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The Red Thumber from Hell...

Created by laurie laurie  > 9 months ago, 18 Mar 2013
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laurie
laurie

WA

3860 posts

18 Mar 2013 2:05pm
The thumbing system was initially built to help moderators with an increasingly out of control Kitesurfing forum. It worked - it culled the idiots, and help moderators keep the forum civil.

Along came the SUP forums, where a few people abused the reds, but not to much great degree.

Then came the Longboard/Surfing forums.

Some members in these forums have used the red thumbs to a whole new level.

Due to feedback in here, we built some analytics to help us look deeper into the usage of thumbs.

And we were shocked at what we found.

I couldn't actually imagine that somebody would abuse the red-thumb system to such a degree as they did.

Specifically, using at least two logins this person dished out 2000+ red thumbs to 300+ individual logins, versus giving 45 green thumbs. Even after triple checking the numbers, I struggle to fathom this happened.

With that level of dissatisfaction, we're left wondering why they visit the forums at all?

These logins have been suspended, and changes are afoot to address things so this can never happen again.

No doubt there are people who say "discard the thumbs altogether", and this is a possibilty, and some people are eager for Seabreeze to become like Google & Facebook where they only have a +1 or "Like" button

Numerous other sites (i.e. YouTube, and most forums) have a +1 / -1 system to help administer things - too bad it was abused here, but we're now addressing this.

By all means, please throw your 2c in here, and be assured it will all go into the mix...
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

18 Mar 2013 2:14pm
Here we go again

All is good again in the greenroom and no guessing why
This news may bring BILLBOARD back,Laurie send BB a PM.
Some serious red thumbing going on I think you should post
all their user names Laurie.

BTW,why can't I green thumb Pup and Chrispy what's the go
with that

riverider
riverider

TAS

1112 posts

18 Mar 2013 5:36pm
I think you should name them so we can see what the caliber of their posts are.
I am happy to keep the reds, you need some sort of balance for green but maybe limit a person to 1 a week or something so they must use them wisely.
My 2c
Tux
Tux

Tux

VIC

3829 posts

18 Mar 2013 5:42pm
3000...time to get out of the dungeon...do you reckon they even had time to get out and get a wave if they were so busy running around thumbing everyone
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

18 Mar 2013 2:56pm
That is just farking bull**** laurie you need to name this person and permanently ban the stalker from ever getting access to this place

Then it needs to be given to the authorities under the cyber laws

Lastly get rid of the thumb system FULL STOP - its just negative and ancient

Jesus all this over the past year from trolls bloody hell mate theres good lads in here and they've just been shat all over and for what???? Showing some heart & stoke and sharing a laugh christ

Name the creepy sick bastard of a thing


Rant over
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

18 Mar 2013 2:59pm
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thePup said...
That is just farking bull**** laurie you need to name this person and permanently ban the stalker from ever getting access to this place

Then it needs to be given to the authorities under the cyber laws

Lastly get rid of the thumb system FULL STOP - its just negative and ancient

Jesus all this over the past year from trolls bloody hell mate theres good lads in here and they've just been shat all over and for what???? Showing some heart & stoke and sharing a laugh christ

Name the creepy sick bastard of a thing


Rant over


Well said Puppy now sit down wag your little tail mate and put the fun hat back on,life is too short.

Enjoy my dribble
Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

18 Mar 2013 6:04pm
Thanks for the update Laurie.

I wonder if it is easy for you to create a "false neutral".

1 Green = 1 Green
0 Thumbs = 0 Thumbs
-1 Red = 0 Thumbs (false neutral - sort of a motorbike gearbox term)
-2 Red = -1 Red Thumbs

With this situation, random stalking from 1 account would have no net effect...
However, if 2 people dish out a red thumb, then the person may have deserved it anyway!!

Just a thought.
obct
obct

NSW

3487 posts

18 Mar 2013 6:12pm
What are "red thumbs"

Legion
Legion

WA

2222 posts

18 Mar 2013 3:17pm
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thePup said...
That is just farking bull**** laurie you need to name this person and permanently ban the stalker from ever getting access to this place

Then it needs to be given to the authorities under the cyber laws


Why?

Is there something in the seabreeze forum rules that says that you're only allowed to give a certain number of red or green thumbs?

Are there national/state laws that say that posting red thumbs contravenes any law?
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

18 Mar 2013 3:19pm
^ its a bit deeper than that but we are not into dragging negative crap up,that's history thank god
boofy
boofy

NSW

2110 posts

18 Mar 2013 6:28pm
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Legion said...
thePup said...
That is just farking bull**** laurie you need to name this person and permanently ban the stalker from ever getting access to this place

Then it needs to be given to the authorities under the cyber laws


Why?

Is there something in the seabreeze forum rules that says that you're only allowed to give a certain number of red or green thumbs?

Are there national/state laws that say that posting red thumbs contravenes any law?


+1 agree with Legion here. I still maintain its a sick little EMO kid living in a bubble all he has in life is his redthumbs. Its so simple just get rid of them its all a little bit embarrassing really and not a conversation you would have in public
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

18 Mar 2013 3:28pm
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62mac said...
^ its a bit deeper than that but we are not into dragging negative crap up,that's history thank god


Who are you talking to did someone post a troll comment mate
billboard
billboard

QLD

2819 posts

18 Mar 2013 5:53pm
I have given some thought as to whether the facebook "like" (only) was of any benefit to the forum but I cant really find any really convincing argument for it - so for me its still "no thumbs at all please".
Having said though Id be happy to continue posting on the site if you did have "likes" ONLY.

