I've ordered the 83l version. Ooh.

Note that the specs on the Severne site differ a little from the original Pyro specs that were leaked earlier this year and which - unintentionally - I put up here in the opening post for this thread.
Aplogies to Severne for jumping the gun on the release date of this board, but I just copied what I had seen published elsewhere, assuming the board had already been officially announced. As it turns out, they were using extra time to refine the board shape and to increase the range of Pyro sizes available.
Looks really good anyway.

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Basher said..
I've ordered the 83l version. Ooh.

Note that the specs on the Severne site differ a little from the original Pyro specs that were leaked earlier this year and which - unintentionally - I put up here in the opening post for this thread.
Aplogies to Severne for jumping the gun on the release date of this board, but I just copied what I had seen published elsewhere, assuming the board had already been officially announced. As it turns out, they were using extra time to refine the board shape and to increase the range of Pyro sizes available.
Looks really good anyway.

Very interesting - how does that fit with your Dyno and Nano? I am interested in 83/87 to sit alongside Dyno 105 and 85...

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Basher said..
I've ordered the 83l version. Ooh.

Note that the specs on the Severne site differ a little from the original Pyro specs that were leaked earlier this year and which - unintentionally - I put up here in the opening post for this thread.
Aplogies to Severne for jumping the gun on the release date of this board, but I just copied what I had seen published elsewhere, assuming the board had already been officially announced. As it turns out, they were using extra time to refine the board shape and to increase the range of Pyro sizes available.
Looks really good anyway.

Very interesting - how does that fit with your Dyno and Nano? I am interested in 83/87 to sit alongside Dyno 105 and 85...

I won't know until I've sailed it.

But the Pyro is not a parallel sided board, having the more curvaceous - and traditional - rail plan.
I'm guessing we get little tail kick as well - compared to the Nano which has stacks of tail kick.
I'm also guessing the Pyro will also be an amazing board for onshore conditions.
Koster likes a board which planes early and sails fast to get high jumps, but then he uses his drive for rail work on the wave, and he prefers a loose twin fin set up to make for slidey transitions and tight turns. You'll get a different drive with different fin set ups - for a more planted or drivey feel with the same board. .

And the Pyro bottom shape is a simple single concave morphing into Vee at the tail - a departure from the complex bottom shape of the Dyno and the Nano.
The Pyro 83 litre will be 58cms wide, whereas the Nano 82 is just 56cms wide and the Dyno 85 is 57.5cms wide.
The Pyro 83 is 219cms long, as compared to the Nano 82 at 217cms, and the Dyno 85 at 225cms.

On the face of it, these boards have similar dimensions - but not at all, in practice.
The Nano is a stubby wave machine, whereas the Dyno is an elongated version with less tail kick, meaning a more user-friendly FSW shape.

I'll get back to you on the differences between all three when I've sailed the Pyro.
The Nano 82 is already nothing like the Dyno 85, but both are good boards in their own right. The Dyno is simply easier to sail in most conditions, with the Nano more radical on the wave face but less forgiving.

It would be pretty cool if the Pyro 83 combined the best parts of both the earlier boards- but I expect the differences will be more subtle than that.

I'll give my version of a comparison review of all three, once I've had the Pyro on the water a few times.

Before my Pyro arrives, I probably need to try my Nano set up as a twin fin.

That's great - looking forward to hearing the comparison. My Dynos are brilliant, but still would like a proper (fast) waveboard as well. I didn't get on well with the Nano - tail kick made it a bit too tricky for my talents and usual sailing spots, but having just had 2 great days in Cornwall, the Pyro feels like it could work well in my quiver. With teenage boys getting planing/straps/harness now, I'll need more boards anyway ;-)

Pyro looks cool and I am sure it is a heck of a board. I dont know only why Severne packs all its boards Pyro,Mako,Nano with 5 slots. Maybe not so important for the weekend warrior but thrusters,quads,twinzers require different rockers to be precise imho. For sure the board tail is stronger with more reinforcements.

They sell better!

If you take an average punter who's only sailed thrusters and tell him to buy a twin fin board he probably won't buy it as it's "not for him." Give him the illusion of it being a thruster with the option of a twin setup and he'll be much keener.
Chances are the board works best as a twin, will be good but a bit different as a quad and probably **** as a thruster.

5 finboxes are so often a marketing ploy. They give the impression of versatility and works-in-everything-ness

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RuaraidhK257 said..
[...] will be good but a bit different as a quad and probably **** as a thruster. [...]

Why ?

Haha, we live in a world where people are expected to take sides nowadays.
In windsurfing you're either a speed sailor or a wave sailor and then the way you feel about fins is totally different.

