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Sup44 said..
The V4 is a game changer.

- V4: great wing, lighter than V3, but still durable. Pumps like the V2 but better handles and more performance-oriented. The V4 sacrifices slight upwind ability vs. V3, but the improved low wind more than makes up for it. And still better upwind than any other wing I've tried

Curious what conditions you ride and your weight. Purchased a 4 and 5m and gotta say, at 88kg in heavy chop and winds 15-30, I've found these to have no low end, light feel off the wind, heavy upwind, dead in transitions, night mare unstable waterstarting. The only time they feel good is in steady wind fully lit and flat water. Used the 4m in 25-35 and flatwater and it felt good, but in typical 20-30, it finds every lull and the draft moves around as I go up and down swell/chop. The 5m needs 20-25, but I need it to work 12-25! Maybe it'd be better with rigid handles (still not available) as the soft ones don't feel aligned with the power especially for upwind.... About the only good thing I can say, is if you hate a wing like the Unit that pulls off the front hand and prefers to be underpowered, this is a much lighter and back hand type wing. So maybe if you're riding a midlength or are not a heavy weight, then it would be great.

try before you buy seems the call lately as the wings are getting very specialized.

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Hwy1North said..

Sup44 said..
The V4 is a game changer.

- V4: great wing, lighter than V3, but still durable. Pumps like the V2 but better handles and more performance-oriented. The V4 sacrifices slight upwind ability vs. V3, but the improved low wind more than makes up for it. And still better upwind than any other wing I've tried

Curious what conditions you ride and your weight. Purchased a 4 and 5m and gotta say, at 88kg in heavy chop and winds 15-30, I've found these to have no low end, light feel off the wind, heavy upwind, dead in transitions, night mare unstable waterstarting. The only time they feel good is in steady wind fully lit and flat water. Used the 4m in 25-35 and flatwater and it felt good, but in typical 20-30, it finds every lull and the draft moves around as I go up and down swell/chop. The 5m needs 20-25, but I need it to work 12-25! Maybe it'd be better with rigid handles (still not available) as the soft ones don't feel aligned with the power especially for upwind.... About the only good thing I can say, is if you hate a wing like the Unit that pulls off the front hand and prefers to be underpowered, this is a much lighter and back hand type wing. So maybe if you're riding a midlength or are not a heavy weight, then it would be great.

try before you buy seems the call lately as the wings are getting very specialized.

V3 or v4? I bought a v3 5.5m last year and definitely did not like it because of the lack of low end and how it likes to stall out in transitions. There was also this ridiculous divergence between what people were saying about the wing online vs what actual people who paid for one i met at the beach said about it. (Pretty much exclusively positive online and vice versa on the beach). The v3 definitely is a bit more durable than the v2 though and rides upwind better.

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miamiwngr said..

Hwy1North said..

Sup44 said..
The V4 is a game changer.

- V4: great wing, lighter than V3, but still durable. Pumps like the V2 but better handles and more performance-oriented. The V4 sacrifices slight upwind ability vs. V3, but the improved low wind more than makes up for it. And still better upwind than any other wing I've tried

Curious what conditions you ride and your weight. Purchased a 4 and 5m and gotta say, at 88kg in heavy chop and winds 15-30, I've found these to have no low end, light feel off the wind, heavy upwind, dead in transitions, night mare unstable waterstarting. The only time they feel good is in steady wind fully lit and flat water. Used the 4m in 25-35 and flatwater and it felt good, but in typical 20-30, it finds every lull and the draft moves around as I go up and down swell/chop. The 5m needs 20-25, but I need it to work 12-25! Maybe it'd be better with rigid handles (still not available) as the soft ones don't feel aligned with the power especially for upwind.... About the only good thing I can say, is if you hate a wing like the Unit that pulls off the front hand and prefers to be underpowered, this is a much lighter and back hand type wing. So maybe if you're riding a midlength or are not a heavy weight, then it would be great.

try before you buy seems the call lately as the wings are getting very specialized.

