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dan berry said...

And as a bonus dave ezzy is one of the nicest, laid back, most hospitible people on the planet[}:)]
You keep prowling wave panther.

Although trying to ignore your expected replies on this topic Fly boy, I have to agree. [}:)]
If you ever have any questions about the sails, you can flick Dave Ezzy an email and he'll answer it the next day and he will keep replying until he knows you have the answer you're after. No dealing with some sales rep knob who wouldn't know a sail if it was shoved up their arse.

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WINDY MILLER said...

ezzys maybe good sails, but a bit of extra thought in the artwork dept req'd.

Agreed. Although I wear a leopard skin rashie to grab the attention that my sails fail to do.

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no sails are bomb proof [}:)]

Maybe not, but a pounding today took a few inches off the tail of my board and my Ezzy came up shiny as ever.

You should flick him an email and ask what he was smoking when he came up with the name wave panther

He just has to remember next time not to ask Austin Powers or Ron Burgundy to name a line of sails for him.

How'd it happen qwerty, Shorey? I never actually got a sail in, went downhill MTB'ing and it took me about an hour to clean my bike...not the smartest choice after a week of rain haha.

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dan berry said...

You should flick him an email and ask what he was smoking when he came up with the name wave panther

Compares fairly well with w^nky names like NP's V6 and V8 , and was it Drops who had "2 stroke" and "4 stroke" boards a few years ago?
Not to mention F2 wave Guerrilla with tiger stripes (most guerillas wear camo, not orange tiger stripe?), Starboard Kombat, NP Combat and then camo all over some harnesses and some boards (Tabou?)


my new range of boards will be the "3000cc twin turbo rebel force assault vehicle"

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Mark _australia said...

dan berry said...

You should flick him an email and ask what he was smoking when he came up with the name wave panther

Compares fairly well with w^nky names like NP's V6 and V8 , and was it Drops who had "2 stroke" and "4 stroke" boards a few years ago?
Not to mention F2 wave Guerrilla with tiger stripes (most guerillas wear camo, not orange tiger stripe?), Starboard Kombat, NP Combat and then camo all over some harnesses and some boards (Tabou?)


my new range of boards will be the "3000cc twin turbo rebel force assault vehicle"

good topic Mark.... strange names for boards and sails....why?

mistral joker ?
starboard evil twin ?
naish flying pig?
severne blade?

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WINDY MILLER said...

Mark _australia said...

dan berry said...

You should flick him an email and ask what he was smoking when he came up with the name wave panther

Compares fairly well with w^nky names like NP's V6 and V8 , and was it Drops who had "2 stroke" and "4 stroke" boards a few years ago?
Not to mention F2 wave Guerrilla with tiger stripes (most guerillas wear camo, not orange tiger stripe?), Starboard Kombat, NP Combat and then camo all over some harnesses and some boards (Tabou?)


my new range of boards will be the "3000cc twin turbo rebel force assault vehicle"

good topic Mark.... strange names for boards and sails....why?

mistral joker ?
starboard evil twin ?
naish flying pig?
severne blade?

Joker weird
Evil Twin .... clever kinda cos it is a twin
Flying Pig.... well it was kinda fat and porky looking
Severne Blade.... hmmm flat setting

so I'll pay the last three.

How about North... not really weird names but most of theirs have been a bit strange like Ice etc. But Dr-X takes the cake, I think it was just an excuse to get girls dressed up in nurses uniforms for the advertising (no complaints here)

hows it evil?
what naughty things has it been up to?

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WINDY MILLER said...

hows it evil?
what naughty things has it been up to?

Should be evo twin

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nobbie said...

Graham Ezzy such a good sailor.

imagine how great he could be with a decent sail in his hands!

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WINDY MILLER said...

hows it evil?
what naughty things has it been up to?

You don't want to know.

Ezzys are always easily the most debated in these "sail comparison" topics aren't they?

There are 3 types of Ezzy lover:

1. Swears that Ezzy sails are the best, but has never really tried anything else.

2. Swears that Ezzy are the best but has niggling doubts somewhere in the back of mind. Then again, David Ezzy says they're the best so they must be!

3. Knows that Ezzy sails are a compromise for the sake of toughness, but toughness is the highest priority and willing to sacrifice performance "cos they last".

simmer severne sailworks neilpryde ezzy north gaastra ka goya naish aerotech vandal sails they all have good strong lines, of sails in there lineups.

Hmmmm.... yeah George they all do have "stronger model" in their range but that means it is a bit stronger by their standards..... it doesn't mean that particular model is strong compared to other brands

Also, a quality mono sail is stronger than a quality X-ply ....... mono comes in different thicknesses and the gluing and stitching is important. You can feel the differences in thickness when you put them side by side.