I actually have no preferences when it comes to wave board fin set ups. What I do find is that one set up works well at one location, but when sailing elsewhere you might want another.
In this case, the twin fin set up is mentioned because it's Koster's signature board and he always sails twin fins at home and for the Canaries PWA tour locations. The wind is usually cross on to the wave there.
The twin fin offers the loosest tail for the slidey sorts of wave moves Koster specialises in, and the only real surprise is that a wave sailor of his stature and weight can use the same set up for full power into high jumps. (I wish I knew the secret...)

Some boards come with one box, or just three, even with Severne.
Five boxes mean more choice and the newer slot boxes mean we don't add much unnecessary weight to the board tail.

I've had a lot of twin fin boards myself - from the Severne board designer - but I don't know which set up I'll choose for my Pyro 83 when that arrives. I'm not actually a fan of quads for my own UK south coast sailing spot, so I may go tri fin or I may try the twin fin set up.
With a tri fin, I'd probably go relatively small on the centre fin.

But these are just options to experiment with. And, for sure if you have cross-off launch spots then you're more likely to want that Quad drive on the wave face.

i have just got (my only ever brand new board) the 2021 dyno 95 (the type in the picture above) ive tried to sail it in all the wrong conditions on uk south coast so far .ive previously sailed a fanatic stubby 95 2017 for 2 years and a lot of times so far the two boards seem to live at opposite ends of the spectrum of feel so im suffering from overspend guilt at present as the much hyped dyno im struggling to make fit those boxes so im guessing its me , i seem to be used to lively playful feel but dyno is beautifully smooth and fluid , everyone is now going to tell me its me and i need to get used to it .i will keep at it and hope i can make it fit with my expectations ,ive fitted smaller fins as the 21 it comes with makes it feel even more stiff a k4 scorcher as i used on my stb95 loosens it up but still feels sort of IN the water im going to try moving the mast track a bit further back if the wind comes back to a usable level soon, i really hope i get to grips with it

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i have just got (my only ever brand new board) the 2021 dyno 95 (the type in the picture above) ive tried to sail it in all the wrong conditions on uk south coast so far .ive previously sailed a fanatic stubby 95 2017 for 2 years and a lot of times so far the two boards seem to live at opposite ends of the spectrum of feel so im suffering from overspend guilt at present as the much hyped dyno im struggling to make fit those boxes so im guessing its me , i seem to be used to lively playful feel but dyno is beautifully smooth and fluid , everyone is now going to tell me its me and i need to get used to it .i will keep at it and hope i can make it fit with my expectations ,ive fitted smaller fins as the 21 it comes with makes it feel even more stiff a k4 scorcher as i used on my stb95 loosens it up but still feels sort of IN the water im going to try moving the mast track a bit further back if the wind comes back to a usable level soon, i really hope i get to grips with it

If you look elsewhere in this forum section there's a whole thread on the Dyno, with some tuning tips there.
I use a 17cms centre fin in my 95. Mast foot right back.

ok thanks its because i saw picture above and i know you have one thats why i was quite interested in getting one i will look on dyno thread ta

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dodgysteve said..
ok thanks its because i saw picture above and i know you have one thats why i was quite interested in getting one i will look on dyno thread ta

I think the 'picture above' you might have been seeing is an advert from Severne. But no worries.
I have two Dynos, the 85 and the 95.
It'll be interesting to see how the Dynos compare with the Pyro. The Pyro has more curvaceous sides, rather than going down the parallel rails route.

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Basher said..

dodgysteve said..
ok thanks its because i saw picture above and i know you have one thats why i was quite interested in getting one i will look on dyno thread ta

I think the 'picture above' you might have been seeing is an advert from Severne. But no worries.
I have two Dynos, the 85 and the 95.
It'll be interesting to see how the Dynos compare with the Pyro. The Pyro has more curvaceous sides, rather than going down the parallel rails route.

am keen to hear how the pyro compares to the simmer quantum. have you sailed a quantum before and able to comment once the pyro is under your feet.

www.severnesails.com/boards/pyro/

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Basher said..I think the 'picture above' you might have been seeing is an advert from Severne. But no worries.

I have two Dynos, the 85 and the 95.
It'll be interesting to see how the Dynos compare with the Pyro. The Pyro has more curvaceous sides, rather than going down the parallel rails route.

It's a super-nice looking board;

Agree with JJ. The board outline, volume distribution and bottom shape look like it's a "floaty" and fast wave board. Looking at the shape compared to the Dyno and Nano it looks like it sits between those two boards.

Hoping to get my hands on a 105 to test. Will report back once I have had a chance to ride it.

Yeah,board looks awesome,fast and jumpy. Bur why so much black ? Some analogy to black metal ??? At least you can fry some eggs on the deck on a sunny day....

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sprayblaze said..
Bur why so much black ?

Pyro as in Pyromaniac ... black as in burnt ... I guess?

