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Subsonic said..
They used to cover this level of mathematics in primary school, im wondering if thats still the case.

Do you really think they do nothing in Maths classes??? FFS

Knock yourself out k10outline.scsa.wa.edu.au/home/teaching/curriculum-browser/mathematics-v8

You might want to jump to the General Capabilities:
Numeracy
Students become numerate as they develop the knowledge and skills to use mathematics confidently across all learning areas at school and in their lives more broadly. Numeracy involves students in recognising and understanding the role of mathematics in the world and having the dispositions and capacities to use mathematical knowledge and skills purposefully.Mathematics has a central role in the development of numeracy in a manner that is more explicit and foregrounded than is the case in other learning areas. It is important that the Mathematics curriculum provides the opportunity to apply mathematical understanding and skills in context, both in other learning areas and in real world contexts. A particularly important context for the application of Number and Algebra is financial mathematics. In Measurement and Geometry, there is an opportunity to apply understanding to design. The twenty-first century world is information driven, and through Statistics and Probability students can interpret data and make informed judgments about events involving chance.

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hilly said..

Subsonic said..
They used to cover this level of mathematics in primary school, im wondering if thats still the case.

Do you really think they do nothing in Maths classes??? FFS

Knock yourself out k10outline.scsa.wa.edu.au/home/teaching/curriculum-browser/mathematics-v8

So how the hell do we come to the point where they can't add up few coins???

FFS, Adding money is basic basic sh!t, not rocket science.

I was trying to teach a 14 year old girl how to catch public transport a few years ago, but she could not read an analog clock and connect that with the timetable.

School had failed her, though this is most likely the fault of the education system in relation to her than any individual teacher.

She could however regurgitate social justice and identity politics mantra as a way of not taking any responsibility for her situation or future.

Ok guys pm me and come to my school and I will introduce you to the future. They are articulate, numerate, visionary and a pleasure to be around. All 1500 of them. Well maybe not the whole lot but at least 90%

What is your school's name?

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TonyAbbott said..
What is your school's name?

Not on a public forum. PM me

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hilly said..
Ok guys pm me and come to my school and I will introduce you to the future. They are articulate, numerate, visionary and a pleasure to be around. All 1500 of them. Well maybe not the whole lot but at least 90%

Im sure they are. Im sure they are capable of mathematics that i will never understand.

My problem lies with the view that basic addition skills (and apparently the generations that predate current school kids according to a couple of posters) are obsolete, they are not.

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hilly said..
Ok guys pm me and come to my school and I will introduce you to the future. They are articulate, numerate, visionary and a pleasure to be around. All 1500 of them. Well maybe not the whole lot but at least 90%

Im sure they are. Im sure they are capable of mathematics that i will never understand.

My problem lies with the view that basic addition skills (and apparently the generations that predate current school kids according to a couple of posters) are obsolete, they are not.

You can test them on whatever you like.

Schools & teachers still teach the basics, our children's future will not be your past and the sun will rise tomorrow... whether you understand it or not. The older we get, the closer to death (being obsolete) we become. For many this fact can be difficult to reconcile, as can be witnessed throughout this thread.

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Brent in Qld said..
Schools & teachers still teach the basics, our children's future will not be your past and the sun will rise tomorrow... whether you understand it or not. The older we get, the closer to death (being obsolete) we become. For many this fact can be difficult to reconcile, as can be witnessed throughout this thread.

Very well put.

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TonyAbbott said..
I was trying to teach a 14 year old girl how to catch public transport a few years ago, but she could not read an analog clock and connect that with the timetable.

School had failed her, though this is most likely the fault of the education system in relation to her than any individual teacher.

She could however regurgitate social justice and identity politics mantra as a way of not taking any responsibility for her situation or future.

Once again, what is that to do with school? My parents taught me to tell the time and to use public transport. Stop bashing schools for the failure of parents. Blimey, you'll be telling me your kids can't tie their laces, knot a tie or comb their hair, "cos the school failed them".