Bill
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

18 Mar 2013 4:00pm
Seriously this crap is driving me nuts and away from the forum,screw the trolls trouble makers or lose more members its your call Laurie.
Legion
Legion

WA

2222 posts

18 Mar 2013 4:06pm
I actually think it's hilarious that you all get so upset over such an insignificant thing. I reckon keep it how it is.
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

18 Mar 2013 7:07pm
Thanks Laurie for advising us that it was really just one bad egg in the tray. Now I think we should all just leave it behind and move onwards and upwards. No need for public re-criminations etc Laurie said the log-ons had been suspended so lets just forget about it. Its sad that society so often has to accommodate for the lowest common denominator - not like when its 6ft and heaving and only those that can paddle out get to play
jbshack
jbshack

WA

6913 posts

18 Mar 2013 5:12pm
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Legion said...
I actually think it's hilarious that you all get so upset over such an insignificant thing. I reckon keep it how it is.


If you were in the surf Legion and you saw someone/maybe a grommet getting picked on by others just for a laugh what would you do I'd hope you wouldn't be the bloke causing the grief but would you just ignore it or would you paddle over and say something Serous question i'm curious?
Ctngoodvibes
Ctngoodvibes

WA

1404 posts

18 Mar 2013 5:21pm
Surely it should be obvious who it was given time - as they have been banned and won't be on here anymore. Who really cares anyway. Someone said this was a first world problem and i have to totally agree. It is pretty sad and funny that someone devoted so much energy to thumbing people though.
chrispychru
chrispychru

QLD

7932 posts

18 Mar 2013 7:46pm
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Ctngoodvibes said...
Surely it should be obvious who it was given time - as they have been banned and won't be on here anymore. Who really cares anyway. Someone said this was a first world problem and i have to totally agree. It is pretty sad and funny that someone devoted so much energy to thumbing people though.


thats what i would have posted....plus,wtf 3000 thumbs wtf again. seriously start watching more porn thumb man. and yes legion i agree with your posts. yet i will say again that most people post on here because it is a friendly place without the teenage angst
Legion
Legion

WA

2222 posts

18 Mar 2013 5:49pm
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jbshack said...
Legion said...
I actually think it's hilarious that you all get so upset over such an insignificant thing. I reckon keep it how it is.


If you were in the surf Legion and you saw someone/maybe a grommet getting picked on by others just for a laugh what would you do I'd hope you wouldn't be the bloke causing the grief but would you just ignore it or would you paddle over and say something Serous question i'm curious?


Monitor the situation. When I was a kid, groms got binned, bashed, beaten, teased, food thrown at them, etc, mostly by other older groms. Nowadays they'd get dad to sue you.

If I saw a grom getting picked on and it turned physical and serious then I'd intervene. If I saw a grom getting heckled and teased and he started crying, then I might console him, but inside I'd be thinking "**** me they make them soft these days".

If I saw adults turn on each other then it'd be entirely situation dependent if I chose to physically intervene. If I saw an adult getting heckled and teased and they started crying, then I wouldn't console them and inside I'd be thinking "**** me they make them soft these days".
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

18 Mar 2013 6:06pm
Well a little cop work and we have the answer who this person is,save the PM's I will leave it up to you to figure it out,easy really.
Buster fin
Buster fin

WA

2597 posts

18 Mar 2013 6:13pm
OH NO! I'M IN THE LONGBOARD SECTION!!
Gidday fellas. On another site that I frequented until it got hacked and jacked, users had tags to identify who were regulars/ blow-ins/uber-members etc. Using this idea, you could identify who is a red thumb abuser, and we could pay-out on or ignore him/her/it.
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

18 Mar 2013 8:35pm
this what you get


weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

18 Mar 2013 8:37pm
I just give everyone a red thumb for being on this post,
Now just 2581 red thumbs to go
weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

18 Mar 2013 8:40pm
Sorry Laurie
how come you can't red thumb yourself.
come give me some red
chrispychru
chrispychru

QLD

7932 posts

18 Mar 2013 8:41pm
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weiry said...
Sorry Laurie
how come you can't red thumb yourself.
come give me some red



oops..wrong button
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

18 Mar 2013 6:42pm
I say drop this thread,all has been good for a week now,move on as Ted said.
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

18 Mar 2013 6:45pm
Pfffffffttttt whose shout for the pies Ive got the nectar sorted hey weirsy grab the pole chicks out of the van their lippy wlll be running[}:)]
Asea33 will be signing autographs at 8 WA time

Mct giveaways via mac at 9pm
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

18 Mar 2013 8:49pm
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thePup said...
Pfffffffttttt whose shout for the pies Ive got the nectar sorted hey weirsy grab the pole chicks out of the van their lippy wlll be running[}:)]
Asea33 will be signing autographs at 8 WA time

Mct giveaways via mac at 9pm



when , where, give me, mine, mine, mine, more, more,more, me,me,me. did i tell you i love mct's



ps mac these posts pay the bills- play along now
boofy
boofy

NSW

2110 posts

18 Mar 2013 9:54pm
Makaha would have this shiz sorted in no time I miss him one tough fkr
weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

18 Mar 2013 8:57pm
i have noticed some people getting slammed by reds in here,
i was thinking it was because of Sh!t stirring in other threads,like the other day someone was hounding mac and poor Pup had a flea problem .i told you Pup hang with DOGGIES you will get fleas but with that info from Laurie obviously some have issues
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