What Leech says has merit: many people pick Ezzy, which may have a tiny bit less range or may not feel as nice, because they last so long.

Howeevr, I do think a lot of Ezzy knockers may have tried them and not rigged them right: they set very differently to most sails. If you ahve been on NP for years and try an Ezzy of course it will feel wrong ... and vice versa!

PS: Leech, I was a number 2 person - but with Simmer. They are bl00dy strong but my style of sailing suits another brand. That particular brand has the luff sleeve wear out with holes in it in 3 seasons (if not 2 seasons ) but it feels nicer to me. On the Simmers I have hammered the sh!t out of them for 4 seasons and they are still fine. Rigged almost exclusively in gravel carparks, smashed by very hollow waves, landed on them with the harness hook over and over again, and as a heavyweight I always rig them overpowered.
Do I pick the cheaper sail that lasts forever, or the one that is 15% more expensive and will last for 20% LESS time. Hmmmmm.

Its the feel, its the vibe, its Mabo, its everything.

Sails performance is a very personal thing. I think of it as a sails "feel" rather than performance. But I'm really lucky in that I like the feel of the Tush Rocks and a bonus is they use a thickish monfilm and theyre quite strong so for me it's a win win situation.
I learn't many years ago there's nothing worse than ripping a brand new lightweight super responsive sail and then having to sit out the next 5 days of epic conditions while it gets repaired!!! or have a cr4p session underpowered using the next size down in your quiver.

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Rider5 said...


I learn't many years ago there's nothing worse than ripping a brand new lightweight super responsive sail and then having to sit out the next 5 days of epic conditions while it gets repaired!!! or have a cr4p session underpowered using the next size down in your quiver.

Shutup!

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Leech said...

Rider5 said...


I learn't many years ago there's nothing worse than ripping a brand new lightweight super responsive sail and then having to sit out the next 5 days of epic conditions while it gets repaired!!! or have a cr4p session underpowered using the next size down in your quiver.

Shutup!

Actually that comment had nothing to do with your misfortune, as I didn't think the Blades were lightweight in construction. It was from my own personal experience.

Put any sail on those rocks, let the waves wash over it for a few seconds and the outcome would be ugly.

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Leech said...

Put any sail on those rocks, let the waves wash over it for a few seconds and the outcome would be ugly.

I trashed a tushy rock on that same spot

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FilthyAmatuer said...

Leech said...

Put any sail on those rocks, let the waves wash over it for a few seconds and the outcome would be ugly.

I trashed a tushy rock on that same spot

How ironic

rocks 1 : rock 0

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Leech said...

There are 3 types of Ezzy lover:

snip dross .....

3. Knows that Ezzy sails are a compromise for the sake of toughness, but toughness is the highest priority and willing to sacrifice performance "cos they last".

Arrant crap!

Performance is a preference thing. The Ezzies retain their shape and don't spring flat when depowered. Some people don't like this. They like their sail to go FLAT in the bottom turn and gybe. Others hate the way those springy sails power on and off in gusty wind. I prefer the Ezzies. They are superior bump and jump sails. They depower fine for what I want.

I tried a Loft Lip a while back. It was similar to the Ezzy as far as power/depower goes but it had superior stability. It has better range because of that. It felt more like a slalom sail - stable and rangy and power on. If you like that kind of sail you should check them out. I was comparing it with an 05 SE. The Panther may be a better performer.

I like that name "Wave Panther" btw. Its nicely kitsch. But then I drive an Exocet Turbo Boost. That has to be the kitschest name for a piece of kit anywhere.

As far as strongest and weakest is concerned the x-ply is very strong in the overall panel and has the advantage of rip stop. The seams fail just as readily as mono sails. X-ply has about twice the uv life of mono. (Aerotech claims 3 times).

Dacron is tougher though. The Hot Sails Freak will outlast anything else. It's a pity its a springy/flat sail.

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NotWal said...
I prefer the Ezzies. They are superior bump and jump sails.

Nothing truer

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Leech said...

NotWal said...
I prefer the Ezzies. They are superior bump and jump sails.

Nothing truer

Obviously haven't sailed the Sailworks Hucker, it's built 100% for Bump "n" Jump.

Hyundai cars are built 100% for roads.

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P.C_simpson said...

Leech said...

NotWal said...
I prefer the Ezzies. They are superior bump and jump sails.

Nothing truer

Obviously haven't sailed the Sailworks Hucker,

Also true