The teacher spent to much time reading the green left weekly and not the curriculum

au.news.yahoo.com/aussie-school-forced-apologise-teaching-students-wrong-course-102031994.html

Hey tones, didn't you say you were a teacher? If so, please re-read your sentence. Schooling must've been terrible way back in your day. You can't even write properly.

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Hey tones, didn't you say you were a teacher? If so, please re-read your sentence. Schooling must've been terrible way back in your day. You can't even write properly.

I have never said I was a teacher, I am not extreme leftwing enough to be one.

Your teachers must have failed you by not teaching you to read properly. My teachers failed me too and never taught me to right gooder england.

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When some students were writing an essay about a storm that caused significant coastal erosion, I asked them what they think might happen if the seas rose a couple of

Might not have said teacher, but this certainly implied it.

Got the heads up on this one from one of the daughter's mates ................ being able to count money is so yesterday

I just read on Facebook that they are now going to have an adult day in schools teaching how to pay bills change a tyre etc .
The department of education must read seabreeze

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actiomax said..
I just read on Facebook that they are now going to have an adult day in schools teaching how to pay bills change a tyre etc .
The department of education must read seabreeze

If it is on Facebook it must real

This from the UK, but it is the same rubbish some teachers here are teaching to our children

www.thesun.co.uk/news/7991146/primary-school-pupils-boys-periods-too-sex-education/

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Brent in Qld said..
Schools & teachers still teach the basics, our children's future will not be your past and the sun will rise tomorrow... whether you understand it or not. The older we get, the closer to death (being obsolete) we become. For many this fact can be difficult to reconcile, as can be witnessed throughout this thread.

That is so well put.

Being around teneagers every day I can attest to the wisdom of the words above.

They are far more intuitive, quick thinking and dynamic than we ever were.

And it can make you feel soooo old and out of date being around it day in day out.

The rest of you are complete pretenders who are talking out ones ass without enough direct experience to really have an informed opinion.

Ive had more informed intelligent, balanced discussions with 14 yr old students than what I've read here.

You idiots pick a few random experiences and make a conjecture that the entire generation can't do
basic maths.

Ask me I can teach over 100 students in one day and I can tell you they can do basic maths just fine...and some!!

There has always those that can't do maths well.

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eppo said..

Brent in Qld said..
Schools & teachers still teach the basics, our children's future will not be your past and the sun will rise tomorrow... whether you understand it or not. The older we get, the closer to death (being obsolete) we become. For many this fact can be difficult to reconcile, as can be witnessed throughout this thread.

That is so well put.

Being around teneagers every day I can attest to the wisdom of the words above.

They are far more intuitive, quick thinking and dynamic than we ever were.

And it can make you feel soooo old and out of date being around it day in day out.

The rest of you are complete pretenders who are talking out ones ass without enough direct experience to really have an informed opinion.

Ive had more informed intelligent, balanced discussions with 14 yr old students than what I've read here.

You idiots pick a few random experiences and make a conjecture that the entire generation can't do
basic maths.

Ask me I can teach over 100 students in one day and I can tell you they can do basic maths just fine...and some!!

There has always those that can't do maths well.

No ,your the closed mind .

Its those who can't do maths or spell or speak well that need the basics .
You know the ones you put at the back of the class and pretend their not there and then upgrade them each year when they should repeat .
I heard some schools even give them the day off when naplan comes around .
If they are lucky they get a job as a sales assistant oops hang on how do they work the register if given cash . na it's ok they can do calculus and know how to google.

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Bananabender said..

eppo said..

Brent in Qld said..
Schools & teachers still teach the basics, our children's future will not be your past and the sun will rise tomorrow... whether you understand it or not. The older we get, the closer to death (being obsolete) we become. For many this fact can be difficult to reconcile, as can be witnessed throughout this thread.

That is so well put.

Being around teneagers every day I can attest to the wisdom of the words above.

