Thoughts on both and why please

From a short boarder perspective as a general rule (and we know that rules are made to be broken aka KS) its pins for bigger waves - less surface area = less tail lift = digs in more on the rail = can handle more speed but consequently less manoeuvrable. Squares have much more surface area = speed and lift = more speed in fat spots = good for smaller waves.

Why you ask? Thinking of a change?

^^^ and pins tend to be smoother and draw your turns out.
A square tail IMO seem to be the opposite, the turning arc will be shorter etc.

Edit.

www.surfscience.com/topics/surfboard-anatomy/tail/basic-tail-shapes

Go a Swallow Tail Bluebird!
Or a Pintail Tracker!

Ted its been slow here today so I decided to whack up a new topic

oh I agree with SP,I'm having a square made atm and Simondo give
yourself an uppercut or head over to the mini mal forum or
was that just a fad


Sick Tint

Now that's a polish Love it

^ everyone loves a polish

you can't just nail down square and pin like mentioned above. i've seen board bumps loose as on a area pin 666 and my nano will draw out the longest arcs you could ever do, but still smack out a tight arc too

Love the square on my hp,just turns way better.

But now that rounded pins and quads are great friends,I find that combo my favourite

I like all Tail except the swallow. Which is strange But I just hate fixing them all the time. I now have zero in my quiver which is a big relief - but I had to fix a friends at the weeknd - there is just no escaping them!!!

Exactly why I don't understand the concept of putting a pin tail on a groveller shortboard. Think hypto krypto or firewire double agent. Doesn't make sense. You want a groveller to be as loose as possible.

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Ted the Kiwi said...
I like all Tail except the swallow. Which is strange But I just hate fixing them all the time. I now have zero in my quiver which is a big relief - but I had to fix a friends at the weeknd - there is just no escaping them!!!

Swallows are great Ted. I had a Greg webber swallow that was just awesome. Fixing the tail can be a pain I agree.

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laceys lane said..
you can't just nail down square and pin like mentioned above. i've seen board bumps loose as on a area pin 666 and my nano will draw out the longest arcs you could ever do, but still smack out a tight arc too

yes indeed - the tail shape needs to be incorporated with other aspects of the boards overall design for a complete picture. Go the Nano

Captain - I have had lots of boards with swallows that I love - its just I am over fixing them all the time - no matter how careful I am with them I still manage to knock the end off them repeatedly. Very frustrating

I say get a nano ted. What are you waiting for

+1 on the nano.
You'll thank us for it!

yes I will. Its just that when I needed it i had to wait for 6 weeks so the Potatontor subbed in - its been such a good board I am reluctant to part with her. Considering both will cover similar wave ranges I am finding it hard to justify dropping $800 odd on another one. Especially when I can make at least 3 boards for that much.

But my time will come I promise. LL will be trading his one soon for a smaller one and I will buy it off him. Pretty simple equation really. Hoping to come up your way in Sept LL - so that should give you enough time to get your new smaller one

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Ted the Kiwi said..
yes I will. Its just that when I needed it i had to wait for 6 weeks so the Potatontor subbed in - its been such a good board I am reluctant to part with her. Considering both will cover similar wave ranges I am finding it hard to justify dropping $800 odd on another one. Especially when I can make at least 3 boards for that much.

But my time will come I promise. LL will be trading his one soon for a smaller one and I will buy it off him. Pretty simple equation really. Hoping to come up your way in Sept LL - so that should give you enough time to get your new smaller one

A locked jawed bull terrier would be no match for you ted. I'll give you that much


Hell I'm thinking of getting the 6'4 too so I can be a real pig

Lacey I've reconnected with my old accountant,not only is he the best he also surfs,he was telling me over a few beers on a trip one of the boys asked if he had been surfing much,he replied every day for the past week and commented imagine surfing every day for a year. Well he told me he has 37 days to complete this mission.His rule is at least 3 waves and can be on a prone or 666,he also owns a Nano which he just picked up last week.

He happened to be there on youR big day last year and was blown away by the guys that were with you,he asked how you were I replied fitter than ever

wow, thats a cool story

consdiering ur new board is a small square tail, i would stick with that did i just drop a bombshell ?

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BigSpazz said..
consdiering ur new board is a small square tail, i would stick with that did i just drop a bombshell ?

Bigspazz are you taking to me mate?If so,its been 11 weeks that board issue one was the blank took 6 weeks issue two mad art was put to the end of a very long list.BS where is it at

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Macaha said..

BigSpazz said..
consdiering ur new board is a small square tail, i would stick with that did i just drop a bombshell ?

Bigspazz are you taking to me mate?If so,its been 11 weeks that board issue one was the blank took 6 weeks issue two mad art was put to the end of a very long list.BS where is it at

sitting in a rack all shaped, looks good like the stringer setup. ill let ya know if it moves from the rack onto a glassing stand. Ur going a tint this time it seems? good stuff

New square tail in the making.

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Macaha said...
New square tail in the making.

Looks sweet. I prefer a tiny square in my hp over pins.....yet the new midlength pin I'm waxing is looking so very sexy

So what model is it mac?

Well it started as a replacement for the Splice which was EvoII outine with the 07 rocker,now its the (new) fireball square tail pulled in nose and small square tail with the 07 rocker.Same dims as the Splice.

Go tigers..

Sweet colours and nice looking board.....

Yep like that orange

Farkin orange..
Wash your mouth out.....

That's Balmain farking gold my color blind friend

I'm calling for a 4 keg beer fine.

funny boys,oh the tail will be Balmain gold like the front.

Well it looks farken orange from here Scotty mate I am in the process of a live beer fine right now and it's going down just farking beeeeeeewdifully

Well its good to.see them catch up.with the modern times mac
The splice with that tail would be way fun imo....which is worth about five cents