Great board design also, his spoon, we used to sail with him quite a bit here in California in the late 80's. But in all that time I only saw one other person use a spoon that he built, his good friend Charlie Coffee. Everything else he built was used mostly only by himself, all of it cutting edge stuff, mostly booms (carbon), masts (carbon and skinny), and sails (dbl luff w/ carbon battens), everything else worked great but was questionable for the mass market.