They are far more intuitive, quick thinking and dynamic than we ever were.

And it can make you feel soooo old and out of date being around it day in day out.

The rest of you are complete pretenders who are talking out ones ass without enough direct experience to really have an informed opinion.

Ive had more informed intelligent, balanced discussions with 14 yr old students than what I've read here.

You idiots pick a few random experiences and make a conjecture that the entire generation can't do
basic maths.

Ask me I can teach over 100 students in one day and I can tell you they can do basic maths just fine...and some!!

There has always those that can't do maths well.

No ,your the closed mind .

Its those who can't do maths or spell or speak well that need the basics .
You know the ones you put at the back of the class and pretend their not there and then upgrade them each year when they should repeat .
I heard some schools even give them the day off when naplan comes around .
If they are lucky they get a job as a sales assistant oops hang on how do they work the register if given cash . na it's ok they can do calculus and know how to google.

And they end up posting sad dialogues on forums as grumpy old men.

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eppo said..

The rest of you are complete pretenders who are talking out ones ass without enough direct experience to really have an informed opinion.

Ive had more informed intelligent, balanced discussions with 14 yr old students than what I've read here.

You idiots pick a few random experiences and make a conjecture that the entire generation can't do
basic maths.

Ask me I can teach over 100 students in one day and I can tell you they can do basic maths just fine...and some!!

There has always those that can't do maths well.

Did they teach you how to make everyone think you're a complete knob in just a few short sentences, or did you work that one out for yourself?

Well not everyone thinks he's a complete knob. The idiots are clearly idiots and are unhappy they couldn't be taught, so they blame teachers. If the 30 odd teachers they were taught by couldn't teach them much it's probably not the education systems fault.

I was given an education a long time ago. Well before the green left totalitarian take over of schools and universities.

I was not indoctrinated in green left ideology like many kids are today at the expense of an education.

That does make me grumpy, as it should any reasonable person.

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hilly said..

Bananabender said..

eppo said..

Brent in Qld said..
Schools & teachers still teach the basics, our children's future will not be your past and the sun will rise tomorrow... whether you understand it or not. The older we get, the closer to death (being obsolete) we become. For many this fact can be difficult to reconcile, as can be witnessed throughout this thread.

That is so well put.

Being around teneagers every day I can attest to the wisdom of the words above.

They are far more intuitive, quick thinking and dynamic than we ever were.

And it can make you feel soooo old and out of date being around it day in day out.

The rest of you are complete pretenders who are talking out ones ass without enough direct experience to really have an informed opinion.

Ive had more informed intelligent, balanced discussions with 14 yr old students than what I've read here.

You idiots pick a few random experiences and make a conjecture that the entire generation can't do
basic maths.

Ask me I can teach over 100 students in one day and I can tell you they can do basic maths just fine...and some!!

There has always those that can't do maths well.

No ,your the closed mind .

Its those who can't do maths or spell or speak well that need the basics .
You know the ones you put at the back of the class and pretend their not there and then upgrade them each year when they should repeat .
I heard some schools even give them the day off when naplan comes around .
If they are lucky they get a job as a sales assistant oops hang on how do they work the register if given cash . na it's ok they can do calculus and know how to google.

And they end up posting sad dialogues on forums as grumpy old men.

Me! Grumpy ,Sad. ?
Hang On I'll ask my lawyer.
Well he's says I'm perhaps a bit Grumpy when I see mediocrity being passed off as modern teaching at the expense of those kids not so gifted.
Sad dialogues . Nothing sad about speaking the truth unless of course it does not fit in with the way you see life through your Rose coloured glasses.
By the way a famous Latin Scholar is quoted as saying it's a sign of weakness to attack the author instead of his writings.
. I'm sure you are aware of whom I refer . Right?

In answer to the thead title question which lacked a question mark, my opinion is NO.

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Bananabender said..

hilly said..

Bananabender said..

eppo said..

