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JP Excite Ride 110 versus Jp supersport 109

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sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy

NSW

8292 posts

25 Aug 2013 2:54pm
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pepe47 said..

My confusion has cost me around $11,000 so far!
Had I stuck to the Rockets, I could have bought a new car to put them in.


Cripes..just when I thought I knew what I was going to do..
I may be able to demo a 106ltre Excocet Scross even though it's only 106ltres its wider than the 115 rocket.
I suppose I really need to try some boards to see what a 105 or 115 Rocket feels like . I've only ever sailed the rockets ( modern boards). The problem is where I sail in winter there are mainly only slalom boards suited to flat water. I can't seem to catch up with you Moby.
Pepe what were you chasing and why do you keep coming back to the rockets?
pepe47
pepe47

WA

1382 posts

25 Aug 2013 1:16pm
I found that the Rocket was easy to get used to and very forgiving in the gybes, but probably a little predictable and I felt that it was lacking that bit of mongrel that (I believe) typifies the average slalom board, but after changing to starboard, RRD, F2, I believe the whole exercise could have been achieved by just changing the fin!! I sail in a mostly weedy environment and predominantly use weed fins and my search for the perfect weed fin goes on. But, by using a slalom fin when the weed clears up the board behaves completely different. I found the inner mongrel, if you like.
There's always a trade off, a freeride board won't go as well as a slalom board, but a slalom board won't be as forgiving as a freeride board. I guess, for me, comfort takes precedence over speed, and if you sail comfortably your speed increases.
GazMan
GazMan

WA

847 posts

25 Aug 2013 8:07pm
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pepe47 said..

I found that the Rocket was easy to get used to and very forgiving in the gybes, but probably a little predictable and I felt that it was lacking that bit of mongrel that (I believe) typifies the average slalom board, but after changing to starboard, RRD, F2, I believe the whole exercise could have been achieved by just changing the fin!! I sail in a mostly weedy environment and predominantly use weed fins and my search for the perfect weed fin goes on. But, by using a slalom fin when the weed clears up the board behaves completely different. I found the inner mongrel, if you like.
There's always a trade off, a freeride board won't go as well as a slalom board, but a slalom board won't be as forgiving as a freeride board. I guess, for me, comfort takes precedence over speed, and if you sail comfortably your speed increases.

Re changing fin on Rocket, what slalom fins have worked well for you?

Recently picked up two JP Supersport fins from WSP and keen to see how my Rocket 95 performs with these.
racerX
racerX

463 posts

26 Aug 2013 4:20am
Why not sell your 125 and replace with 68 wide slalom something like a 110. That a much better setup for your light wind sailing. IMHO The sweet spot for something like that is 7.8. I have75 wide slalom with an 8.5 and its perfect for 75kgs. Then switch gears to the rocket ffree ride when its actually windy.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy

NSW

8292 posts

26 Aug 2013 7:50am
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racerX said..

Why not sell your 125 and replace with 68 wide slalom something like a 110. That a much better setup for your light wind sailing. IMHO The sweet spot for something like that is 7.8. I have75 wide slalom with an 8.5 and its perfect for 75kgs. Then switch gears to the rocket ffree ride when its actually windy.


I imagine the slalom could get a handful in 1 ' + chop? I'm like Pepe I like comfort.I'm getting older and I could probably handle a slalom but I'd wear out quickly.
I'll be interested to see what I think of the Exocet if we can line up a demo.
I might start another topic to get some user feedback on the Scross. Interesting to look around at all the options.
pepe47
pepe47

WA

1382 posts

26 Aug 2013 8:35am
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GazMan said..

pepe47 said..

I found that the Rocket was easy to get used to and very forgiving in the gybes, but probably a little predictable and I felt that it was lacking that bit of mongrel that (I believe) typifies the average slalom board, but after changing to starboard, RRD, F2, I believe the whole exercise could have been achieved by just changing the fin!! I sail in a mostly weedy environment and predominantly use weed fins and my search for the perfect weed fin goes on. But, by using a slalom fin when the weed clears up the board behaves completely different. I found the inner mongrel, if you like.
There's always a trade off, a freeride board won't go as well as a slalom board, but a slalom board won't be as forgiving as a freeride board. I guess, for me, comfort takes precedence over speed, and if you sail comfortably your speed increases.

Re changing fin on Rocket, what slalom fins have worked well for you?

Recently picked up two JP Supersport fins from WSP and keen to see how my Rocket 95 performs with these.


Super sports work well on the Rockets. And you don't need to rebox them, also I've been using Mfc liquid pro's which work very well and just got 3 choco fireblades for the weedless days.
My 125 has been converted to tuttle box by Steve Stratfold as I think two bolts on the larger fins/boards are more secure. Steve's also looking for a cobra tuttle box for the 115 also, but there are not too many about.
paddymac
paddymac

WA

941 posts

29 Aug 2013 11:29pm
Hey Sue, just saw this www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Windsurfing-Boards/~a0ex9/2008-Tabou-Rocket-105-litres.aspx

I always thinks there is a significant benefit of having a consistent quiver if you can achieve it for the $.

Reg is always open to winter deals!
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy

NSW

8292 posts

30 Aug 2013 10:15am
Whatever I buy I finally have a little money to play with so I'm going to spoil myself with pref a 2010 model onwards.. Nothing wrong with my 2008 ones but I'm itching to find out if boards have actually improved in the last few years..
Going to have a 106 + 115 Excocet Scross to demo in the next few weeks ..now we just need wind!
Yves
Yves

WA

134 posts

30 Aug 2013 9:42am
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paddymac said..

Hey Sue, just saw this www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Windsurfing-Boards/~a0ex9/2008-Tabou-Rocket-105-litres.aspx

I always thinks there is a significant benefit of having a consistent quiver if you can achieve it for the $.

Reg is always open to winter deals!


This looks like a 2010 model
GazMan
GazMan

WA

847 posts

31 Aug 2013 12:03am
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Yves said..

paddymac said..

Hey Sue, just saw this www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Windsurfing-Boards/~a0ex9/2008-Tabou-Rocket-105-litres.aspx

I always thinks there is a significant benefit of having a consistent quiver if you can achieve it for the $.

Reg is always open to winter deals!


This looks like a 2010 model


Says 'item unavailable' at link so must have gone already, though a couple of 105 Rockets for sale elsewhere in WA:

www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Windsurfing-Boards/~a0md3/2011-Tabou-Rocket-105-litres.aspx&t=0

2nd Wind in Perth have a 2012 105 listed: http://www.2ndwind.com.au/products-used/used-boards.asp
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy

NSW

8292 posts

31 Aug 2013 12:42pm
Test sailing a few exocets..review here..I got the name wrong in the topic it's an Xcross 115ltre- keen to try the 106 + 115 off coal in the right conditions but not sure if we'll get any NE wind soon..
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Review/Exocet-Scross-115ltres-2013/
jn1
jn1

jn1

SA

2683 posts

31 Aug 2013 8:37pm
Why the red thumbs ?. She is only asking questions. If it's annoying you, don't read. FFS
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy

NSW

8292 posts

18 Sep 2013 9:07pm
I've ended up buying an Excocet Xcross 115ltres.. great fun! If you want to read the latest it's in the gear review..
Stuthepirate
Stuthepirate

SA

3591 posts

18 Sep 2013 9:30pm
Finally!
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