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Basher
Basher

590 posts

31 Oct 2023 5:05pm
Hoping for a livestream for the second part of the double elimination - from round 4.
Could be tonight - Tuesday in the Hawaii time zone.
But who knows?

It was weird last night guessing how the Monday heats were going, simply by watching the scores update. And some heats were incredibly close. It was after midnight in the UK and I should have been asleep anyway.

On the plus side, there are great photos this morning already published, from Fishbowl Diaries, which tell us what the conditions were like.
I'm guessing it was still 'float and ride'.
Flying Dutchman
Flying Dutchman

WA

1732 posts

31 Oct 2023 5:40pm
Word on the street is that the final day of competition will be live-streamed.
Cuchufleta
Cuchufleta

201 posts

31 Oct 2023 5:53pm
Thanks Paul, that would be nice. Any word on the street about conditions?
Doggerland
Doggerland

222 posts

31 Oct 2023 10:55pm
DAY2 2023 ALOHA CLASSIC FINALS DAY CLEAN BROADCAST
Flying Dutchman
Flying Dutchman

WA

1732 posts

1 Nov 2023 12:14am
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Chucufleta said..
Thanks Paul, that would be nice. Any word on the street about conditions?

Friday looking up to logo high with wind.
Basher
Basher

590 posts

1 Nov 2023 1:11am
The Monday report on the PWA site suggests the next two days are lays days, with Thursday or Friday now likely to be the finals days for the competition.
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

1 Nov 2023 8:13am
Stoked to see the full broadcast. I tapped out with the live stream. Will watch in full tonight!
Cuchufleta
Cuchufleta

201 posts

1 Nov 2023 3:04pm
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Flying Dutchman said..

Chucufleta said..
Thanks Paul, that would be nice. Any word on the street about conditions?


Friday looking up to logo high with wind.


Thanks Paul. Now we wait.....
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

2 Nov 2023 6:38pm
bernd's board looked to be assy.
Doggerland
Doggerland

222 posts

3 Nov 2023 6:19am
Double is on
?feature=shared
Cuchufleta
Cuchufleta

201 posts

3 Nov 2023 5:41pm
Unfortunately no action on Thursday, it is all coming down to the last day, Friday. Fingers crossed for some conditions....

Incredible that before the competition ho'okipa was firing and that the conditions for next week look good as well.
Doggerland
Doggerland

222 posts

3 Nov 2023 7:55pm
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Gestalt said..
bernd's board looked to be assy.


His harness too
Cuchufleta
Cuchufleta

201 posts

4 Nov 2023 3:47am
I think I heared that his harness is a 25 year old Da Kine seat harness......

So they could start in about an hour and a bit......
Cuchufleta
Cuchufleta

201 posts

4 Nov 2023 5:40am
Just out, no live stream
Cuchufleta
Cuchufleta

201 posts

4 Nov 2023 6:03am
Ben and Paul for president!!!
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

4 Nov 2023 9:56am
Best live stream ever!!

glad they made the effort.
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

4 Nov 2023 6:13pm
Does anyone know what the final results were?

what happened in the double?
PhilUK
PhilUK

1107 posts

4 Nov 2023 4:56pm
Wow, what a forecast. When does the competition start?
Eh? Last week





PhilUK
PhilUK

1107 posts

4 Nov 2023 5:03pm
Loads of people complaining (especially on FB) and not giving suggestions on how to solve the issues. The PWA/IWT cant control the weather and waves, so not much you can do about that.. Not so long ago there was a fantastic event there. The PWA only run events where there is decent money for prize fund, organisation and coverage. The IWT run events on a shoe string. The issue is sponsorship, nobody seems to want to give much money. Maybe the viewing public should subscribe to the PWA, like most professional sports. There arent many available to watch live on free terrestrial TV.

Would you subscribe to PWA/IWT to watch it live?
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

4 Nov 2023 7:23pm
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PhilUK said..
Loads of people complaining (especially on FB) and not giving suggestions on how to solve the issues. The PWA/IWT cant control the weather and waves, so not much you can do about that.. Not so long ago there was a fantastic event there. The PWA only run events where there is decent money for prize fund, organisation and coverage. The IWT run events on a shoe string. The issue is sponsorship, nobody seems to want to give much money. Maybe the viewing public should subscribe to the PWA, like most professional sports. There arent many available to watch live on free terrestrial TV.

Would you subscribe to PWA/IWT to watch it live?





The issue is not money and the conditions were pretty good really. A guy with a phone and what's app did a great job and some of the set waves were logo to mast high.

As much as i appreciate the effort made by the organisers it's patently obvious they are not too concerned with anything beyond the sailors group.

