I'm I'm in the 73%


I'd ask you to show where I've thrown my support in favour of baiting.

I'd ask, but seeing how you lack any kind of logic and reading skills, I know it'd be wrong to expect you to be able to back up what you claim.


So since we're throwing around baseless claims, I know that you like to dress up in a crotchless mermaid outfit and pretend you're goddess of the ocean, at night in your bathtub and use a latex shark as your boyfriend.
kiterboy
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16 Dec 2013 4:00pm
jbshack said..

Either way mate I'm I'm in the 73%



And you would have been in the 73% who thought the Earth was the centre of the universe, in the time of Copernicus.

Luckily time culls unenlightened thought patterns.

southace
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16 Dec 2013 6:48pm
Haha you must get real bored over there kiterboy at the processing plant......have you been googling porn fetishes now the shark thread has gone quite!!

Jesus

kiterboy
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16 Dec 2013 4:22pm
southace said..

Haha you must get real bored over there kiterboy at the processing plant......have you been googling porn fetishes now the shark thread has gone quite!!

Jesus




You should learn how to research southy, it'd help stop you passing yourself off as ignorant as you do.


Jesus
southace
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16 Dec 2013 6:56pm
U cut and paste my Jesus how lazy of you.....worn out after a days paper work ha?
kiterboy
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16 Dec 2013 4:35pm
southace said..

U cut and paste my Jesus how lazy of you.....worn out after a days paper work ha?


You working the ocean like a boss must make hard to keep up with posting your ignorance on SB, lucky you can reach the computer from the bathtub, must be hard to type in that latex shark suit though.
ThinkaBowtit
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16 Dec 2013 4:51pm
jbshack said..

I point i have asked many times to date is why is no one running any polls regarding what the people want..

I thought id share this one with you incase you missed it. Its in the Mandurah Times site if you want your say..







I'm always suss when poll responses add up to more than 100%

jbshack
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16 Dec 2013 5:43pm
ThinkaBowtit said..


jbshack said..

I point i have asked many times to date is why is no one running any polls regarding what the people want..

I thought id share this one with you incase you missed it. Its in the Mandurah Times site if you want your say..







I'm always suss when poll responses add up to more than 100%



I posted the link but you could click on more than one choice..

Its really almost the only Poll i was able to find. I even emailed the TV channels, radio stations why they are not running polls this time round. I got one reply saying no point as they always end up very much one sided..I guess that also means not displaying the answers they were wanting

Its very simple, the majority simply do not support a Cull in any form..
Ctngoodvibes
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16 Dec 2013 5:58pm
^^^^^
The majority of over 60 year old mandurah pensioners that actually read the mandurah times.
(Suggestion: not sure this represents the general public)
kiterboy
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16 Dec 2013 6:04pm
jbshack said...
ThinkaBowtit said..


jbshack said..

I point i have asked many times to date is why is no one running any polls regarding what the people want..

I thought id share this one with you incase you missed it. Its in the Mandurah Times site if you want your say..







I'm always suss when poll responses add up to more than 100%



I posted the link but you could click on more than one choice..

Its really almost the only Poll i was able to find. I even emailed the TV channels, radio stations why they are not running polls this time round. I got one reply saying no point as they always end up very much one sided..I guess that also means not displaying the answers they were wanting

Its very simple, the majority simply do not support a Cull in any form..


Or quite simply, you've posted a completely worthless set of figures.

Again.
jbshack
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16 Dec 2013 7:24pm
kiterboy said..


jbshack said..


kiterboy said..



jbshack said...


jbshack said..

I point i have asked many times to date is why is no one running any polls regarding what the people want..

I thought id share this one with you incase you missed it. Its in the Mandurah Times site if you want your say..






In case you missed it Kiteboy..Your in the minority




Ah bugger.

Hang on, care to tell me which minority I'm in on that list???



Well id say your in the 2.2% and if your saying your not, then i guess your just a troll, like i said earlier

Either way mate I'm I'm in the 73%



I'd ask you to show where I've thrown my support in favour of baiting.

I'd ask, but seeing how you lack any kind of logic and reading skills, I know it'd be wrong to expect you to be able to back up what you claim.


So since we're throwing around baseless claims, I know that you like to dress up in a crotchless mermaid outfit and pretend you're goddess of the ocean, at night in your bathtub and use a latex shark as your boyfriend.


SO do you support a Cull? Or do you think we should leave the sharks alone like me


pweedas
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16 Dec 2013 7:39pm
I would have to agree with the kiteboy. (even though I suspect he might be a kiter.)
Again, it seems they have made up a poll to specifically ignore the most logical action, and that is a targeted removal of the offending sharks.
Why wasn't that option listed? Apart from the fact that it's the most obvious solution.

What sort of idiot would NOT want them to keep on closing beaches when there were sharks around?
What sort of idiot would NOT want them to keep on warning people of shark sightings?
(Yes I know, there's lots of kinds, so just list two or three.)

And how would you catch an offending shark? You would probably bait it, unless you were lucky enough to have it jump into your boat, and then you could stuff it with tuna so it died of a tummy ache. But then that's not likely is it?

They could have made the poll much more meaningful by addiing the option "Remove trhe offending shark".
But no. Let's keep everything obscure,. and usual.
southace
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16 Dec 2013 11:48pm
How's about Ben crops view on shark drums


surferstu
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16 Dec 2013 10:34pm
pweedas said..

I would have to agree with the kiteboy. (even though I suspect he might be a kiter.)
Again, it seems they have made up a poll to specifically ignore the most logical action, and that is a targeted removal of the offending sharks.
Why wasn't that option listed? Apart from the fact that it's the most obvious solution.

What sort of idiot would NOT want them to keep on closing beaches when there were sharks around?
What sort of idiot would NOT want them to keep on warning people of shark sightings?
(Yes I know, there's lots of kinds, so just list two or three.)

And how would you catch an offending shark? You would probably bait it, unless you were lucky enough to have it jump into your boat, and then you could stuff it with tuna so it died of a tummy ache. But then that's not likely is it?

They could have made the poll much more meaningful by addiing the option "Remove trhe offending shark".
But no. Let's keep everything obscure,. and usual.


Anyone that's well educated can see that that survey is flawed because the questions are skewed and not neutral like they are supposed to be
kiterboy
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17 Dec 2013 10:47am
jbshack said..

SO do you support a Cull? Or do you think we should leave the sharks alone like me



Any response to the perceived problem needs to be measured.

Doing nothing is obviously the most useless response.


I'm of the belief that any approach needs to be multi-tiered;

Personal protection devices need much more investment and development as I believe there is a lot of potential to develop measures that are unequivocally effective.

Obviously much more research needs to be done on shark behaviour, travels and the effect that close contact with humans is having/has had on them.

Early warning systems and beach protection/deterrent systems need to be researched and developed as well.

I don't believe that culling should be out of the question, but it needs to be approached in a responsible way, again, research into its effectiveness and ability to target the 'right' sharks, and even if there is a 'right' shark to target etc


All of these measures will obviously have different time delivered payoffs, but all need to be looked at, as there will be no one fix all measure, whether it's culling, tagging or any personally championed method, to think so shows a level of mental simplicity that is astounding.


So many polarized views due to ego, personal opinion and vested interests getting in the way, makes this a hard subject to discuss in a logical and rational way.
Something of this complexity needs a holistic approach.


But as you said previously, this is a discussion forum only, you're not here to try and find a solution; so why have the discussion at all?
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