Hi Julien,
How will the lightMotion be different to the Motion?
I can work out the it wont have a screen, what other specifications are you working on?
The lightMotion will be able to BT to my Iphone (or other), will an app be required? and then I could process the data with eg KA72 and post to GPSTC? Is this about how it would/could work?
Will the lightMotion be more accurate than the Motion?
How big will its memory be?
Hello mathew, as I understand that page, 87% is only AC-DC efficiency ?
"AC adapters must meet a minimum efficiency of 85 percent; Energy Star Level V requires 87 percent (European CE uses CEC as a base). Adding the losses of the AC adapter to wireless charging brings the overall efficiency down further as the inductive transfer efficiency of inductive charging is only 75-80 percent."
I wouldn't expect better than 60% total efficiency on a device the size of Motion. The device would also be thicker. And to be more efficient, it would need to be wider/longer. I'm totally on board with the principle of it but realistically, it would come with a lot of downsides too. Also, the main goal for it would be easy access to competitions and for an organiser with 100 devices, it would mean >= 50 pads, a bigger electrical toll and slower charging rates.
The first Motion prototypes had capacitive buttons hidden inside the brick because I didn't have the budget for custom seals. Great waterproofing idea but terribly inconvenient. So I moved to the current solution. And exchanged these old devices with new ones; no one ever looked back.
Hello BSN101, most of Motion documentation would hold true for the light version. You would connect it by USB and upload/use the log directly from the USB disk. I expect no change in accuracy. If something really made a change, it would be backported to Motion too. Memory will be the same 8GB, battery the same 5.6Wh. At this point, I do not know if Bluetooth will be added. It's all talks until March.
If you can keep the price at $200 or less these are going to sell well. All going well, what sort of timeframe until one is available to buy?
Right now, I'm focused on clearing the backlog on regular Motions.
When done, and production resumes to normal, I'll make 25-50 LightMotion (any other name welcome). Around April.
Once these are made, I'll mark a pause to receive feedback on them.
Then I'll most likely change a few things.
Then it will really start. Around June.
Customers of the very first one are guaranteed to receive the next edition if it improved substantially.
It's basically the same timeline and principle as Motion. With more experience and more stable suppliers, contracts, shipping and production I hope.
Hello ! I received all parts to do the first trials but I haven't found the time yet. I'll post something longer about it at the end of next week.
Hello, this is pushed back to mid-May. I have an interesting prototype but I really need to work on big accessory-related changes to regular Motion first. Sorry !
What put me off using the GPS is having to plug it using the USB to the computer.Because I'm lazy, I use my Garmin watch that upload via Bluetooth to my phone automatically instead of using my GT31 (this also stops me to buy the Motion as I know I will not plug it to my computer after a session).The Garmin is a lot less accurate but so much more convenient in my opinion.If you were able to make a light motion having the feature of uploading directly to the phone via Bluetooth, that would be the best of both world as the Motion GPS looks great.
Good, I wanted to have a chat about this. I feel like ditching Bluetooth. Not enough following, too many platforms to trial and support, too many potential support tickets from users (not an issue but very time consuming). Supporting USB on five major OSes is already enough work.
So the idea now floats between :
- cheap with a small very readable segment display showing a few speed averages,
- cheaper, no screen, quite the rugged fortress.
Opinions welcome.
Side question but would USB plugging Motion to your phone to upload your tracks good enough ? Is your will to not have to kickstart a complete desktop computer to do this ? Or did I understand it wrong ? Thank you ! J
Forget Bluetooth if it is too much work. My vote is for a really simple device with no screen. Most people already have a GPS watch for approximate feedback. It would be good to have a simple LED to indicate two states. 1 Power is on. 2 Satellite lock and logging
As I understand it, having BT makes very little cost or size difference. Leaving it out wil not make it much cheaper. Certainly not in the class of the Canmore! The current Motion is already quite small. Any smaller and it would be impractcal and easy to loose.
Bluetoothing results to phone (or tablet/computeretc) is a great idea for those too lazy to open their computer and plug it in. (has the human race really got to that?)
Also, if there is no screen, the results can still be viewed quickly and easily after the session via phone and BT.
I think all understand and support this is a no screen option, For those what want a screen it is the standard Motion or other GPS's available.
Would rather loose the screen and keep bt
love using my 'cheap' suunto to monitor on water and quick BT upload to phone while derigging
keen for a waterproof gpstc compliant device that I can BT simply at end of session
I made some important changes to Motion recently to take early user reports into account. They changed my way of viewing/using Motion for the better.
For this same reason, I've decided to give more weight to the messages written above and decided for LightMotion to come with wireless data, inductive charging, network, 10hz GNSS, big memory, big battery, no USB, no display. A rugged black box. It'll be available in bulk to distributors, competitions, clubs and by one to end users. They will only be made in bulk though, once a month. They will also come with a cool new feature I'll explain on release.
I have working prototypes on hand. I'll add a page to the website tomorrow to register your interest.
If this proves a viable alternative to USB, I'll look into moving Motion to wireless data and inductive charging in October.
WOW , you two are great at destroying stuff. I've only killed 2 since 2004, I'm still hoping the other 2 at LG will be found still intact .
I did kill 4 Garmin in 2 years thou before the GT 's arrived. They replaced all under warranty. Great service, just not suited to water