V3 or v4? I bought a v3 5.5m last year and definitely did not like it because of the lack of low end and how it likes to stall out in transitions. There was also this ridiculous divergence between what people were saying about the wing online vs what actual people who paid for one i met at the beach said about it. (Pretty much exclusively positive online and vice versa on the beach). The v3 definitely is a bit more durable than the v2 though and rides upwind better.

Agree, the online reports were wildly positive and the in water reports were marginal. I do love my 2m v3 strike because it's tiny and has zero low end, but I knew that when I got it. My 3m v3 was quite technical and while it was a good wing when on foil, I don't think it deserves the gamechanger label it got when released. It's just a solid upwind wing that lacks low end.

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miamiwngr said..

Hwy1North said..

Sup44 said..
The V4 is a game changer.

- V4: great wing, lighter than V3, but still durable. Pumps like the V2 but better handles and more performance-oriented. The V4 sacrifices slight upwind ability vs. V3, but the improved low wind more than makes up for it. And still better upwind than any other wing I've tried

Curious what conditions you ride and your weight. Purchased a 4 and 5m and gotta say, at 88kg in heavy chop and winds 15-30, I've found these to have no low end, light feel off the wind, heavy upwind, dead in transitions, night mare unstable waterstarting. The only time they feel good is in steady wind fully lit and flat water. Used the 4m in 25-35 and flatwater and it felt good, but in typical 20-30, it finds every lull and the draft moves around as I go up and down swell/chop. The 5m needs 20-25, but I need it to work 12-25! Maybe it'd be better with rigid handles (still not available) as the soft ones don't feel aligned with the power especially for upwind.... About the only good thing I can say, is if you hate a wing like the Unit that pulls off the front hand and prefers to be underpowered, this is a much lighter and back hand type wing. So maybe if you're riding a midlength or are not a heavy weight, then it would be great.

try before you buy seems the call lately as the wings are getting very specialized.

V3 or v4? I bought a v3 5.5m last year and definitely did not like it because of the lack of low end and how it likes to stall out in transitions. There was also this ridiculous divergence between what people were saying about the wing online vs what actual people who paid for one i met at the beach said about it. (Pretty much exclusively positive online and vice versa on the beach). The v3 definitely is a bit more durable than the v2 though and rides upwind better.

V4. Maybe as the canopy stretches it will start to feel more balanced... but I'd say your take on the v3 and mine on the v4 are the same. Interestingly, after I placed the order, I watched two vids of non shop employees comparing the Strike to the Swing and they both preferred the Swing.

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Hwy1North said..

Sup44 said..
The V4 is a game changer.

- V4: great wing, lighter than V3, but still durable. Pumps like the V2 but better handles and more performance-oriented. The V4 sacrifices slight upwind ability vs. V3, but the improved low wind more than makes up for it. And still better upwind than any other wing I've tried

Curious what conditions you ride and your weight. Purchased a 4 and 5m and gotta say, at 88kg in heavy chop and winds 15-30, I've found these to have no low end, light feel off the wind, heavy upwind, dead in transitions, night mare unstable waterstarting. The only time they feel good is in steady wind fully lit and flat water. Used the 4m in 25-35 and flatwater and it felt good, but in typical 20-30, it finds every lull and the draft moves around as I go up and down swell/chop. The 5m needs 20-25, but I need it to work 12-25! Maybe it'd be better with rigid handles (still not available) as the soft ones don't feel aligned with the power especially for upwind.... About the only good thing I can say, is if you hate a wing like the Unit that pulls off the front hand and prefers to be underpowered, this is a much lighter and back hand type wing. So maybe if you're riding a midlength or are not a heavy weight, then it would be great.

try before you buy seems the call lately as the wings are getting very specialized.

Huh interesting. I'm 90KGs. It's true that the Strike v4 is still better in high end, while the Swing is better for low end (but gets real twitchy / nervous in high end). That said, I have still found the V4 to have far more low end than the v3.

I have been using the 3.5M Strike in 22-26 with no problem, but the wind has definitely been consistent. Maybe try the 4.5?