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Legion said...

I'm sure there are some that I'd get on well with. I could list a bunch of names of people who know what's up from the SUP forum. But there are a whole heap more that obviously don't know a thing about the beach and waves and the water and that scares the hell out of me.

I don't know how I'm going to deal with them as they become pervasive. I was at Kearnsy's one time last winter when a guy dropped in on me on his backhand, saw me, vaguely tried to pull off with some kind of pooman rail grab thing, kooked it, got sucked over the falls and his board hit me in the head as I went past. And then he looked like he wanted to fight me when I swore at him when I paddled back out, like it was my fault. What do I do when the board that hits me is 10' and 150L, and what do I do when the kook that wants to fight me is standing over me with a paddle in their hand?

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well what do you know! the same old same old. don't you guys (legion, doggie) ever get sick of repeating yourselves. And if you look far enough back its the short boarders who are the newbies.
I have surfed for 34 years, short board, windsurfing and now sup. there is no them and us in my book. You may have given sup a go boys but could you do it. Its easy to sit and laugh and ridicule when your not willing to have a go.
Yes I agree there is a place for sup its when there is a descent wave and little or no wind.
I recently travelled back to my old stomping ground just north of newcastle had a great time on sup and shortie, its funny I could catch as many waves on the shortie but as soon as I was on sup and caught a prime wave I was told to f@$k off. once I explained to the ignorant sob he didn't own the waves we were right.

some of you will know me and some wont, mr elbeau and my goodself spoke about this the other day and this man obviously has his head on right , sups have a place and it dosent seem to be universally agreed upon,is where they fit in . obviously they fit where ever they want as nothing has the paddling power, but can there not be a prerequisite for ownership of sups? one has no problem with them per sey but with the operators inability to control them. one also thinks that the people selling them should find out the abilty or lack there of of the punter who wants to ride them.one has a few pre65 mals and they have rego stickers on them so they can find the owner of said boards if they became parted . now one knows that they have leggies so the reasoning is thus..... understand mr sup rider that yes you can get all the waves if desired, but understand that your ability on a short or longboard might be better than intermediate but your suping is more than likley to be novice at best, tully stjohn you aint!!!!!! so ride them accordingly (like away from everyone) i have seen the damage these things can do first hand and they can be a menace in the wrong hands or heads what ever the case maybe, is not the first priority the safety of yourself and others when your surfing a crowded area? or is that thinking maybe a little regressive? anyhoo one is the only self appointed surfing "royalty" on this site and as such will reveal that one is an absolute "pro"(big thank you to mrs bigwaynes bank account) and if you are lacking the knowledge on anything at all drop one a line and one will do what one can to help the great unwashed masses with their problems. no one can accuse one of not being in touch with his subjects

this was bought to you by bigwayne "royal" agony aunt , heavywieght contender and all round top bloke

Can't stand the bastards. Mid life crisis blokes in Hawaiian shorts and rashies thinking they're surfers.
Most of them have no board control, no concept of snaking and dropping in. With boards and things that big it becomes very dangerous. Don't care if they stay away from me, but can't stand surfing when they're around.

Granted, there are a FEW guys out there that can actually do cool things on these big boards and show respect to other waves riders....but they are rare.

SUPs have replaced boogers as my most hated water people....actually, I reserve that place for kite surfers

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subasurf said...

Can't stand the bastards. Mid life crisis blokes in Hawaiian shorts and rashies thinking they're surfers.
Most of them have no board control, no concept of snaking and dropping in. With boards and things that big it becomes very dangerous. Don't care if they stay away from me, but can't stand surfing when they're around.

Granted, there are a FEW guys out there that can actually do cool things on these big boards and show respect to other waves riders....but they are rare.

SUPs have replaced boogers as my most hated water people....actually, I reserve that place for kite surfers

Its a shame some supriders are like that, but for the most in my experience are not.
I have been snaked and dropped in by many more shorties than I care to count, and if we're honest have done a bit ourselves. (I ride sup and short and also windsurf) lucky I'm not a kiter ah. The thing about the size is valid we do have to be mindfull of others, please enquire as to why surf clubs still row their large boats through crowded surf beaches when they are no longer used as rescue craft or why they paddle their paddleboards without a leash. All in all brother you are better off learning to live with it and enjoy life no matter what you ride, you'll be happier.

Yeah you're definitely right. It's not like it eats me up inside or totally rages me when I'm in the lineout. The thread was started so I figured I'd chime in

I'm not a prick to them either. Been plenty of times when I've paddled over and picked up the paddle and returned it to a SUPer who's had a wipeout. I'm all for sharing the waves but I must admit, I quietly swear to myself when I see another paddle boarder paddling over to the line out

There's one other thing that bothers me. It's always been a rule of who ever is inside nearest the break gets right of way OR who ever is first to feet...well...SUPers kind of **** that all up hahahah

I don't mind them.

