Great White = elusive enigmatic? vacuum cleaner of the sea.
Over-reactive Culling = precursor to another extinct creature.
Knowledge = everything.
Nature = will take it's own course.
Time for a beer now.

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Woodo said...

Just don't like to see people get burnt for their opinon, no matter how right or wrong it may be. Maybe that's just me.
That is all.

I'm not burning him for his opinion...I'm burning him for his immature attitude towards the issue. You only have to read his 'contributions' in this thread and previous shark debates to see what I mean.

By all means, have a differing opinion to me...but at least put even just a slight hint up brain power into your comments instead of "KULL KULL KULL HAHA LULZ!" and "OUR SHARKS ARE OUT OF CONTROL"....well...yeah...don't get angry when you're called an idiot.

If someone wants sharks culled and actually can try and justify their opinion then so be it. I'll debate it with them till the cows come home....like I have been doing for the past week and a half. But if people want to just do what waterman does and basically troll with baited comments then I can't help but call them out on their stupidity.

Yes we do cull Roo's. We cull lots each day.
Cull doesn't mean to kill off to dangerously low proportions. In the meaning of this thread it would be to, " SELECT " the problem animal and eliminate the chance of human injury and death. You may argue the word "eliminate", but that is the way we are taught to think at work and life these day's. Our work aims for a 0 injury and 0 death rate, same way I try to plan my day's off.
No one can argue that these sharks play an important part in the ocean, but human safety is number 1 in my mind thought.

Look, I better apologize to you Suba, I have been writing with full intent to stir you up.
I had a reason to spell cull with a K, was cause it looks so much like KILL, KILL, KILL.
Your right I threw the bait out and I got one. You just react so well I thought I would give it a go.
When that poor young fella was taken at bunkers people stirred you up on that thread, I just thought I would give it ago on this one. Not cool, but hey I learnt from my kids.

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WATER MAN said...

Look, I better apologize to you Suba, I have been writing with full intent to stir you up.
I had a reason to spell cull with a K, was cause it looks so much like KILL, KILL, KILL.
Your right I threw the bait out and I got one. You just react so well I thought I would give it a go.
When that poor young fella was taken at bunkers people stirred you up on that thread, I just thought I would give it ago on this one. Not cool, but hey I learnt from my kids.

That's pretty funny waterman. Suba you need to mellow out, at the end of the 2 guys have just lost there lives, and yr busy calling people idiots. Not cool.

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WATER MAN said...

Look, I better apologize to you Suba, I have been writing with full intent to stir you up.
I had a reason to spell cull with a K, was cause it looks so much like KILL, KILL, KILL.
Your right I threw the bait out and I got one. You just react so well I thought I would give it a go.
When that poor young fella was taken at bunkers people stirred you up on that thread, I just thought I would give it ago on this one. Not cool, but hey I learnt from my kids.

haha funny as

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Your right I threw the bait out and I got one. You just react so well I thought I would give it a go...not cool, but hey I learnt from my kids.

Hahaha I could see it from a mile away...yet...like a moth to a flame...couldn't help myself

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WATER MAN said...
but human safety is number 1 in my mind thought.

I wont disagree with this...but...human safety CAN be guaranteed; at least in regards to being attacked by sharks. It's a 100% full proof system. Don't go in the water. I'm still going to persist with my analogy of surfing/diving with climbing mountains. It's a dangerous pursuit. It is something we decide to do. If the risk:reward ratio isn't within levels we can accept then we should chose NOT to do it. If they built a ski-lift to the summit of Everest the world would be a sadder place. In my opinion the same holds true for culling off what is still considered a threatened species...just so surfers can feel a little more safe while they drop into heavy waves over shallow reefs and then drive home amid traffic with other dangerously retarded Perth drivers

This time I have a real question, well 2 questions.
The first is on the tracking graph I have viewed on here the GWS never even come close to the Metro or shore area. Are these just sharks from deep being tracked?
And ( this is a real question not an attack or slander ). I keep reading that the ocean would basically fall apart with out great whites, but when I was fishing in the early part of my life and the whites were on the brink of extinction, the ocean seemed fine. No over breeding of seals or penguins and the local government cleaned up the dead whales on the beach. I can't say that I thought the ocean was dying back then, the only thing was the cray's around Freo. dropped off and heading North was the best place to fish, but that nothing to do with the shark.
Is there any evidence to suggest the ocean is in better shape now with more sharks off the coast. ( remember this is a real question ).

I better go dig through all those journals
It would actually be interesting to see the data to support the theory. But the way I see it, it would take more than one generation for serious effects of shark decline to be recognized. Especially when you're talking about a species of fish that migrates across the worlds oceans.

As for your cray example...I do in know of studies that showed that a drop in shark population lead to an unstable increase in octopus population which in turn caused the cray population to plummet. Whether we're referring to the same 'incident' or not...I wouldn't know off the top of my head.

I spoke to 2 skippers about the decrease of Cray's in the early 80's and got 2 different answers.
The first 1 said it was due to the Americas Cup. He told me the Government paid a heap of fishermen to nick off and fish other places to clean up Freo. and make it a more attractable destination. That does sound credible
The 2nd was more believable. He said the water temp. had heated up and destroyed the stock, he said it took about 7 years for the fishery to become viable.
Both men will not enter the ocean anymore due to our sharky friends.
This was just last night I went searching for this info., and to think some 18 hours later another aquatic lover lost their life. Such a hot topic for most of us on this forum, just makes it feel a little closer to home.