It costs nothing to put a post on Facebook with event information or post a YouTube pre show daily with interviews, weather, behind the scenes all recorded on a phone. These things are easy to execute if there is a desire.

end of the day it's whatever the organisers want to make of it. I really enjoyed what I go to watch but do feel there are low hanging fruit if the iwt want to make it resonate with spectators.
sheddweller
sheddweller

278 posts

4 Nov 2023 5:42pm
Windsurfing is an amateur sport. IWT focuses on the event itself and not so much the promotion of the event. If there is no money it's a solid choice as the events are financed by the sailors entry fees. You can argue that without better media, financing will not improve, but the flip side to that is that they had better media before and the financing didn't improve. If they don't pay to fly Duncan out then there is enough money to pay a videographer, but then there will be a load of moaning about the standard of judging. I am not sure that there is a real understanding of the amount of work it takes to put on a comp, it's a lot and its stressful and tiring and being done on a shoestring. So comments like "it costs nothing" to do this or that are misplaced, it costs a lot, it's extra work, organisation, stress.
There is not an easy answer, money will help solve it, but honestly, where is it going to come from?
Matt UK
Matt UK

285 posts

4 Nov 2023 5:45pm
Ben and Paul from Windsurfing TV tried their best today to give a commentary with what little information they could obtain from someone with a phone on the beach sending the odd video. In my books they did a better job than anyone else because there was simply no one else.

It was 6 hours and is on Youtube.

PWA was blaming the IWT for no coverage. I think that the Maui council should have given the PWA and IWT far more time and done more for the comp rather than restricting the times etc. They said that when it started it had to be continues and was only for 5 days straight. With whats gone on in Maui this year I thought they would be grateful of some income etc from all the people attending it.

Anyway good on Ben and Paul for doing what they did. Although it was 3am for Ben so he did start talking nonsense for a while.
Cheers boys.
JakeNN
JakeNN

372 posts

4 Nov 2023 5:48pm
Who won the event and the championship?
Matt UK
Matt UK

285 posts

4 Nov 2023 5:54pm
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JakeNN said..
Who won the event and the championship?


Browzinio won the overall World Cup, Antoine Martine wins the event as they couldn't finish it in time and as he won the single elimination he therefore wins the whole thing.
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

4 Nov 2023 8:10pm
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sheddweller said..
Windsurfing is an amateur sport. IWT focuses on the event itself and not so much the promotion of the event. If there is no money it's a solid choice as the events are financed by the sailors entry fees. You can argue that without better media, financing will not improve, but the flip side to that is that they had better media before and the financing didn't improve. If they don't pay to fly Duncan out then there is enough money to pay a videographer, but then there will be a load of moaning about the standard of judging. I am not sure that there is a real understanding of the amount of work it takes to put on a comp, it's a lot and its stressful and tiring and being done on a shoestring. So comments like "it costs nothing" to do this or that are misplaced, it costs a lot, it's extra work, organisation, stress.
There is not an easy answer, money will help solve it, but honestly, where is it going to come from?


It's hardly misplaced. We saw what a shoe string budget achieved today with a guy and a phone. Thinking it's all too hard and needs some level of technology that's unattainable to the average punter is just not the reality.
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

4 Nov 2023 8:12pm
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Wind Smurf said..

JakeNN said..
Who won the event and the championship?



Browzinio won the overall World Cup, Antoine Martine wins the event as they couldn't finish it in time and as he won the single elimination he therefore wins the whole thing.


Where is is this posted. I can't find the formal results
PhilUK
PhilUK

1107 posts

4 Nov 2023 6:40pm
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Gestalt said..



The issue is not money and the conditions were pretty good really. A guy with a phone and what's app did a great job and some of the set waves were logo to mast high.



Yeak ok, a phone gives the same incredible pictures as a drone which are 10 a penny and accommodation on Maui is about the same going rate as downtown Woolawongalonga.
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

4 Nov 2023 8:47pm
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PhilUK said..



Gestalt said..




The issue is not money and the conditions were pretty good really. A guy with a phone and what's app did a great job and some of the set waves were logo to mast high.




Yeak ok, a phone gives the same incredible pictures as a drone which are 10 a penny and accommodation on Maui is about the same going rate as downtown Woolawongalonga.


Been watching windsurfing at hookipa since early 80's, none of it recorded with drones and all of it incredible. Go figure hey.
PhilUK
PhilUK

1107 posts

4 Nov 2023 6:51pm
Anyone else think that the PWA are distancing themselves form the IWT events so they dont get stick for the poor media coverage, want to highlight the difference in coverage between the 2 of them? They used to ban sailors from competing on the IWT tour, as the PWA wanted to ensure the events were well run and decent media coverage, and importantly, gave the sailors decent money. Thats right, the pros are paid. The winner of IWT Peru got $500 iirc. I think the IWT is a very good tour for amateurs, but most just do 1 event as a holiday.

Last year's Aloha:
Event Prize Pool: 2022 USD $10,000 - EQUAL between Pro Men and Women as always.
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