I don't think it's SUP's that are the issue - it's the rider. Same as guns, guns aren't the issue people are. There's pricks in every sport in every country, bit harsh to paint them all with the same brush.

While we we're away on the long weekend couple SUP'ers (all 2 of them) saw that my girlfriend and the other girls (4 or5 of them) in the line up where having issues getting waves from the guys (10 or so) so they started to call the girls into the waves they where already on, super nice guys and they didn't have to be nice at all. I've had the same experiance with some of the goaters at the Bower. Just happy people willing to share a wave, the stoke and have a good time.

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cRAZY Canuk said...

I don't mind them.

I don't think it's SUP's that are the issue - it's the rider. Same as guns, guns aren't the issue people are. There's pricks in every sport in every country, bit harsh to paint them all with the same brush.

While we we're away on the long weekend couple SUP'ers (all 2 of them) saw that my girlfriend and the other girls (4 or5 of them) in the line up where having issues getting waves from the guys (10 or so) so they started to call the girls into the waves they where already on, super nice guys and they didn't have to be nice at all. I've had the same experiance with some of the goaters at the Bower. Just happy people willing to share a wave, the stoke and have a good time.

Generally I agree mate but in the past have had problems with guys that are very good on them.

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cRAZY Canuk said...

I don't mind them.

I don't think it's SUP's that are the issue - it's the rider. Same as guns, guns aren't the issue people are. There's pricks in every sport in every country, bit harsh to paint them all with the same brush.

While we we're away on the long weekend couple SUP'ers (all 2 of them) saw that my girlfriend and the other girls (4 or5 of them) in the line up where having issues getting waves from the guys (10 or so) so they started to call the girls into the waves they where already on, super nice guys and they didn't have to be nice at all. I've had the same experiance with some of the goaters at the Bower. Just happy people willing to share a wave, the stoke and have a good time.

Watch out, they steal girlfriends just like they steal waves!

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cRAZY Canuk said...

I don't mind them.

I don't think it's SUP's that are the issue - it's the rider. Same as guns, guns aren't the issue people are. There's pricks in every sport in every country, bit harsh to paint them all with the same brush.

While we we're away on the long weekend couple SUP'ers (all 2 of them) saw that my girlfriend and the other girls (4 or5 of them) in the line up where having issues getting waves from the guys (10 or so) so they started to call the girls into the waves they where already on, super nice guys and they didn't have to be nice at all. I've had the same experiance with some of the goaters at the Bower. Just happy people willing to share a wave, the stoke and have a good time.

Well said,clap your hands clap your hands,sorry thats all I know of that song

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P co said...

cRAZY Canuk said...

I don't mind them.

I don't think it's SUP's that are the issue - it's the rider. Same as guns, guns aren't the issue people are. There's pricks in every sport in every country, bit harsh to paint them all with the same brush.

While we we're away on the long weekend couple SUP'ers (all 2 of them) saw that my girlfriend and the other girls (4 or5 of them) in the line up where having issues getting waves from the guys (10 or so) so they started to call the girls into the waves they where already on, super nice guys and they didn't have to be nice at all. I've had the same experiance with some of the goaters at the Bower. Just happy people willing to share a wave, the stoke and have a good time.

Watch out, they steal girlfriends just like they steal waves!

nah - with the amount of grey hair on these 2 had I wasn't worried.

Hey Legion, I don't know you from a bar of soap, but you're a legend and know what's going on! I vote for you for Prime Minister of surfing mate!

The vast vast majority of these stand ups are washed up, over weight, rich men with too much money. I think they're scum. Fair enough on a reef break and you take one every hour, I can maybe live with that. But beach break, you're a bloody hazard.

These are the words to live by here, have a listen... Just because you have a bigger board, doesn't mean you're a better surfer. You are infact, worse.

I keep myself in peak physical shape and paddle a thin board very hard. These old boys roll up 20kg over weight and think they own the joint; they don't! Rise up! Give the mals and paddles no respect! They're scum!

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Geoffro said...

Hey Legion, I don't know you from a bar of soap, but you're a legend and know what's going on! I vote for you for Prime Minister of surfing mate!

The vast vast majority of these stand ups are washed up, over weight, rich men with too much money. I think they're scum. Fair enough on a reef break and you take one every hour, I can maybe live with that. But beach break, you're a bloody hazard.

