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Mobydisc said..

However I've noticed lately when paying for an item the default payment is now electronic. Even when I pull out cash to pay for a transaction, the cashier pulls out the electronic payment machine and starts keying in the transaction. Most probably within 5 years if one pays a transaction in cash, it will be considered to be quite weird and archaic.

I think we are already there. I went to buy some groceries yesterday and I got annoyed at the elderly women in front of me that was paying with cash. How dare she!

Its a bit funny how you just get used to something and forget what the old normal was.

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hilly said..

Bananabender said..
I am really starting to wonder if schools are so entrenched on Global Warming , Political Correctness etc. the basics are being swept under the carpet.
Three months ago I went to Maccas for a snack. The bill was $5.40.
I gave the young girl (14 or thereabouts) 2x$2 and 3x50 cents.
She held them out in her palm and looked at me and asked how much was that. I had to tell her $5.50 so she could enter it in the cash register . I was very polite but felt like calling the manager over.
Today I had a similar experience with a young bloke at woollies.
He did not know how to count up the coins to enter in the register.
Talk about a cashless society .

Great research you have there. Two isolated examples from check out operators you extrapolate out to a whole generation of youth. I think every generation has a dim view of those that follow. Was not like that in my day yada yada.
Go to a school and check the Maths they do now. You might be in for a surprise.

Couldn't give a stuff about the maths I'm talking about the lack of teaching basic skills like counting coins.In respect to giving 21.50 for a 16.50 bill my wife has told me numeral times not to as a lot of young people employed as cashiers just can't understand why you would give 21.50 for a 16.50 bill.

Um, so you get a 5er back and don't have to carry the shrapnel?

The stores like it too. Anyone that's worked behind the counter realises how quickly the change goes when everyone just keeps handing you $20 or $50 notes.

I had a similar thing with the pizza delivery on Friday night. The cost was $34, I gave the delivery guy $50 note, but he only had a $20 and a $10 note and didn't want to give it to me as it didn't add up. Fair enough, so I gave him another $5 and asked for the $20 but that had him stumped for a few minutes, till I explained he was $1 better off, but he couldn't work that out.

Maybe kids should play cards for money, like I did, to learn faster basic addition.

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Poida said..
Maybe kids should play cards for money, like I did, to learn faster basic addition.

we played cards for our easter chocolate, and then xmas presents, before graduating to cash (thanks grandad )


on this note, part of the problem is probably a little bit video games and gaming technology. Senate committee just found how the gamers are now using pokie type tech and strategies to encourage repeat customers/addiction and maximising profits. Strategies like disassociating monetary value from the value system in the games and their rewards or in game purchasing, has got to be affecting everyday understanding of use of cash and transaction at some level...

but i mostly agree with Agent Nods - practice leads to competence, and so if the OP has just copped some new employees, they won't have practiced it enough yet. the over generalisation about the youth of today is rubbish imo and a few of you just sound like grumpy old men haha

My son wasn't good at maths..not sure if it was his school to blame.. so I am his tutor... anyway, currently going through maths workbook grade 5 with him, there is money counting exercise on every second page.

Many school teachers are very political, they are happy when their students preach and regurgitate scripture from the church of climate change.

But they will not teach them the difference between anthropological global warming and natural climate change.

They will not teach them that sea level change is relative to land height, that rising seas can also be cause by land subsiding. Or that in some parts of Australia, relative sea level is falling, due to land uplift. Teachers don't ask students if the current sea level is normal, or if there is even a 'normal' sea level. For many teachers, critical thought means agreeing with the Greens.

Most students think co2 is called carbon, teachers are not teaching students that there are differences between carbon, co and co2, so long as they keep regurgitating the churches mantra.

When some students were writing an essay about a storm that caused significant coastal erosion, I asked them what they think might happen if the seas rose a couple of metres. Their response was that we will all die!!!!! not increased erosion, or higher sea walls, or some infrastructure will be lost, or one of many outcomes.....just we all are going to die. Most teachers don't correct this type of ridiculous thinking, they just think 'great', the student 'understands'.

