Nobody is trying to win friends or group hug.
A dose of reality, told as is, is what's needed.
Anyone saying rec foiling can approach rec windsurf speed is an ......

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LeeD said..
Nobody is trying to win friends or group hug.

certainly trying to give a dying thread some more fuel though. Go enjoy your 24" lines. trying to convince the pair of you that you can have an easier time of it is pointless. Ive honestly had more productive discussions with a dog.

Come sail with me, at Berkeley. You will be dusted by my 24" lines, and I'm 73.

Oh, I don't do freestyle.

I don't even measure my harness lines. I just adjust them (and the boom height) until they feel right. I use the Sailworks lines.

We don't need to overthink this. Just tweak until it works. Then go out and foil your brains out. Wipe the smile off your face at the end.

Patrik are introducing an adjustable set of lines which can adjust with either hand, specifically for foil, with no swing even at full length. 28-42"!!!

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Awalkspoiled said..
Patrik are introducing an adjustable set of lines which can adjust with either hand, specifically for foil, with no swing even at full length. 28-42"!!!

Thanks for the update Ben Profit.

I have the new Patrik 28-42 lines on my 3 foil-riggs. With the clamcleat system on the sailarm side and the concentional system on the boom head side. The lines don't swing and are working as wanted (the price is a bit too high compared to the others).

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t36 said..
I have the new Patrik 28-42 lines on my 3 foil-riggs. With the clamcleat system on the sailarm side and the concentional system on the boom head side. The lines don't swing and are working as wanted (the price is a bit too high compared to the others).

I'd really like those lines. The race lines I have swing so much that it's easy to accidentally hook when pumping or during a jibe. I've crashed a few foiling jibes due to that... (but that also says something about my skills)

Those lines were talked about in Ben Ps Defi wind gear roundup, about 45s in.

Makes sense that really long lines would get hard to manage, so reduce the swing. I'm just the opposite using small sails and short lines. I like mine to swing freely. I cut all the support webbing off so they would swing, drop out and away of the hook for jibing. With short rigid lines, I would often rehook by accident when jibing. Although it did force me to sail clew first which I never tried before .

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t36 said..
I have the new Patrik 28-42 lines on my 3 foil-riggs. With the clamcleat system on the sailarm side and the concentional system on the boom head side. The lines don't swing and are working as wanted (the price is a bit too high compared to the others).

Do you mind to share the price and where you bought them from? Per same video, or the other one about the Defi Villa, Point-7 is coming up with new foiling lines too

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WsurfAustin said..
Makes sense that really long lines would get hard to manage, so reduce the swing. I'm just the opposite using small sails and short lines. I like mine to swing freely. I cut all the support webbing off so they would swing, drop out and away of the hook for jibing. With short rigid lines, I would often rehook by accident when jibing. Although it did force me to sail clew first which I never tried before .

Agree, I have hooked a rigid line by accident, and use short lines too, with the Sailworks Quiktune lines I have the tube cut so that it is inside the cleat at the minimum setting, which means both ends of the tube are locked in place, that allows me to use a thumb to flip the line out of hook when needed (Guy Cribb tip), but lines still swing too because attachment between the cleat side, and other end of tube, to boom is flexible.

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t36 said..
I have the new Patrik 28-42 lines on my 3 foil-riggs. With the clamcleat system on the sailarm side and the concentional system on the boom head side. The lines don't swing and are working as wanted (the price is a bit too high compared to the others).

Do you mind to share the price and where you bought them from? Per same video, or the other one about the Defi Villa, Point-7 is coming up with new foiling lines too

129 Euro (200 austral Dollars) for one set - over a German Patrik Proshop with very good connections :-)

They are the best racing vario harness lines, what I have ever used.