These are the words to live by here, have a listen... Just because you have a bigger board, doesn't mean you're a better surfer. You are infact, worse.

I keep myself in peak physical shape and paddle a thin board very hard. These old boys roll up 20kg over weight and think they own the joint; they don't! Rise up! Give the mals and paddles no respect! They're scum!

Hey, I'm overweight.....lets not turn this topic into a fatty witch hunt...more cushion for the pushin my friend...as far as SUP - I don't think they're scum, I reserve that for the Liberal party -

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Geoffro said...

Hey Legion, I don't know you from a bar of soap, but you're a legend and know what's going on! I vote for you for Prime Minister of surfing mate!

The vast vast majority of these stand ups are washed up, over weight, rich men with too much money. I think they're scum. Fair enough on a reef break and you take one every hour, I can maybe live with that. But beach break, you're a bloody hazard.

These are the words to live by here, have a listen... Just because you have a bigger board, doesn't mean you're a better surfer. You are infact, worse.

I keep myself in peak physical shape and paddle a thin board very hard. These old boys roll up 20kg over weight and think they own the joint; they don't! Rise up! Give the mals and paddles no respect! They're scum!

Hey geoffy, those that are fat are probably trying to do something about their condition, its called exercising and sup is a fantastic way of going about it.
Build a bridge mate

Paddle in the river. Not where I am. And eat well.

(Do remember this is the short board forum, I haven't come onto the SUP forum and caused trouble. I'm assuming my audience is fellow shortboarders, who like to do cool things such as turns.)

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Geoffro said...

Hey Legion, I don't know you from a bar of soap, but you're a legend and know what's going on! I vote for you for Prime Minister of surfing mate!

The vast vast majority of these stand ups are washed up, over weight, rich men with too much money. I think they're scum. Fair enough on a reef break and you take one every hour, I can maybe live with that. But beach break, you're a bloody hazard.

These are the words to live by here, have a listen... Just because you have a bigger board, doesn't mean you're a better surfer. You are infact, worse.

I keep myself in peak physical shape and paddle a thin board very hard. These old boys roll up 20kg over weight and think they own the joint; they don't! Rise up! Give the mals and paddles no respect! They're scum!

Hey Geoffro

Tell this bloke he is scum. At least not all of us have such a narrow minded view as you do. Your a real champ.

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micksmith said...

Geoffro said...

Hey Legion, I don't know you from a bar of soap, but you're a legend and know what's going on! I vote for you for Prime Minister of surfing mate!

The vast vast majority of these stand ups are washed up, over weight, rich men with too much money. I think they're scum. Fair enough on a reef break and you take one every hour, I can maybe live with that. But beach break, you're a bloody hazard.

These are the words to live by here, have a listen... Just because you have a bigger board, doesn't mean you're a better surfer. You are infact, worse.

I keep myself in peak physical shape and paddle a thin board very hard. These old boys roll up 20kg over weight and think they own the joint; they don't! Rise up! Give the mals and paddles no respect! They're scum!

Hey Geoffro

Tell this bloke he is scum. At least not all of us have such a narrow minded view as you do. Your a real champ.

Just quietly - that clip is F*C*I*G Awsome

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Geoffro said...

Paddle in the river. Not where I am. And eat well.

(Do remember this is the short board forum, I haven't come onto the SUP forum and caused trouble. I'm assuming my audience is fellow shortboarders, who like to do cool things such as turns.)

No thanks, and I am a short boarder have been since 1974, just that I enjoy all types of sports. sup is a really good way of improving fitness and enjoying a reef or point break that would otherwise require a great deal of wasted energy just to get to.

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micksmith said...

Geoffro said...

Hey Legion, I don't know you from a bar of soap, but you're a legend and know what's going on! I vote for you for Prime Minister of surfing mate!

The vast vast majority of these stand ups are washed up, over weight, rich men with too much money. I think they're scum. Fair enough on a reef break and you take one every hour, I can maybe live with that. But beach break, you're a bloody hazard.

These are the words to live by here, have a listen... Just because you have a bigger board, doesn't mean you're a better surfer. You are infact, worse.

I keep myself in peak physical shape and paddle a thin board very hard. These old boys roll up 20kg over weight and think they own the joint; they don't! Rise up! Give the mals and paddles no respect! They're scum!

Hey Geoffro

Tell this bloke he is scum. At least not all of us have such a narrow minded view as you do. Your a real champ.

Come on theres no need for hostility here. I am merely pointing out there are many forms of surfing and all wish to have the same stoke. for any one discipline to try and reserve the ocean for their own satisfaction just isn't on.

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petemc said...

micksmith said...

