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RS Racing Evo 3 Formula Sails

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WINDSURFnSNOW
WINDSURFnSNOW

NSW

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31 Oct 2010 1:37pm
A few pics of the Evo 3 from Brasil with a brief review from Wilhelm about it's performance after the Brasil Nationals where he got 2nd to Gabriel Browne.

"The new sail is awesome. here at the event we had one day with light winds on the limits, everyone was on 12s and I was on 10.7 since I did not get the 12 yet. The sail performed brilliantly in all conditions, in stronger winds it also feels super stable and easy. I had several races where I was leading but messed up and ended up in second, so I am super happy with the sail.
I am sure you will like it."









Sam.
JayBee
JayBee

NSW

714 posts

1 Nov 2010 8:22am
Indeed, It looks like NP have taken arguably the best race sail of the last 5 years, refined it, reduced the luff curve (hopefully, to match the Evo II?), put in a new clew and picked some new colours.
It should be a massive success then!
Hopefully we will see one on the racecourse soon.

JB
Mobydisc
Mobydisc

NSW

9029 posts

1 Nov 2010 11:51am
Maybe thats why NP call it an Evo, short for evolution.

WINDSURFnSNOW
WINDSURFnSNOW

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1 Nov 2010 4:51pm
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MarkvanOsch said...

Gabriel won this event using a 4 years old NP RS6 sail:



Compare this to the NP EVOIII:



Spot the differences


HI Mark,
What you will notice is the extra shaping forward and low giving better low-end drive than with the RS6's. Also you won't have to kick the cams each tack and gybe.
Personally I can't wait as they've gone back and put a lot of work in to this new design and Wilhelm's improved results show this.
What's to fault?
Sam.



Brett Morris
Brett Morris

NSW

1204 posts

1 Nov 2010 7:20pm
Will the new sails be this colour? for some reason I thought they had a huge NP logo on the top 1/3rd of the sail?
Have they done away with the black monofilm that was UV resistant?
I hope not i believe it really helped the sails durability, especially in places like Australia?
Actually BRA-50 sails look brand new?
Sails look great.
MarkvanOsch
MarkvanOsch

18 posts

1 Nov 2010 4:22pm
No fault, I just found it remarkable that Gabriel was using the RS6 and that the EVOIII looks so similar to this sail and different than the EVOII. Gabriel is a former MauiSails teamrider and I also sail with MauiSails. Of course this is just evolution and taking the best design forward.
WINDSURFnSNOW
WINDSURFnSNOW

NSW

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1 Nov 2010 8:41pm
Hi Brett,

Pretty sure the new graphic will look like this just a little taller.

Hi Mark,

No stress. Kind of makes you wonder if Gabriel may be involved with development in some level since leaving Maui Sails. Someone should sign him up fast as he must be amazingly talented to beat guys of the standard of Steve Allen, Paulo and Wilhelm with some ease and consistency at the moment.

Cheers,

Sam.
Chris Ting
Chris Ting

NSW

302 posts

2 Nov 2010 10:55am
Word on the Street is the top 5 Brasilians, including Gabriel and Wilhelm will be here for the Oceanics in February. A great chance to see arguably the top Formula guy in the the world right now.
WINDSURFnSNOW
WINDSURFnSNOW

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2 Nov 2010 2:21pm
Awesome news Chris.

Have you hassled the big Frenchman yet?

Sam.
JayBee
JayBee

NSW

714 posts

3 Nov 2010 12:30pm
Sam, are you saying there is a chance that Obelix is going to be at the Oceanics in Feb?



??? Let it be so!!!!

