izaak said..
,... to get the sail back up and flick it round. .....

Macroscien said...

I can see you Izaak hold the boom with "over grip" but Jacques " undergrip" before sail flip.



If that make any difference how fast and fluid the sail flip is - or just personal preference?

Macroscien said...

I can see you Izaak hold the boom with "over grip" but Jacques " undergrip" before sail flip.



If that make any difference how fast and fluid the sail flip is - or just personal preference?

AJEaster said..



now that is a sweet gybe on a 45cm speed board in the 2nd video

The pull up at the end of the run (video 1) in that chop at 40kn is a bit hairy! I like the gopro footage that has somehow been linked to the gps to show the realtime and max speed whilst viewing the footage. Does anyone on here have this connectivity between the GPS and GoPro? - looks cool!!!

red said..


Adam... type of camera called a GoBandit.. also new Garmin has same technology

hardie said..

This is cheating doing alphas in these conditions this was a 25kt+ alpha

FormulaNova said..



That's Albany, right?

What was the windspeed?

Milsy said..

well, thanks for the footage,,,,,,,,,are we allowed to discuss further, or would that be too offensive?, we love the alpha on the central coast, we get a lot less wind on average, and we focus on the turn more than the run in and out, and i can tell looking at your turns, well, lets just say, you sail the 500m of crosswind well, but your actual turns are......(assumming were allowed to learn from posted footage, please dont take as personal attack).hards, hehe, (how ironic), sails well, aggressively accelerates once gypes completed, the gype itself looks lazy, lazy into intial carve, rig flips look out of time, nearly stalling on re gather, and not keeping board lifted or carved right though turn to completion, basically doesnt engage rails enough and is lazy with weight transfer through out the turn, you also appear to be entering the turn with a powerless sail, we love to cram hard cross, board lifted, and create big pull into carve, you appear to be pushing into turn, of cause making for slow rig flip, upon regathering rig, your position on board isnt correct, and you waste time resetting your position, rather then into intial acceleration to complete turn, you look like you stall, reset, then kick butt on the crosswind, I think you should work HARDER Hards, create more power into intial carve, engage new outer rail after flip, get lower,, thanks hards, your a great sailor,and i enjoyed looking at your footage, and learning, thank you,

Milsy said..

yeah, yeah, alright, alright, alright,,,,,,,,,My time in navy, and boxing have made me into a 1970 east german style of coach,,, mean, harsh, and will not reward under performance on the pursuit to perfection!!!! My alphas arent great, but we can regularly break 23 when entering well under 30,,, gyping is an evolution of many subtle skills, and i think if your like me, you eventually get to a point were your paining well both sides, sorta 8/10 efforts and just stringing them together towards the hr effort,,,, I'm at the point were the board is staying fully lifted throughout wider arc, it feels like back leg pressure, must slide from rail, to top, to rail throughout, keeping board heavily engaged, the rig flip, if i kill it, then i basically work my way down the boom as if i might duck it, completely killing it, dragless, at point of neutral, work way back up boom, to flip, on the regather, since it was stalled, you now feel like the perfect engagement is by hyper gathering, really leaning hard out new wayward rail, straight armed trying to encourage the rig to take large arc around board, when i get it right, there is plenty of power on the regather as you forced the sail to power up, now is about body position as most times people need to reset before regathering a powered up sail, most eventually bring it in towards them, sheet in, killing the power and now have to re open up to get power, ruining it,,,,,,,,,,sometimes when im proper overpowered, i dont need to kill the sail, i try to get insanely loose crosswind and just let it pull me hard into the gype, you can feel a mini slingshot feel, carve crazy hard, the rig flip will be quick, basically ripping out of hands, into a well controlled regather, and set up for fast acceleration straight out of the gype, as you know, articulating feel is hard, and feel, timing, relationship of board to sail etc all play a big part,,,, the reason the east germans would call your entry lazy, is your letting yourself be pulled foward by the the sail as opposed to standing forward yourself, i do it, its lazy, smooth, easy, you do the semi dip, easy, smooth, lazy, and not setting up for better exit, it also appears your stalling on the regather, not great body position in relation to gaining a powered up sail, so then your not even creating a powered up sail on regather,,,as for fast alphas, the gype is only a small part of what is essentially 500m of aggressive crosswind sailing, plenty of guys get 25 plus alphas but their actual gype is pretty poor, weve got over 21 tacking, a great speed sailor up home gets 24 kt alphas, fast 36 plus runs in, poor gypes, I think a good way to learn to gype technically well, encoraging no loss throughtout, is when we sail in light crap, and just dont wanna come off the plain, thats when i find myself being less lazy as the power isn't there to burn,, thanks hardie, your a good sport...............this message will self destruct

hardie said..



Yes Albany, windspeed from memory was a solid 20kts, about 18 to 23kts, almost perfect alpha gybing consitions

FormulaNova said..




I went down there a couple of years ago in early January. It felt so cold compared to Perth, that I figured the air would pack a bit more of a punch down there. Being chickens, and no one else being out, we didn't bother sailing.

The section you are sailing looked to be very shallow to us, and there were a few kites around. Are there any really shallow places there to be wary of?