Why this hasnt happend in kiting?
Well iv sort of lost connection to windsurfing and dont know how much the sports development is being driven by marketing, But kite surfing is ruled by marketing and trend.
Robby Naish ONLY BAD MOVE or worst move was getting involved promoting kiting.for da $$$$$
Kites have him to thank AND windsurfers well ????????????tar
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What I still don't understand is why this hasn't happened in kiting?
In terms of aerials they (kites) are landing some strapless back loops now, but there will be limits on what they can do strapless as controlling the board in the air during rotations is very difficult.
If you want to open your eyes and see someone doing double back loops strapless and massive punts on a kiteboard take a look at this! No windsurfer in the world could make 25 knots onshore look this fun, and he's only been kiting 3 years.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/kite-wave-byron/
Robby Naish saw the future when he got into kiteboarding :)
Check out Kai Lenny 4 in 1 now this guy knows how to do it all.Seen videos of him Kiting,windsurfing,sup,tow in and paddle surf jaws.When its all said n done just get out there n have fun...thats my thoughts
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What I still don't understand is why this hasn't happened in kiting?
In terms of aerials they (kites) are landing some strapless back loops now, but there will be limits on what they can do strapless as controlling the board in the air during rotations is very difficult.
If you want to open your eyes and see someone doing double back loops strapless and massive punts on a kiteboard take a look at this! No windsurfer in the world could make 25 knots onshore look this fun, and he's only been kiting 3 years.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/kite-wave-byron/
Robby Naish saw the future when he got into kiteboarding :)
The way that appeared, it looked like you were deliberately misquoting me, but it looks like it may have been an accident due to the way quotes work.
I was talking about landing a backloop strapless without holding the board and landing back on the same wave. I haven't seen a kiter do the double back loop and land back on the same wave yet.
I'm happy to acknowledge the great progress kiters have made in strapless riding - its so good it looks like magic is keeping the board on in some of the aerials, and they can get tubed, switch stance etc.
Windsurfers still havent got tubed yet.
In onshore wind kiting and riding waves is better than windsurf wave riding in onshore.
In cross-off, the bigger and better the waves are, the more circumstances swing in favour of windsurfing.
It may well be that kiters will find a way to overcome the cross-off wind disadvantage - I hope they do.
I'm not interested in a serious way in the comparison between windsurfing and kiting but it does make for a bit of fun banter between the two. As said before different people enjoy different things, or the same things and whatever you get the most fun from wins.
Only comment that comes to mind regarding the original video is that I've always appreciated Jason Polakows Commitment and style in big waves. He has been my favourite poley way before kiting was thought of. Maybe when Ben Wilson has been charging the big ones as long as Jason has and the sport progresses like windsurfing has then maybe people will have different opinions.
IMHO I think that big wave kiting needs straps to help with the extra leverage required similar to Tow in surfing and Wavesailing.
Good luck too those that wish to convince the other there sport is better. What ever happened to having fun without worrying what others think.
The interesting thing about this thread is that it started as a comparison between two sports with points of view being provided by participants of each about the validity of the other. There has been all sought of comments about strapped v unstrapped, wind direction, aerial prowess etc.
The simple fact is that these are 2 different sports and unless you participate at a competent level in both you will never really appreciate the differences and the degrees of difficulty of what you are seeing. A maneuver in one does not translate directly to the other. It is a bit like me as a windsurfer and kite boarder making comments on SUPing in surf, I know what I think looks hard or radical but really I don't have a clue...
As many have said in this thread, it's all about what is fun to each of us as individuals and what is radical for me to be doing will be mowing the lawn for someone else. At the end of the day a level of respect for all of these sports is all we should ask for (even SUPing...)
"Wavesailing v kiting "
Discussing it in the windsurfing forum??
Kind of like "rug making v Harley repair" in
The rug makers forum
No bias there 
^^^ I reckon your guilty of slagging the opposition on here also.
Do I have to pay a fine to the 'grammar police'? (or is it ?')
Anyway the point I was getting at was 'wavesailing Vs kiting', in perfect conditions. Not what's more fun, or who gets the most chicks, or to stir the pot.
I had my first crack at kiting this season and had sick fun, and I'll do it again, but not in waves.
That is all.
Typical skillless tbagger grade 1 primary school Riding down the line backside.ffs get some skill. Clearly this knob head cant switch Hasn't learn t pole surfing and shouldn't be riding waves, he is a danger to himself and the people who have to rescue him.
You mabe able to catch big waves on your tbag but clearly this video shows "he cant rock a show like that" ! or ride correctly.
"Ameture" vs "professional"
Polakow not many if any??? You kitesurfers are dreaming if you think you can out do him?!!!!
Post all the kite-surfing videos you want Hes in another league of technical down the line big wave wave-sailing.
The kite waveriding strapless has progressed a lot on the last few years and its still progressing fast, which is good to see.
This is 3 years ago, but it shows kiters can squeeze a lot out of shorebreak waves in not a lot of space.
about 5 min 01 there's a jet ski in the tube that gets munched! 
I've lways felt that baton twirling within rhythmic gymnastics was the highest end of radical sports?
Maybe I'm just outa da loop on whats cool
I mostly poley dance or whatever you call it, but recently got into kiting. Good for lighter days or when I'm down south (albany area) it's better for kiting. So I'm not really biased, I like both sports. But really when it comes to riding waves, a windsurfer will generally always be a better thing to have than a kite, unless it's sloppy & onshore, then a kite would be preferable.