Many teachers are failing students in becoming informed active citizens and turning into mindless political drones.

Tony you're a bloody disgrace. Piss off back to the seminary where real indoctrination occurs.

If Monoploy was played a bit more it would teach more children how to handle cash.

The other stuff is great but there is too much of it, more of the basics is needed

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TonyAbbott said..

Many teachers are failing students in becoming informed active citizens and turning into mindless political drones.

What proof do you have???

Sounds like you have an opinion. Been listening to to talkback radio have you?

Kids might be better educated but f......he'll have any a decent amount of common sense today, things are just too easy today,

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cauncy said..
Kids might be better educated but f......he'll have any a decent amount of common sense today, things are just too easy today,

Have to disagree, work with 1600 everyday. Full range from fully switched on to the polar opposite but 90 % are awesome. Yep they are naive but so were we. The future is in good hands.

Gotta get the basics kids schit shower shave and go to work

Who uses cash these days? It's all about credit cards/ eftpos etc.

Its not money anymore, its just numbers that your boss gives you for being at work.

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hilly said..What proof do you have???

TonyAbbott said..

Many teachers are failing students in becoming informed active citizens and turning into mindless political drones.

Sounds like you have an opinion. Been listening to to talkback radio have you?

No proof required when ideology overturns reason.

Wifey helps out at the local school canteen. Some kids in year 6 come with a fistful of coins but don't know what it can buy them. Wifey shakes her head in dismay constantly.

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lotofwind said..
Maybe we should go back to your guys days, when everything was sooo much better, and give the check out kids an abacus. lol
Notes and coins will not exist soon anyway, most people now already just pay wave or tap their phone. Simples Counting coins is a thing of the past. I cant even remember the last time I had old school money in my wallet ?? Not needed anymore.

Jolly good thing it's not occurred to anyone to exert control over people! Oh wait a minute I seem to recall some stuff ........

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Adriano

No proof required when ideology overturns reason.

That's my point

Get your own

I gave primary evidence in my post, not that you would have read it....... because.....ideology, reason

Many others here have seen kids that can not add numbers yet teachers want us to believe they understand complex climate data

pfft....nope

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TonyAbbott said..Many others here have seen kids that can not add numbers yet teachers want us to believe they understand climate data, pfft....nope

Adriano

No proof required when ideology overturns reason.

Any evidence for that being pervasive or is it just more ideological nonsense from a right wing hack?

I suppose you understand more about scientific data than the experts - the scientists?

Come on now Tony, when are you going to trot out your belief that climate change is a huge socialist conspiracy?

Or is it quote "absolute crap" unquote.

If the sea levels rise a few meters we will be dead. We are already in the middle of a major extinction event, caused by us. Guess what? If everything around us dies we will too. If the seas rise due to natural movements of the earths crust that's one thing. If it rises due to humans polluting the eco system that is the world and we change it enough to get into the meters of sea level rises we are truly ****ed.

You have a problem with kids that can't count. I have a problem with ignorant people who are doing nothing good for this world. Those kids don't need to know the the science behind man made climate change. There's scientist who are more than capable of understanding it, they think we're on a trajectory for demise. Every single kid that thinks man made climate change is real is smarter than you tony abbott. You are a disgrace.

When they excavate viking sites they start at 2 m above current sea levels 1000 years ago , most of our pre historic history is drowned by post ice age flooding , when you could walk to Tasmania .

I little off my original post but I have a real problem with what young kids are taught regarding global warming and what they think we ,as Australians, can do about it. I believe that there is an assumption in the younger generations that if we achieve 100% carbon free in Australia and ensure not one piece of plastic is thrown into waterways the world will be saved. Well the facts are carbon emissions would reduce by less than 1% worldwide ,in fact probably not reduce at all as some countries emissions are going up . I also am amused that a lot of those running around the countryside shouting for reduced emissions are the same ones who go to Bali etc. each year and help create the unholy mess on their beaches and streets.
Chinas carbon emissions are continuing to increase , South east Asia and China are responsible for 90%+ of plastics in our Oceans.
I believe Global warming is probably manmade but jumping up and down and indoctrinating Aussie kids will do nothing .
Go to China and wave the flag where it will do some good.

