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Artificial reef trial in Perth

Created by sparki sparki  > 9 months ago, 5 Oct 2015
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mazdon
mazdon

1199 posts

14 Oct 2015 2:14pm
^^ would install with divers so low-ish materials cost but probably high installation costs depending on whether they air lift first to bed it down in a trench, or use pegs/anchors initially until the sand comes over it as well.

agree that it is worth a shot given the low impact and ease of removal if it doesn't work or breaks up. i think the City of Albany might be exploring this option for the emu point end of middleton beach, to replicate the old kelp beds that used to be offshore there and had a surfable wave from them as well as reducing wave energy/erosion on the beach. haven't seen any design info though.


should write to geofabrics australia and see what sort of funds it would take to fabriate say 50sqm worth and see if you can crowd fund it for a trial...
DARTH
DARTH

WA

3028 posts

18 Oct 2015 10:57am
This looks good, if they do it.
moohan
moohan

WA

147 posts

18 Oct 2015 12:37pm
And if it doesn't spend all its time broken down.
MickPC
MickPC

8266 posts

18 Oct 2015 12:51pm
Would be great...but I think one of the commenters on the story make a good point about Perth's lack of fresh water. Then goes onto making a much better suggestion of building one in the Swan River. Look how much parking space they provide in the plan for artists impression of the Subi idea, looks like the typical parking space allocated for any public/private facility in that area...if they built one in the swan, they could let the wave flush out & have fresh water flow in to prevent stagnation. So you wouldn't have to worry about spending heaps on chlorinating such a huge body of water & you wouldn't have to keep topping up the water level with scheme water. Maybe put it down near the train station & incorporate it into that revitalization project they're got going already.
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

18 Oct 2015 4:47pm
I love the muppets who write this stuff up - it cracks me up. The Superbank is one hell of a crowded place for a surf and gets its fair share of visitors but apparently this new park in Perf will be even more busy

"He said the all-year round Wavegarden had the potential to bring 300,000 visitors to ­Subiaco each year"


Wow - thats like 821 per day ! Where are they all coming from? Bit of doubling counting one would imagine How man of these will be surfing? How may waves per hour will be coming through ?
PaulyOS
PaulyOS

199 posts

18 Oct 2015 4:45pm
They'll probably end up throwing 20 people in at a time and let sort it out.. I.e - whoever is the deepest gets the wave. Would be a good idea to reinforce surf etiquette by banning people who drop in
Hamsta
Hamsta

505 posts

19 Oct 2015 8:25am
Do you honestly think that residents of Subiaco are going to allow the development of a public wavepool? Typical perthnow attempt at clickbait journalism. Anyone who lives or has lived in Subiaco knows that the area has become very insular and most residents cannot wait for the new stadium to be built at Burswood so that finally the suburb can be rid of the influx of humanity on weekends during the AFL season.
bene313
bene313

WA

1347 posts

19 Oct 2015 10:03am
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Hamsta said..
Do you honestly think that residents of Subiaco are going to allow the development of a public wavepool? Typical perthnow attempt at clickbait journalism. Anyone who lives or has lived in Subiaco knows that the area has become very insular and most residents cannot wait for the new stadium to be built at Burswood so that finally the suburb can be rid of the influx of humanity on weekends during the AFL season.


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DARTH
DARTH

WA

3028 posts

19 Oct 2015 11:05am
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bene313 said..

Hamsta said..
Do you honestly think that residents of Subiaco are going to allow the development of a public wavepool? Typical perthnow attempt at clickbait journalism. Anyone who lives or has lived in Subiaco knows that the area has become very insular and most residents cannot wait for the new stadium to be built at Burswood so that finally the suburb can be rid of the influx of humanity on weekends during the AFL season.



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But they will lose out (foot traffic + pubs) with no football and nothing to replace it. Most people that go to the Subi for the footy would never go there other wise.

Im not saying that you are wrong but if thats the case they are not thinking long term.

Parking will be a problem and noise as well.

Sounds good but I cant see it happening.
sparki
sparki

WA

410 posts

19 Oct 2015 12:49pm
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DARTH said..

bene313 said..


Hamsta said..
Do you honestly think that residents of Subiaco are going to allow the development of a public wavepool? Typical perthnow attempt at clickbait journalism. Anyone who lives or has lived in Subiaco knows that the area has become very insular and most residents cannot wait for the new stadium to be built at Burswood so that finally the suburb can be rid of the influx of humanity on weekends during the AFL season.




