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KA Sails 2012

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Spotty
Spotty

VIC

1619 posts

28 Sep 2011 11:56am
Sailed the 2012 6.6 Koncept on the weekend, its just got better again!

Read about it and the entire 2012 Ka range @ www.kasailwindsurfing.com/en/
choco
choco

SA

4177 posts

28 Sep 2011 1:54pm
Spotty they must have kicked you of the team, your not on there nice fresh site, be good to see what you speed you could do on the new Ka Race sails as well?
Sail Repair WA
28 Sep 2011 6:27pm
Spotty is defiantly on the KA team!! :)
We are still running the last updates on the new webpage and might not have all info yet from our riders,,

As Spotty pointed out we have huge improvements over the entire range of 2012 KA sails.

The "Killer" wave sail has been added to the wave sail range and represent a more compact sail with a drive more forward and higher foot. Form our feed back it works excellent in waves as for Freestyle!!

The Freeride range of Koyote and Kult is remaining their unreal performance and smaller upgrades has been added to improve draft a little more forward.

KArace and Koncept has gone through a lot of work and the result speaks for itself.
From pro riders to freeride sailors, that had a chance to test the sails, all have the same feedback, that in one word would be - WOW!!

We are very excited to get all those 2012 sails in our customers hands and hear their feedback, that we expect will be 100% positive.

For more specific info, spec, pictures, etc. please see below,,

Follow the "inside" daily news on KA sails: www.facebook.com/pages/Kasail/127507403928854

And have a look at www.windsurfing.kasail.com

Cheers

Jesper
mr love
mr love

VIC

2415 posts

29 Sep 2011 8:22am
Choco, I am going to be using the Race at the PiT this season and see what I can do. I,ll get Spotty on them for sure, he,ll go faster than me!!!.
The Race and Koncept have got a bit closer this year but the Koncept is still likely to be the beter choice for true downwind speed sailing. The Race is designed as a Slalom Race sail with a finer entry than the Koncept, is better upwind and crosswind and super stable in really overpowered conditions but may not have the drive at the really deep downwind angles that Koncept has.
We will see, it may surprise
GazMan
GazMan

WA

847 posts

29 Sep 2011 10:19pm
Nice job done on the flash new website Martin and Peter, though shocked to see that my favorite sail, the Koyote, is now mostly monofilm!
TASSIEROCKS
TASSIEROCKS

TAS

1652 posts

14 Oct 2011 11:02am
Any updated ETA on when the 2012 ka Race land in Australia??

Cheers Russ
mr love
mr love

VIC

2415 posts

16 Oct 2011 6:40pm
Russ, They will be here before the end of the month.
tobyhodgso
tobyhodgso

WA

300 posts

19 Oct 2011 9:16am
Just purchased sweeeeeet deal from KA sails - see the new website and it says big discounts and its BIG discounts. Just email and ask!

Koncept 7.3 in the mail - excited !

I shout " support your Australian company, Australias fastest - Spotty, and your local PWA rider- Jesper Orth"
Troppo
Troppo

WA

887 posts

19 Oct 2011 10:43pm
just tried out the KA race 7.1 this afternoon at north cottesloe. I was in a rush so just downhauled and outhauled with out really fine tuning anything.

first run out and wow. this sail is sick! super stable and fast.

cant wait to get my hands on the production models!
pepe47
pepe47

WA

1382 posts

21 Oct 2011 8:20am
Mmmm, new koncepts
elmo
elmo

WA

8879 posts

21 Oct 2011 9:07am
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pepe47 said...

Mmmm, new koncepts


and just in the right colours for you Pepe
Sail Repair WA
26 Oct 2011 11:47am



Is this the Colour for Pepe? :)
snides8
snides8

WA

1731 posts

26 Oct 2011 5:52pm
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Jesper said...




Is this the Colour for Pepe? :)


The purple headed pepe eater!

Looks nice
pepe47
pepe47

WA

1382 posts

27 Oct 2011 11:19am



just to clear things up
elmo
elmo

WA

8879 posts

27 Oct 2011 11:26am
Are you sure??
Windxtasy
Windxtasy

WA

4017 posts

27 Oct 2011 11:28am
I like the purple one!
pepe47
pepe47

WA

1382 posts

27 Oct 2011 12:00pm
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Windxtasy said...

I like the purple one!


I think a nice 7.5m red/black 2011 model would suit you
pepe47
pepe47

WA

1382 posts

27 Oct 2011 12:24pm
Just ordered my 2012 6.6m yellow/black koncept...now waiting patiently, like a kid at xmas
elmo
elmo

WA

8879 posts

27 Oct 2011 12:26pm
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pepe47 said...

Just ordered my 2012 6.6m yellow/black koncept...now waiting patiently, like a kid at xmas


you can remember back that far
mr love
mr love

VIC

2415 posts

27 Oct 2011 3:35pm
Mine are the Purple one's, they look great, really!!!!
Container is here, we should have it on the weekend, so not long to wait.
Windxtasy
Windxtasy

WA

4017 posts

27 Oct 2011 2:35pm
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pepe47 said...

Windxtasy said...

I like the purple one!


