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HTW101
HTW101

14 posts

8 Jan 2016 3:37am
Hey guys!

I recently came across a list by Boards Magazine on the top 15 mistakes windsurfers make. boards.co.uk/technique/15-common-windsurfing-mistakes-solved.html

I thought I would do a similar list on my site on the top 8 windsurfing mistakes I see over and over and over again. As usual I would love to hear any feedback and maybe some ideas of what you think should be included in this list :)

You can check it out at howtowindsurf101.com/windsurfing-mistakes/

Thanks in advance for the feedback!
petermac33
petermac33

WA

6415 posts

8 Jan 2016 4:25am
I agree with both articles and will add a few more.


Dont use a wave board or freestyle board on the river for sailing back and forth. And no wave sails or like for river sailing.

Will limit your planing time---so buy a slalom sail and board.

And definitely no weed fins when there is no weed.

It will limit your upwind ability and general speed.

Too much outhaul is the single biggest mistake I see,along with sailors not powering up their harness--- using their arms to resist the power of the sail.


Faff
Faff

VIC

1394 posts

8 Jan 2016 7:36am
Point 5.

That's why I swapped the europin for a US cup. The europin caused me so much grief as a beginner, as I often had carry my gear back up wind and disconnected the rig from the board to make it easier.
Gorgo
Gorgo

VIC

5108 posts

8 Jan 2016 8:26am
Number 12 should be the first one. Every single windsurfer in the world does that every single time.
Ezric
Ezric

NSW

183 posts

8 Jan 2016 9:23am
Looks like I have been one of those kooks unrolling my sail downwind. How embarrassing!
snides8
snides8

WA

1731 posts

8 Jan 2016 6:39am
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petermac33 said..
I agree with both articles and will add a few more.


Dont use a wave board or freestyle board on the river for sailing back and forth. And no wave sails or like for river sailing.

Will limit your planing time---so buy a slalom sail and board.

And definitely no weed fins when there is no weed.

It will limit your upwind ability and general speed.

Too much outhaul is the single biggest mistake I see,along with sailors not powering up their harness--- using their arms to resist the power of the sail.




Got to agree with Pete on the weed fins- don't use one unless there is actually weed present while sailing....
i have witnessed MANY (and bandaged up a few) major leg/shin lacerations because of razor sharp leading edges protruding
past the tail of a board.
lao shi
lao shi

WA

1343 posts

8 Jan 2016 7:23am
I can't believe no one has said it yet....... not enough downhaul!
da vecta
da vecta

QLD

2515 posts

8 Jan 2016 9:37am
#16 Kitesurfing
Gorgo
Gorgo

VIC

5108 posts

8 Jan 2016 10:44am
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HTW101 said..
Hey guys!

...

I thought I would do a similar list on my site on the top 8 windsurfing mistakes I see over and over and over again. As usual I would love to hear any feedback and maybe some ideas of what you think should be included in this list :)

You can check it out at howtowindsurf101.com/windsurfing-mistakes/

Thanks in advance for the feedback!


It's not a mistake as such but, choose your sail for the gusts and your board for the lulls. i.e.. Small sail so you can handle the gusts and big board so you can float through the lulls. Get the combination right and you're planing and having fun the whole time.
Subsonic
Subsonic

WA

3384 posts

8 Jan 2016 8:00am
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petermac33 said...


Too much outhaul is the single biggest mistake I see,along with sailors not powering up their harness--- using their arms to resist the power of the sail.





Petey's right on this one too. Gotta keep the weight in the harness, and not hold the weight of the sail with your arms. It's an easy habit to hold onto from learner days.

(Guilty as charged)

If you can't sail round one handed or even sail no hands briefly then something needs changing.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy

NSW

8292 posts

8 Jan 2016 11:12am
Good links. I'm a flyweight but my early planing technique is lousy. I use the excuse of age and lack of fitness ( don't want to pump). Those techniques are great so I will have to put them into practise.
I know my worst habit is that bent front arm - one I've got from survival sailing and also sailing underfinned.. I just feel safer with it closer to the mast as I feel I can unhook / depower earlier and don't feel safe to push on the fin and hang out.. a point to work at for 2016 ..
Ian K
Ian K

WA

4164 posts

8 Jan 2016 8:41am
#2. Not so long ago the tick and the cross were the other way around on safety grounds. If you can see your big toe and no more, so the argument went, it will rotate out at the 2nd joint from the front as you trebuchet forwards. Harty demonstrated this on the beach in one of his videos. But all crashes are different and those two, having dabbled in freestyle, have done more crashing than 50 of us old timers all put together.