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If the sea levels rise a few meters we will be dead. We are already in the middle of a major extinction event, caused by us. Guess what? If everything around us dies we will too. If the seas rise due to natural movements of the earths crust that's one thing. If it rises due to humans polluting the eco system that is the world and we change it enough to get into the meters of sea level rises we are truly ****ed.

You have a problem with kids that can't count. I have a problem with ignorant people who are doing nothing good for this world. Those kids don't need to know the the science behind man made climate change. There's scientist who are more than capable of understanding it, they think we're on a trajectory for demise. Every single kid that thinks man made climate change is real is smarter than you tony abbott. You are a disgrace.

Are you a teacher?

Wife is. If my kids were taught by you we would pull them from the school. We'd never send them to a ****ty religious school anyway.

That whole bs about us not having an impact is crap. We as a country are one of the worst for clearing land, coal exports etc. This is our responsibility to fix. The science is well and truly in, doesn't matter what you believe. This is a whole world problem that takes everyone to resolve. As a country we cause more damage than we should be. Sure there are worse, not many though. Developed nations that we would like to associate with think we are doing a **** job.

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TonyAbbott said..
Many school teachers are very political, they are happy when their students preach and regurgitate scripture from the church of climate change.

But they will not teach them the difference between anthropological global warming and natural climate change.

They will not teach them that sea level change is relative to land height, that rising seas can also be cause by land subsiding. Or that in some parts of Australia, relative sea level is falling, due to land uplift. Teachers don't ask students if the current sea level is normal, or if there is even a 'normal' sea level. For many teachers, critical thought means agreeing with the Greens.

Most students think co2 is called carbon, teachers are not teaching students that there are differences between carbon, co and co2, so long as they keep regurgitating the churches mantra.

When some students were writing an essay about a storm that caused significant coastal erosion, I asked them what they think might happen if the seas rose a couple of metres. Their response was that we will all die!!!!! not increased erosion, or higher sea walls, or some infrastructure will be lost, or one of many outcomes.....just we all are going to die. Most teachers don't correct this type of ridiculous thinking, they just think 'great', the student 'understands'.

Many teachers are failing students in becoming informed active citizens and turning into mindless political drones.

Ha ha evidence
When? where? how old where the students? Teachers quote? etc etc

Have a look at the curriculum and you will see things like:

Scientific understanding, including models and theories, is contestable and is refined over time through a process of review by the scientific community (ACSHE157) & (ACSHE191)

That was your opinion of something that might have happened or you made up to support you opinion.

"Scientific understanding, including models and theories, is contestable......"

I am glad we both agree

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mclovin said..
Wife is. If my kids were taught by you we would pull them from the school. We'd never send them to a ****ty religious school anyway.

That whole bs about us not having an impact is crap. We as a country are one of the worst for clearing land, coal exports etc. This is our responsibility to fix. The science is well and truly in, doesn't matter what you believe. This is a whole world problem that takes everyone to resolve. As a country we cause more damage than we should be. Sure there are worse, not many though. Developed nations that we would like to associate with think we are doing a **** job.

Well we are the fourth largest producer of coal but so stupid we don't use it ourselves and export most of it . From what I just read we produce 40% of what the US does .
Land clearing in Qld. seems out of control if you selectively listen.
What countries are those we want to associatewith ,surely not European where Nuclear and Oil is the go. USA.? Is China developed yet ? Russia? I know NZ.

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TonyAbbott said..
"Scientific understanding, including models and theories, is contestable......"

I am glad we both agree

Far more reliable than your position which is an ideological misunderstanding, excluding models but full of unsubstantiated theories and is highly contestable.

It might have something to do with why your own party gave you the sack.

You're a total failure Tony but mate, you sure do provide us with plenty of entertainment.

Keep it up budgie smuggler.