Brent in Qld said..
Schools & teachers still teach the basics, our children's future will not be your past and the sun will rise tomorrow... whether you understand it or not. The older we get, the closer to death (being obsolete) we become. For many this fact can be difficult to reconcile, as can be witnessed throughout this thread.

That is so well put.

Being around teneagers every day I can attest to the wisdom of the words above.

They are far more intuitive, quick thinking and dynamic than we ever were.

And it can make you feel soooo old and out of date being around it day in day out.

The rest of you are complete pretenders who are talking out ones ass without enough direct experience to really have an informed opinion.

Ive had more informed intelligent, balanced discussions with 14 yr old students than what I've read here.

You idiots pick a few random experiences and make a conjecture that the entire generation can't do
basic maths.

Ask me I can teach over 100 students in one day and I can tell you they can do basic maths just fine...and some!!

There has always those that can't do maths well.

No ,your the closed mind .

Its those who can't do maths or spell or speak well that need the basics .
You know the ones you put at the back of the class and pretend their not there and then upgrade them each year when they should repeat .
I heard some schools even give them the day off when naplan comes around .
If they are lucky they get a job as a sales assistant oops hang on how do they work the register if given cash . na it's ok they can do calculus and know how to google.

And they end up posting sad dialogues on forums as grumpy old men.

Me! Grumpy ,Sad. ?
Hang On I'll ask my lawyer.
Well he's says I'm perhaps a bit Grumpy when I see mediocrity being passed off as modern teaching at the expense of those kids not so gifted.
Sad dialogues . Nothing sad about speaking the truth unless of course it does not fit in with the way you see life through your Rose coloured glasses.
By the way a famous Latin Scholar is quoted as saying it's a sign of weakness to attack the author instead of his writings.
. I'm sure you are aware of whom I refer . Right

Said by a sad old man who has never been in a school and his limited exposure to youth is via the news sites who want to sell advertising. You have no feckn idea.

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hilly said..

Bananabender said..

hilly said..

Bananabender said..

eppo said..

Brent in Qld said..
Schools & teachers still teach the basics, our children's future will not be your past and the sun will rise tomorrow... whether you understand it or not. The older we get, the closer to death (being obsolete) we become. For many this fact can be difficult to reconcile, as can be witnessed throughout this thread.

That is so well put.

Being around teneagers every day I can attest to the wisdom of the words above.

They are far more intuitive, quick thinking and dynamic than we ever were.

And it can make you feel soooo old and out of date being around it day in day out.

The rest of you are complete pretenders who are talking out ones ass without enough direct experience to really have an informed opinion.

Ive had more informed intelligent, balanced discussions with 14 yr old students than what I've read here.

You idiots pick a few random experiences and make a conjecture that the entire generation can't do
basic maths.

Ask me I can teach over 100 students in one day and I can tell you they can do basic maths just fine...and some!!

There has always those that can't do maths well.

No ,your the closed mind .

Its those who can't do maths or spell or speak well that need the basics .
You know the ones you put at the back of the class and pretend their not there and then upgrade them each year when they should repeat .
I heard some schools even give them the day off when naplan comes around .
If they are lucky they get a job as a sales assistant oops hang on how do they work the register if given cash . na it's ok they can do calculus and know how to google.

And they end up posting sad dialogues on forums as grumpy old men.

Me! Grumpy ,Sad. ?
Hang On I'll ask my lawyer.
Well he's says I'm perhaps a bit Grumpy when I see mediocrity being passed off as modern teaching at the expense of those kids not so gifted.
Sad dialogues . Nothing sad about speaking the truth unless of course it does not fit in with the way you see life through your Rose coloured glasses.
By the way a famous Latin Scholar is quoted as saying it's a sign of weakness to attack the author instead of his writings.
. I'm sure you are aware of whom I refer . Right

Said by a sad old man who has never been in a school and his limited exposure to youth is via the news sites who want to sell advertising. You have no feckn idea.

There you go again ,attack the the writer.Then again its what your taught
to teach .