Mastbender
Mastbender

1972 posts

8 Jan 2016 8:45am
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sboardcrazy said..
Good links. I'm a flyweight but my early planing technique is lousy. I use the excuse of age and lack of fitness ( don't want to pump). Those techniques are great so I will have to put them into practise.
I know my worst habit is that bent front arm - one I've got from survival sailing and also sailing underfinned.. I just feel safer with it closer to the mast as I feel I can unhook / depower earlier and don't feel safe to push on the fin and hang out.. a point to work at for 2016 ..



No offense, but you can plainly see that in your avatar, along with a bent body. A better technique will lead to a better avatar.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy

NSW

8292 posts

8 Jan 2016 11:50am
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Ezric said..
Looks like I have been one of those kooks unrolling my sail downwind. How embarrassing!


Where was that tip? I'm guilty of that. What do they say to do?
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy

NSW

8292 posts

8 Jan 2016 11:56am
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Mastbender said..






sboardcrazy said..
Good links. I'm a flyweight but my early planing technique is lousy. I use the excuse of age and lack of fitness ( don't want to pump). Those techniques are great so I will have to put them into practise.
I know my worst habit is that bent front arm - one I've got from survival sailing and also sailing underfinned.. I just feel safer with it closer to the mast as I feel I can unhook / depower earlier and don't feel safe to push on the fin and hang out.. a point to work at for 2016 ..









No offense, but you can plainly see that in your avatar, along with a bent body. A better technique will lead to a better avatar.





I know I want to improve my stance but I'm confused. I went to the Guy Cribb stance and he said arse out / nose near the boom / straight legs ( not bent arms like I have though)..so for ages I was aiming for that and in the course he held me up as the stance to aim for .. Now I'm told I should have straight arms and legs?

Still confused as to what is a good stance ? ( For speed sailing..) Does it vary between B & J and speedsailing?
2016 is the year I aim to improve stance and gybing.
westozwind
westozwind

WA

1416 posts

8 Jan 2016 10:13am
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petermac33 said..
I agree with both articles and will add a few more.


Dont use a wave board or freestyle board on the river for sailing back and forth. And no wave sails or like for river sailing.





Freestyle boards do plane early and the river is a perfect spot for freestyle. Not eveyone is there to try and go fast. A very blinkered view. Even for BaFing (Backwards and Forwarding) they can be fun.
It's like saying no slalom boards in the ocean as its choppy and only bump and jump boards should be used.
sail what you want, where you want and enjoy!
N1GEL
N1GEL

NSW

861 posts

8 Jan 2016 1:33pm
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petermac33 said..
Dont use a wave board or freestyle board on the river. And no wave sails or like for river sailing.


Not sure I'd want anything except those on the Hood River.



Haggar
Haggar

QLD

1670 posts

8 Jan 2016 1:20pm
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sboardcrazy said..

Mastbender said..







sboardcrazy said..
Good links. I'm a flyweight but my early planing technique is lousy. I use the excuse of age and lack of fitness ( don't want to pump). Those techniques are great so I will have to put them into practise.
I know my worst habit is that bent front arm - one I've got from survival sailing and also sailing underfinned.. I just feel safer with it closer to the mast as I feel I can unhook / depower earlier and don't feel safe to push on the fin and hang out.. a point to work at for 2016 ..










No offense, but you can plainly see that in your avatar, along with a bent body. A better technique will lead to a better avatar.






I know I want to improve my stance but I'm confused. I went to the Guy Cribb stance and he said arse out / nose near the boom / straight legs ( not bent arms like I have though)..so for ages I was aiming for that and in the course he held me up as the stance to aim for .. Now I'm told I should have straight arms and legs?

Still confused as to what is a good stance ? ( For speed sailing..) Does it vary between B & J and speedsailing?
2016 is the year I aim to improve stance and gybing.


Sue, totally agree with you, Cribby maintains the bent low stance approach to put maximum leveraged pressure on the rig particularly in chop. I have used this technique extensivley since the boot camp and it is very effective. I now use a combination of various stances, sometimes bent/leveraged, and somtimes straight. This is also great for doing big k's as you can vary your stance and reduced tired muscles and cramps. This fact sheet covers it, you may need to register your email to access

www.guycribb.com/userfiles/documents/downforce.pdf

The thing with windusrfing is that there can be a lot of styles and techniques to acheive the same goal, find the one the is right for you !
kato
kato

VIC

3513 posts

8 Jan 2016 2:42pm
Having a chat before and after is all part of the social fun.

Can't agree with the foot strap positions, maybe for freestyle. At best I can see my big toe through the strap.

