15 years - be out in 5 years for the person who threw the stone.

Of course not going to happen - but it should. He could have killed the guy easily.

Attempted murder charge - why not?


au.news.yahoo.com/disgusting-moment-grandfather-bashed-rock-smoke-break-005218405.html

So you do engage in main stream media?

No,my sister told me about this so I googled the story.

I've seen the cctv footage
made me want to torture the farking scumbag with a oxy torch for a week
in fact I'd pay good money for the privilege , absolute scum of the earth, poor bloke was only waiting to start his car detailing shift then this f.....g piece of shidt does this to him

I remember as kids partaking in Monday madness, where we would go wild and egg people or throw milk shakes at cyclists, or splash old ladies on the way to bingo in the puddles at the time it's just for a laugh but **** me house prices must of dropped. Mugging someone's a whole new level. Except this time my mates stole a prostitutes hand bag and ended up with a **** load of johnnys crabs and no cash !

I'd be a fan of bringing back the stocks for people of this calibre.

Then they can serve their jail term after that.

Yep a spell in the stocks then hung, drawn and quartered

The old bloke went back to work! Full respect dig

The problem in this matter, is that they are a certain minority so its our fault. Serves the bloke right for daring to sit there having a cigarette that they wanted.

Steal car, smash blokes face in, take his stuff, then steal fuel for stolen car and repeat.
No doubt it is everyone else's fault.

Its daily, this one just happened to make the news,

Yeah, it's only minorities that are **** hey!

mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-29/rhian-lee-ryan-facebook-rapist-sentenced-to-five-years-jail/10952964?pfmredir=sm

^^^ who said that? Who said only minorities?
Its a shame 3% of the population commits far more crime. Maybe soft sentencing (given the fact we have done to death all the prevention, hugs, counselling, diversion, assistance, free kicks, love, blah blah that we can) has a bit to do with it.

Your example only proves that PM33 has a point about light sentencing. Societal problem with social media, and boys watching hardcore porn thinking all gals are their plaything. Combined with soft sentencing.
That's what you should be harping on about, not the fact I noticed 3% are over represented in violent crime.

If it was your granddad... or your daughter raped by a FB monster...

That's a sad fact Mark.
And I know it's true .
I'm a bit surprised nobody has blamed the smoker & made it his fault yet after all he is a smoker & let's face it it's the only group of people that can be discriminated against since the nazis got into it .

It has nothing to do with minorities mark, you just like to bring it up time and time again though. I was just showing you that if you actually look, there's bad people everywhere.

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Mark _australia said..
The problem in this matter, is that they are a certain minority so its our fault.

Don't be such a ****ing idiot.

^^^ Wasn't it you who claimed , when shown a video of a certain group bashing people in Perth, that despite the overwhelming statistics, told us all that we are just racist? That it simply was not true?

Wasn't it you who claims Crolnulla was 100% the fault ONLY of racist far right Nazi farkheads?

That is ****ing idiotic.

Wake up Loggy.

But fk it I'll bite:

Logman what is the answer to such violent crime, and are certain groups over-represented?
You are quick to mention women are over-represented as victims of DV, so lets talk about the stats for offenders' races and socio-economic status shall we?

No insults.... just factual stuff, and a defensible position - go.

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Mark _australia said..
But fk it I'll bite:

Logman what is the answer to such violent crime, and are certain groups over-represented?
You are quick to mention women are over-represented as victims of DV, so lets talk about the stats for offenders' races and socio-economic status shall we?

No insults.... just factual stuff, and a defensible position - go.

OK, can we have some ground rules for this debate? No insults......just factual stuff?

I'll umpire. Coin toss?

No videos by stupid internet "opinion makers"

You have not offered your opinion logman on the length of any sentence were they to be caught?

The length of that sentence was about 18 words

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log man said..

Mark _australia said..
But fk it I'll bite:

Logman what is the answer to such violent crime, and are certain groups over-represented?
You are quick to mention women are over-represented as victims of DV, so lets talk about the stats for offenders' races and socio-economic status shall we?

No insults.... just factual stuff, and a defensible position - go.

OK, can we have some ground rules for this debate? No insults......just factual stuff?

You're answering a question with a question.

I'll simplify it for you.

Its OK for you and others to mention women are over-represented as victims in domestic violence.
But it is not OK for me to mention aborigines are over-represented as offenders ... is that correct?


Next question: how do we stop the latter (if indeed they are over-represented as offenders)?

It's ok for me and others to mention women are overrepresented as victims of in domestic violence..............because that's a fact.....you're interested in facts so let's chalk that one up.

so the next issue. Are Indigenous people over represented as offenders.........personally I don't know....I would assume so. but let's see what experts say.

Don't bring race into this
this is a **** either black or white
i have no difference in feeling I'd love to discipline this piece of crap, I'm struggling to see how something could do such a farking miserable act to someone, actually distressed me a fair bit

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log man said..
It's ok for me and others to mention women are overrepresented as victims of in domestic violence..............because that's a fact.....you're interested in facts so let's chalk that one up.

so the next issue. Are Indigenous people over represented as offenders.........personally I don't know....I would assume so. but let's see what experts say.

www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/4517.0~2016~Main%20Features~Imprisonment%20rates~12

I'd say the ABS are experts at crunching numbers?