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stehsegler said..

sprayblaze said..
Bur why so much black ?

Pyro as in Pyromaniac ... black as in burnt ... I guess?

Unsuccessful experiment with black powder. Black color sucks IMHO. All the dirt will be super visible plus will heat up badly. Through the years I became more of a fan of limited finish look as in Flikka or latest Quatro cubes, old Fanatic boards. Less paint - less weight and less decals.

I like twin mode a lot too (like Koster, hehe). When I sail my Quatro cube as a twin which I do most of the time, I cannot distinguish it from a single fin with an added feature of 0 spinouts and 0 spinouts on crappy landed jumps and obviously, shorter fins, and less fins than quad to watch out. I used MUF xTwins, Black Project fins and K4s.
With MUFs and Black Projects the boards become super agile and fast. K4s soften the ride in strong wind.

I used to have a thruster a few years back. Bought full MUFs thruster setup thinking it would make the board more electric similar to my experience with twins but used full K4 thruster setup all the time instead as MUFs made no noticeable difference in thruster (at least for me). Weird.

Agree, 5 boxes will sell better like a bicycle with 18 speeds out of which you would practically use only a few.

Someone should ping Koster and ask directly about twin fin business :)

Design is just like the choice of music for videos... you can't win. Someone will always dislike one design over another. A lot of people for example didn't like the nose shape of the Dyno V1. Personally I didn't care... it mattered more to me how the board performed.

Yes black is an interesting choice re heat absorption but it only black on the deck. I guess most of the time you'll have your board sitting with the bottom up on the beach in order to not damage the fins.

I have seen the boards in person and the paint job looks stellar. Probably one of the nicer looking designs I have seen in a while.

Haha. I'm one of these weird people who doesn't like square noses or too much black color.. But conditions apply... If you produce a 200cm long board that sails amazing and has a square nose, I would want to have it. Otherwise if you advertise how you spend years of research and made a square-nosed 220cm board, I wouldn't touch it with a stick.
Black color can also be easily switched to something more happy and with less heat absorption.

What is the weight of the Pyro?

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Manawa said..
What is the weight of the Pyro?

The figures quoted on the Severne site suggest that for each volume/size the Pyro will be lighter than the Dyno or the Nano.
Indeed the smaller sizes are supposed to come in at less than 6kgs, stripped weight.

But we'll see, I guess. My 83 hasn't arrived yet, but is due soon.

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Basher said..

Manawa said..
What is the weight of the Pyro?

The figures quoted on the Severne site suggest that for each volume/size the Pyro will be lighter than the Dyno or the Nano.
Indeed the smaller sizes are supposed to come in at less than 6kgs, stripped weight.

But we'll see, I guess. My 83 hasn't arrived yet, but is due soon.

That's funny they're promoting the pyro as lighter than its peers, when all of Koster's personal boards all have added reinforcement to make them heavier for his jumping!

Is it the same finish as the older boards ? I found them a bit chippy on the past.

But This board is suitable for side side off conditions or only for Pozo conditions?

Getting excited now.
My Pyro 83 is apparently on its way to the UK importers as I write this, and I should get it by Xmas.
Can't wait.

Anyone got theirs already and has some tuning tips?
Mine will be the 83 litre version.
The hull weights listed also seem very good - How light is yours?


I've also sold my Dyno 95, which means I'll have a Dyno 85, a Nano 83, and a Pyro 83. And I wonder how they will compare in effective size on the water. We can't just compare wave boards using width and length and volume dimensions any more.

Could you get your hand on a mako 84 so that you will be able to perform the full review of the severne waveboards' range ?

Mine came in today. Feels solid and looks fine.
I would say the bottom looks better than top but couldn't care less for the colours if it rides well :)
Where's the wind now?

It says on the website that quad fins are supplied but mine came as a thruster. Missing one plug to sail it as a twinser, no big deal. It's slot boxes, so better keep away from rocks! Conically shaped fin screws holding the fins more secure compared to the slot boxes I have had on other boards, and seem to dent the fins less.

Foot straps are the same that I have on my Tabou boards, ate through my feet after one or two weeks of daily sailing. Maybe it's better in narrow setting for smaller feet, not sure. These straps hold the shape nicely and easy to get your feet out if things go wrong. And yes front ones still come with these fiddly plastic inserts not 4 screws per strap. Took the Drakes from my warranty-cut-in-pieces Ultra Kode.

93 L with straps and 2 x MUF X-Waves it's exactly 7kg, good result I'd say!
Over 1kg lighter compared to the same size Ultra Kode Flax Balsa I had, that disintegrated after first few sessions, two of them actually, then I gave up.

I'll do a follow up once I've had some sessions with it.

Looks Lars Petersen going big with the new Pyro 83 i saw some pic on Fb.