But I am colour coordinated
racerX
racerX

463 posts

8 Jan 2016 12:10pm
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petermac33 said...
I agree with both articles and will add a few more.


Dont use a wave board or freestyle board on the river for sailing back and forth. And no wave sails or like for river sailing.



Freestyle boards make excellent river board's, same rocker line as a slalom board, but with more playfull shape. Great for improving,
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy

NSW

8292 posts

8 Jan 2016 4:12pm
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Haggar said..

sboardcrazy said..


Mastbender said..








sboardcrazy said..
Good links. I'm a flyweight but my early planing technique is lousy. I use the excuse of age and lack of fitness ( don't want to pump). Those techniques are great so I will have to put them into practise.
I know my worst habit is that bent front arm - one I've got from survival sailing and also sailing underfinned.. I just feel safer with it closer to the mast as I feel I can unhook / depower earlier and don't feel safe to push on the fin and hang out.. a point to work at for 2016 ..











No offense, but you can plainly see that in your avatar, along with a bent body. A better technique will lead to a better avatar.







I know I want to improve my stance but I'm confused. I went to the Guy Cribb stance and he said arse out / nose near the boom / straight legs ( not bent arms like I have though)..so for ages I was aiming for that and in the course he held me up as the stance to aim for .. Now I'm told I should have straight arms and legs?

Still confused as to what is a good stance ? ( For speed sailing..) Does it vary between B & J and speedsailing?
2016 is the year I aim to improve stance and gybing.



Sue, totally agree with you, Cribby maintains the bent low stance approach to put maximum leveraged pressure on the rig particularly in chop. I have used this technique extensivley since the boot camp and it is very effective. I now use a combination of various stances, sometimes bent/leveraged, and somtimes straight. This is also great for doing big k's as you can vary your stance and reduced tired muscles and cramps. This fact sheet covers it, you may need to register your email to access

www.guycribb.com/userfiles/documents/downforce.pdf

The thing with windusrfing is that there can be a lot of styles and techniques to acheive the same goal, find the one the is right for you !


I was getting so confused.. I'll chase up some stuff re speed sailing stance and practise that when I can and maybe stick with what you do for chop..
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy

NSW

8292 posts

8 Jan 2016 4:12pm
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kato said..
Having a chat before and after is all part of the social fun.

Can't agree with the foot strap positions, maybe for freestyle. At best I can see my big toe through the strap.

But I am colour coordinated


Love the green colours I saw you with in pics..
Reflex Films
Reflex Films

WA

1459 posts

8 Jan 2016 1:29pm
or too much downhaul and outhaul...

sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy

NSW

8292 posts

8 Jan 2016 4:54pm
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Ezric said..
Looks like I have been one of those kooks unrolling my sail downwind. How embarrassing!



Where was that tip? I'm guilty of that. What do they say to do?


How are you supposed to unroll / rig your sail?
lao shi
lao shi

WA

1343 posts

8 Jan 2016 1:56pm
The ultimate speed stance from the Slow One!


sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy

NSW

8292 posts

8 Jan 2016 5:23pm
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lao shi said..
The ultimate speed stance from the Slow One!



Ok. Thanks. so pretty upright...
westozwind
westozwind

WA

1416 posts

8 Jan 2016 2:24pm
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lao shi said..
The ultimate speed stance from the Slow One!



Pfffft. What would he know
Harrow
Harrow

NSW

4521 posts

8 Jan 2016 5:25pm
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Gorgo said..
It's not a mistake as such but, choose your sail for the gusts and your board for the lulls. i.e.. Small sail so you can handle the gusts and big board so you can float through the lulls. Get the combination right and you're planing and having fun the whole time.


Great comment!
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy

NSW

8292 posts

8 Jan 2016 5:27pm
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Thanks.Cripes you wouldn't want to crash that close to the wall!
AUS1111
AUS1111

WA

3621 posts

8 Jan 2016 2:28pm
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N1GEL said..

petermac33 said..
Dont use a wave board or freestyle board on the river. And no wave sails or like for river sailing.



Not sure I'd want anything except those on the Hood River.




That's for sure! (except that is the Columbia River)

The Hood River is best kept for kayaks.
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