JB
sick_em_rex
sick_em_rex

NSW

1600 posts

3 Nov 2010 3:47pm
You have some 'Gaul' calling Obelix French!
geddit, geddit aye
JayBee
JayBee

NSW

714 posts

3 Nov 2010 4:16pm
C'est vraiment terrible
DavMen
DavMen

NSW

1509 posts

3 Nov 2010 8:39pm
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sick_em_rex said...

You have some 'Gaul' calling Obelix French!
geddit, geddit aye


Thats funny
formulasth
formulasth

6 posts

5 Nov 2010 6:58am
I heard that the new Evo III was based on the custom RSRacings Obelix had in Argentina and since Fortaleza Worlds 2007...that EvoIII looks really good and Wilhelm clearly showed some improvement...just wondering if Paulo having a better board for Fortaleza would have challenged Gabriel a little more..clearly the PD is not that great in open water, and clearly the 161 and 160 (Gabriel and Wilhelm ) had an advantage there.
The new North looks really nice too...what to take next year NP or North..??
any suggestions??
izaak
izaak

TAS

2013 posts

5 Nov 2010 5:23pm
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formulasth said...

I heard that the new Evo III was based on the custom RSRacings Obelix had in Argentina and since Fortaleza Worlds 2007...that EvoIII looks really good and Wilhelm clearly showed some improvement...just wondering if Paulo having a better board for Fortaleza would have challenged Gabriel a little more..clearly the PD is not that great in open water, and clearly the 161 and 160 (Gabriel and Wilhelm ) had an advantage there.
The new North looks really nice too...what to take next year NP or North..??
any suggestions??


Take some NP's
Rob11
Rob11

240 posts

5 Nov 2010 3:44pm
If you can afford them that is... well probably the same for North anyway!
SeanAUS120
SeanAUS120

QLD

769 posts

8 Nov 2010 1:23am
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Wow, look at that Italian guy getting punished on the line ... well, at least he's not doing as bad as that former World Champion on the Severne. ;)
Brett Morris
Brett Morris

NSW

1204 posts

8 Nov 2010 12:56pm
At least the Italian guy is colour coordinated.

Amazing how 5 different models of sails can look so different, but the difference in performance is marginal when in the hands of the Pro's.
Interesting how the leach on the Severne opens up so much in the mid section.
Chris Ting
Chris Ting

NSW

302 posts

9 Nov 2010 5:26pm
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SeanAUS120 said...







Wow, look at that Italian guy getting punished on the line ... well, at least he's not doing as bad as that former World Champion on the Severne. ;)


Punter

At least that Italian guy will probably have some super fast sails in the future.....
shear tip
shear tip

NSW

1125 posts

9 Nov 2010 9:02pm
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Brett Morris said...

Interesting how the leach on the Severne opens up so much in the mid section.


Maybe they're pumping like mad? Look at the leech of the North just below the logo and their stance.
petermac33
petermac33

WA

6415 posts

9 Nov 2010 6:31pm
i remember maybe 10 years ago at the Aust Slalom championships at South

Beach, we had 25+ knots of wind and a severe chop. a really strong field of 80

competitors,including 20 or 30 top Scandinavians. 8 rounds of downwind slalom with

long legs. i sat on the beach watching some awesome racing for 3 hours.

most of the top sailors from W.A were struggling in heat 2 or 3!

a offshore boat start Steve Allan was first to inshore mark in every one of his 8

heats,then just cruised to victory in 7 of 8 heats.

in last race of day of day he wiped out finding himself in 3rd place 100/150 metres

behind 2nd place. within a minute or so he had caught up to 20 metres of 2nd

place only to wipe out again. with speed like that not surprising to see why he

became world champion in formula.





Wood Duck
Wood Duck

157 posts

9 Nov 2010 8:04pm
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petermac33 said...

i remember maybe 10 years ago at the Aust Slalom championships at South

Beach, we had 25+ knots of wind and a severe chop. a really strong field of 80

competitors,including 20 or 30 top Scandinavians. 8 rounds of downwind slalom with

long legs. i sat on the beach watching some awesome racing for 3 hours.

most of the top sailors from W.A were struggling in heat 2 or 3!

a offshore boat start Steve Allan was first to inshore mark in every one of his 8

heats,then just cruised to victory in 7 of 8 heats.

in last race of day of day he wiped out finding himself in 3rd place 100/150 metres

behind 2nd place. within a minute or so he had caught up to 20 metres of 2nd

place only to wipe out again. with speed like that not surprising to see why he

became world champion in formula.