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Mark _australia said..

log man said..

Mark _australia said..
But fk it I'll bite:

Logman what is the answer to such violent crime, and are certain groups over-represented?
You are quick to mention women are over-represented as victims of DV, so lets talk about the stats for offenders' races and socio-economic status shall we?

No insults.... just factual stuff, and a defensible position - go.

OK, can we have some ground rules for this debate? No insults......just factual stuff?

You're answering a question with a question.

I'll simplify it for you.

Its OK for you and others to mention women are over-represented as victims in domestic violence.
But it is not OK for me to mention aborigines are over-represented as offenders ... is that correct?


Next question: how do we stop the latter (if indeed they are over-represented as offenders)?

Must of been lefties.......

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Chris6791 said..

log man said..
It's ok for me and others to mention women are overrepresented as victims of in domestic violence..............because that's a fact.....you're interested in facts so let's chalk that one up.

so the next issue. Are Indigenous people over represented as offenders.........personally I don't know....I would assume so. but let's see what experts say.

www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/4517.0~2016~Main%20Features~Imprisonment%20rates~12

I'd say the ABS are experts at crunching numbers?

They are indeed experts and those numbers are horrific.

My best mate worked as a chippie in an Aboriginal comunity for a couple years.
we talk a lot.
I used to think I had an affectionate opinion .
Poor them , overtaking us .
Its not quite like that.
It seems to be a catastrophic sh.t fight amongst themselves and us white ghosts.
Even though I have feelings about this situation, I have no answers.
In the past there have been many techniques used and none worked.
It's a Ying yang thing .
Like mixing oil and water.

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log man said.. They are indeed experts and those numbers are horrific.

Agreed.

So is it now OK for us to talk about the rampant crime committed by a certain segment, who obviously need help and what we are doing as a society is not helping? What is also horrific is somebody will walk up to a bloke doing nothing and smash his face in for a cigarette or $10, and then not care they are on CCTV stealing fuel in a stolen car. The interesting part is not caring about the CCTV - no fear of being caught at all.
Or am I just being racist?

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Mark _australia said..

log man said.. They are indeed experts and those numbers are horrific.

Agreed.

So is it now OK for us to talk about the rampant crime committed by a certain segment, who obviously need help and what we are doing as a society is not helping? What is also horrific is somebody will walk up to a bloke doing nothing and smash his face in for a cigarette or $10, and then not care they are on CCTV stealing fuel in a stolen car. The interesting part is not caring about the CCTV - no fear of being caught at all.
Or am I just being racist?

Well...........why would you want to divide into "segments" ........and for what purpose. If you're like Myusername and call Aborigines fxcking Cxnts then what's your agenda? Do you come to the issue of high Aboriginal crime rates in good faith then cool, but if you're going to use the crime rates as some sort of IQ/ race realism battering ram, then nuh!
Your intent is very important.

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log man said..

Mark _australia said..

log man said.. They are indeed experts and those numbers are horrific.

Agreed.

So is it now OK for us to talk about the rampant crime committed by a certain segment, who obviously need help and what we are doing as a society is not helping? What is also horrific is somebody will walk up to a bloke doing nothing and smash his face in for a cigarette or $10, and then not care they are on CCTV stealing fuel in a stolen car. The interesting part is not caring about the CCTV - no fear of being caught at all.
Or am I just being racist?

Well...........why would you want to divide into "segments" ........and for what purpose. If you're like Myusername and call Aborigines fxcking Cxnts then what's your agenda? Do you come to the issue of high Aboriginal crime rates in good faith then cool, but if you're going to use the crime rates as some sort of IQ/ race realism battering ram, then nuh!
Your intent is very important.

LOL.
That's up there with your most nonsensical deflective responses ever.

"Well...........why would you want to divide into "segments" ........and for what purpose."

The stats are showing the 'segments' and their proportions in relation to the topic at hand, not Mark.
That's what stats are for. Duh.

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kiterboy said..

log man said..

Mark _australia said..

log man said.. They are indeed experts and those numbers are horrific.

Agreed.

So is it now OK for us to talk about the rampant crime committed by a certain segment, who obviously need help and what we are doing as a society is not helping? What is also horrific is somebody will walk up to a bloke doing nothing and smash his face in for a cigarette or $10, and then not care they are on CCTV stealing fuel in a stolen car. The interesting part is not caring about the CCTV - no fear of being caught at all.
Or am I just being racist?

Well...........why would you want to divide into "segments" ........and for what purpose. If you're like Myusername and call Aborigines fxcking Cxnts then what's your agenda? Do you come to the issue of high Aboriginal crime rates in good faith then cool, but if you're going to use the crime rates as some sort of IQ/ race realism battering ram, then nuh!
Your intent is very important.

LOL.
That's up there with your most nonsensical deflective responses ever.

"Well...........why would you want to divide into "segments" ........and for what purpose."

The stats are showing the 'segments' and their proportions in relation to the topic at hand, not Mark.
That's what stats are for. Duh.

maybe you just don't understand.

what are you going to do with the segments of the stats........that's the real question. i thought i made that clear