Geoffro said...

Hey Legion, I don't know you from a bar of soap, but you're a legend and know what's going on! I vote for you for Prime Minister of surfing mate!

The vast vast majority of these stand ups are washed up, over weight, rich men with too much money. I think they're scum. Fair enough on a reef break and you take one every hour, I can maybe live with that. But beach break, you're a bloody hazard.

These are the words to live by here, have a listen... Just because you have a bigger board, doesn't mean you're a better surfer. You are infact, worse.

I keep myself in peak physical shape and paddle a thin board very hard. These old boys roll up 20kg over weight and think they own the joint; they don't! Rise up! Give the mals and paddles no respect! They're scum!

Hey Geoffro

Tell this bloke he is scum. At least not all of us have such a narrow minded view as you do. Your a real champ.

Come on theres no need for hostility here. I am merely pointing out there are many forms of surfing and all wish to have the same stoke. for any one discipline to try and reserve the ocean for their own satisfaction just isn't on.

No hostility here, I also believe that one discipline of surfers trying to claim superiority over others is not on.

Having said that I don't believe SUPs belong in the lineup if pronies are out, they're just too dangerous IMO.

Its interesting to see all of the comments on this thread and think back to when I had the same opinion as some here. How can you bag something before you try it? I'm sure if the sport was that bad people like Gerry, Tom and Laired wouldn't be riding them as well as their shortboards. The thing is whether you like them or not their going to be apart of the line up, just like the kook that is learning on a shortbaord that shouldn't be out there either. At the end of the day its the guy's with experience (shortboards, mals, sup's etc) that should teach the inexperienced crew the rights from wrongs in the line up and if someone wants to be a knob (shortboarder, longboarder, sup etc) then they have no place in any line up as far as I'm concerned.

SUPS have a place, if you show respect and consideration, don't hog all the waves (not possible for me) and don't have attitude out in the water you can't go wrong. Don't just ride one type of board, ride as many different types as possible. The best thing I ever did was to try different boards, it's improved my surfing and windsurfing.

Check out page 111 of the May 2011 edition of Surfer Magazine (US). Naish who are one of the biggest players in the SUP market have a full page ad alerting the rogue SUP riders that respect needs to be shown in the water. The piece goes like this:

"Please use common sense when riding a SUP. Just because you could catch every wave doesnt mean you should. Learn the line-up. Respect other surfers, Respect the rotation. If you dont know what that means then dont paddle out. No one likes a wave hog."


I ride a SUP for fitness when its flat or for surfing instead of a mal when small, otherwise its always my shortboard. You will always get wave hogs on all forms of wave craft who have no respect for anyone else, I reckon karma catches up with them. I experienced such a wave hog once and he snapped his board hehe then went in and grabbed another board and snapped that too......quietly laughed my head off!

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Dazza65 said...

Check out page 111 of the May 2011 edition of Surfer Magazine (US). Naish who are one of the biggest players in the SUP market have a full page ad alerting the rogue SUP riders that respect needs to be shown in the water. The piece goes like this:

"Please use common sense when riding a SUP. Just because you could catch every wave doesnt mean you should. Learn the line-up. Respect other surfers, Respect the rotation. If you dont know what that means then dont paddle out. No one likes a wave hog."


I ride a SUP for fitness when its flat or for surfing instead of a mal when small, otherwise its always my shortboard. You will always get wave hogs on all forms of wave craft who have no respect for anyone else, I reckon karma catches up with them. I experienced such a wave hog once and he snapped his board hehe then went in and grabbed another board and snapped that too......quietly laughed my head off!

They quote that on all of their ads, I respect that from a manufacturer.

Sounds like a suck up if you ask me,the damage is DONE.

Naish they make wind surfers

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Makaha said...

Naish they make wind surfers

Really DJ recons they make SUPs as well, must be just taking the sail out of them

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62mac said...

Sounds like a suck up if you ask me,the damage is DONE.

Na I recon its good from someone who makes the stuff. I guess they can put that on all the ads but there is always idiots out there that use their equipment.

I would be interested to see the young blokes in another 20+ years when they have gone through raising a family, working hard to pay the bills, paying the mortgage etc etc they may end up fat, old bald bastards they so vehemently hate but somehow I think it's more about a poor relationship with their fathers , hope for their sake they break the cycle and open their eyes to what life offers rather than being narrow minded young dudes with "tude" you have to love the Naivety of youth, it was a great time and then it finally dawns that you have to grow up yeh it's a bummer but it's fact and when you get old you gotta stay fit by any means and to me that's suppn but what would I know I have only surfed for over 45 years.