No with a sail like that !!
SeanAUS120
SeanAUS120

QLD

769 posts

15 Nov 2010 2:50am
Sorry to hijack this post with non NP stuff ...

Going back to Steve's Severne; actually the leech is designed to do that. It's part of the 'Reflex' system where the back 20% of the batten is a separate piece and balloons the sail outwards when the gusts hit it for more power. Looks horrific when you see photos of it, but the concept seems to work very well as Steve was not going slow, and neither was Bjorn with the same concept on his slalom sails.



You can see the join which is the white sticker on the back part of the battens above the boom. If you've seen it in the flesh, they have a little mechanism that you can tighten/loosen the amount the extra batten piece can bend to suit your style. Probably not too dissimilar to the NP Evo II where they had a 45cm boom cut-in that allowed the back of the battens to bend outwards following the leech in a similar way...

That being said, the whole idea of an 'integrated clew', which you now see on the Evo III, does the complete OPPOSITE and locks those battens, which is like NP saying that there old idea didn't work at all ....

WINDSURFnSNOW
WINDSURFnSNOW

NSW

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15 Nov 2010 10:14am
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SeanAUS120 said...

Sorry to hijack this post with non NP stuff ...

Going back to Steve's Severne; actually the leech is designed to do that. It's part of the 'Reflex' system where the back 20% of the batten is a separate piece and balloons the sail outwards when the gusts hit it for more power. Looks horrific when you see photos of it, but the concept seems to work very well as Steve was not going slow, and neither was Bjorn with the same concept on his slalom sails.



You can see the join which is the white sticker on the back part of the battens above the boom. If you've seen it in the flesh, they have a little mechanism that you can tighten/loosen the amount the extra batten piece can bend to suit your style. Probably not too dissimilar to the NP Evo II where they had a 45cm boom cut-in that allowed the back of the battens to bend outwards following the leech in a similar way...

That being said, the whole idea of an 'integrated clew', which you now see on the Evo III, does the complete OPPOSITE and locks those battens, which is like NP saying that there old idea didn't work at all ....




HI Sean,

The EVO III integrated clew probably isn't as big a departure from the EVO II's clew as you suggest and clearly not the complete opposite. The batten and lower leach beyond the clew in the EVO III's is still designed to bend outwards in gusts and heavy load just not upwards. This allows the mid to lower leach to hold up firmer with less distortion in gusts. More power and improved upwind as a result.

Sam.
SeanAUS120
SeanAUS120

QLD

769 posts

17 Nov 2010 8:39am
Really? It kind of looked like on Wilhelm's sail that the battens weren't bending anywhere at all at the back ... I spent a bit of time behind him in this event! haha.

Anyhow, will be good to see them on the water in the flesh. From what I've seen of them so far this year, they look like a great sail.
Chris Ting
Chris Ting

NSW

302 posts

27 Nov 2010 1:17am
Found these in my van

Chris Ting
Chris Ting

NSW

302 posts

27 Nov 2010 10:12pm



w100
w100

WA

280 posts

28 Nov 2010 12:07am
salivating?!

hope you want post your first feedbacks as soon as possible!!
Waiting4wind
Waiting4wind

NSW

1871 posts

28 Nov 2010 10:48am
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Chris Ting said...

Found these in my van




You got some spares just in case you break a couple of them !
AUS4
AUS4

NSW

1291 posts

28 Nov 2010 9:36pm
Hey Chris,
Did your van roll over ?
Chris Ting
Chris Ting

NSW

302 posts

29 Nov 2010 2:50pm
Rick, yeah there was so much wind on Sat, it blew my van over....

Des, the second set of sails were for Mike Nelson.

Mike used the 10.7 in 20+ knots in Wollongong, he said the sail was super stable and fast. He summed it up as "Fricken Awesome"

Sam P used the 12.0 yesterday in the really light NE, I'm sure he'll post some intial comments here.

I haven't used them yet because of either too much or not enough wind.
The 10.7 I rigged on Saturday had a super smooth luff pocket, deeper and slightly more forward draft, and firmer leech 2 panels above the boom before falling away nicely compared to the RSR EVO

The bottom 2 battens are now adjustable by allen key incorporated into the familar NP batten system.
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