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But they will lose out (foot traffic + pubs) with no football and nothing to replace it. Most people that go to the Subi for the footy would never go there other wise.

Im not saying that you are wrong but if thats the case they are not thinking long term.

Parking will be a problem and noise as well.

Sounds good but I cant see it happening.


Subi council has recently taken steps to alleviate parking issues by cutting ties with Wilson parking, freeing up a fair bit of space. But there is no way the surf idea will be approved - especially with multi-storey apartments. Subi is far too conservative.
bene313
bene313

WA

1347 posts

19 Oct 2015 1:35pm
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DARTH said..


But they will lose out (foot traffic + pubs) with no football and nothing to replace it. Most people that go to the Subi for the footy would never go there other wise.

Im not saying that you are wrong but if thats the case they are not thinking long term.

Parking will be a problem and noise as well.

Sounds good but I cant see it happening.


Subi has it's issues for local business and the footy ending is icing on the cake.

The residents' sentiment doesn't help. Eg. opposition to new small bars/restaurants and development generally.

Earlier in the year the old pavilion development was approved despite a backlash from residents and fierce opposition from City of Subiaco itself! The pavillion has been deserted since 2007!

au.news.yahoo.com/subiaco-tower-a-game-changer-26436171.html

So it took a decade to make a decision just to build some apartments + mixed use on the old pavillion site. How can we expect a ginormous wave pool to be be approved in this century
DARTH
DARTH

WA

3028 posts

19 Oct 2015 2:34pm
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bene313 said..

DARTH said..


But they will lose out (foot traffic + pubs) with no football and nothing to replace it. Most people that go to the Subi for the footy would never go there other wise.

Im not saying that you are wrong but if thats the case they are not thinking long term.

Parking will be a problem and noise as well.

Sounds good but I cant see it happening.



Subi has it's issues for local business and the footy ending is icing on the cake.

The residents' sentiment doesn't help. Eg. opposition to new small bars/restaurants and development generally.

Earlier in the year the old pavilion development was approved despite a backlash from residents and fierce opposition from City of Subiaco itself! The pavillion has been deserted since 2007!

au.news.yahoo.com/subiaco-tower-a-game-changer-26436171.html

So it took a decade to make a decision just to build some apartments + mixed use on the old pavillion site. How can we expect a ginormous wave pool to be be approved in this century


I really think its the wrong place to do it. As you said the fun police will kill it
Buster fin
Buster fin

WA

2597 posts

19 Oct 2015 3:48pm
Subi tower huh?

Also $120 mil, huh?

Is there $120 mil allotted for some kind of, nay, any kind of development in the area? Or am I being cynical way too early?

Long term, a fascinating idea is the wave pool, a virtually guaranteed earner for years to come, provided the investors don't get too greedy and out-price it for the average punter a la Rotto.
PaulyOS
PaulyOS

199 posts

19 Oct 2015 5:46pm
Would be more beneficial to allocate these funds towards more artificial reefs
Legion
Legion

WA

2222 posts

19 Oct 2015 7:19pm
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bene313 said..
Earlier in the year the old pavilion development was approved despite a backlash from residents and fierce opposition from City of Subiaco itself! The pavillion has been deserted since 2007!

au.news.yahoo.com/subiaco-tower-a-game-changer-26436171.html

So it took a decade to make a decision just to build some apartments + mixed use on the old pavillion site.


That's because that tower broke a number of local planning rules and is totally out of character. It took Colin's idiot planning minister forcing them by changing the law and overruling/bulldozing Subiaco to allow it.
bene313
bene313

WA

1347 posts

19 Oct 2015 8:34pm
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Legion said...
bene313 said..
Earlier in the year the old pavilion development was approved despite a backlash from residents and fierce opposition from City of Subiaco itself! The pavillion has been deserted since 2007!

au.news.yahoo.com/subiaco-tower-a-game-changer-26436171.html

So it took a decade to make a decision just to build some apartments + mixed use on the old pavillion site.


That's because that tower broke a number of local planning rules and is totally out of character. It took Colin's idiot planning minister forcing them by changing the law and overruling/bulldozing Subiaco to allow it.


Perhaps but, local business desperately needs it. And Perth generally needs urban infill and higher density living (rather than sprawl).
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