I think a nice 7.5m red/black 2011 model would suit you


I do need a 7.5 to complete my quiver...
TASSIEROCKS
TASSIEROCKS

TAS

1652 posts

27 Oct 2011 8:16pm
Yellow and black race for me, please send them asap

Cheers Russ
Walt
Walt

264 posts

8 Nov 2011 7:53pm
Hi

just had a browse on Facebook KA-sail and there is all the sails in the range with real photos but not the Koyote It must be top secret.

Thanks
Kind regards
Walt
mr love
mr love

VIC

2415 posts

8 Nov 2011 11:07pm
Hi Walt , If I get time this week I will rig one and photograph it for you.

Regards Martin
Walt
Walt

264 posts

8 Nov 2011 8:16pm
Hey Martin

Your the man

Thanks

Kind regards
Walt
tobyhodgso
tobyhodgso

WA

300 posts

9 Nov 2011 7:48am
My new Koncept has the best "go fast" feature in the world:
a sticker that says V98
lucky me, shame its has not seen the water in WA yet !!
FormulaNova
FormulaNova

WA

15090 posts

9 Nov 2011 12:08pm
I hate to ruin the love-in, but what is actually better about these sails? There are a few comments about how better they are, but no actual details on what this is that has been improved?

Are you saying the previous models were crap, and therefore the new ones fix up this blatant fault? Comments about how fast they are sort of imply the old ones weren't...

They do appear to look good though.

When I looked at the KA website a few days ago, despite finding details of the sails, I couldn't find any information on how to get a quote for them in Australia. Has that been broken?

mr love
mr love

VIC

2415 posts

9 Nov 2011 4:09pm
Formula, There will be a brand new OZ webshop online really soon ( in fact I thought it was happening last night) It will have all the details on how you can order the sails and all the contact details if you wish to chat to somebody prior to placing an order and any local delears .

2012 Koncept

Jesper is the best person to explain the technical details of the changes that have been made.
In essence the sail has been given a more compact outline, shorter in the luff and longer in the boom. Refinements to the shaping and twist have occured as well.
Why?
The Koncept has it,s origins as a speed sail, AMAC originally designed if for Speed sailing at Sandy Point. As a consequence it is extremely fast deep downwind but the Team felt that its "all round" capabilities could be improved, mainly it,s upwind performance. The changes that have been made are squarely aimed at acheiving this.
So, no the previous Koncepts are not inferior as is evident by the results the sail has acheived. They do what they were designed to do more than admirably. For 2012 it was a case of changing the design parmeters for the sail slightly.
I am sure jesper would be happy to go into the "knitty gritty,s" if you wish.
tobyhodgso
tobyhodgso

WA

300 posts

9 Nov 2011 1:41pm
Good KA Koncept and KA Race technical talk going on in this forum thread:
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Gps/KA-2012-Koncept/
petermac33
petermac33

WA

6415 posts

9 Nov 2011 4:29pm
It's all in the mind folks.

I tested a 5.8m rs6 against a 6.2m reflex and i found no difference in bottom or top end,although i agree the reflex is a better sail,lighter especially.

New sails are fun to try and they are at there fastest before they are stretched,downhill from there on.

Remember owning a new 5.0m RS3 and it was real quick when new,a few thousand km's later,felt it had lost so much performance.

My friend has bought online, from tennis warehouse over 50 tennis raquets,and guess what?

He still prefers his old Yonex raquet that is 20 years and 10 models old.

Then again, maybe i'm doing a psyops on myself to reduce the jealousy of not being able to afford a new Koncept 2012.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova

WA

15090 posts

9 Nov 2011 7:45pm
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mr love said...

Formula, There will be a brand new OZ webshop online really soon ( in fact I thought it was happening last night) It will have all the details on how you can order the sails and all the contact details if you wish to chat to somebody prior to placing an order and any local delears .

2012 Koncept

Jesper is the best person to explain the technical details of the changes that have been made.
In essence the sail has been given a more compact outline, shorter in the luff and longer in the boom. Refinements to the shaping and twist have occured as well.
Why?
The Koncept has it,s origins as a speed sail, AMAC originally designed if for Speed sailing at Sandy Point. As a consequence it is extremely fast deep downwind but the Team felt that its "all round" capabilities could be improved, mainly it,s upwind performance. The changes that have been made are squarely aimed at acheiving this.
So, no the previous Koncepts are not inferior as is evident by the results the sail has acheived. They do what they were designed to do more than admirably. For 2012 it was a case of changing the design parmeters for the sail slightly.
I am sure jesper would be happy to go into the "knitty gritty,s" if you wish.


Ahh, I found the link to where you send a quote request. I think it would be good to also provide a list of areas/suppliers to order from so you can just click on where you want to order. IMHO sometimes pretty graphics and complicated scripts can be worse than a straight forward approach.

I guess it is hard to make a new sail stand out from the previous years, especially when you have done a good job previously. It does get a bit boring though when the comments are very generic 'it just got better' type comments though.

Also, how is the customer service these days? I have had mixed reactions when I have ordered these in the past. I have had great responses a few times when I went to order some Koncepts, and then almost no response when I enquired about a sail a few months later.

I guess if you are a "team-rider" you might not see these things, but for the rest of us, this makes a difference.

I think I am still waiting on a request for some RDM cams that I asked about a year ago. Have they come in yet

They are pretty sails though.

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