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SP said...


Hey GPA,

You said you cracked the rail in another thread, i know you said it is epoxy, is it the X2 full sandwich or is it one of the other epoxy glassed ones, if so is it the slx or slxc or the PE version.

Someone maybe able to tell us the difference in strength etc, if only there was an expert......

Did you look at the fibre flex? I like the sound of these.

The different construction methods are below.

www.surfindustries.com/technology/surfboard-technology.php?src=01

G'day SP - it's the new X2 version. I did look at the FF, but to be honest I was not happy with the look of it... just a dull pro-finish and the carbon rails just looked unfinished (to me). And I was concerned about dinging... Plus it was a few $$ more... $965 from memory...

After surfing my old Poly 7S today I am not sure that I will be keeping the Epoxy... I'll give it a couple more goes, but I made a lot more moves today on the Poly in one surf than I have made in the last few surfs on the Epoxy - I'm hoping it's just a familiarity/adjustment thing... despite a very similar template, the fin set up is different and they are completely different to surf...

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GPA said...

SP said...


Hey GPA,

You said you cracked the rail in another thread, i know you said it is epoxy, is it the X2 full sandwich or is it one of the other epoxy glassed ones, if so is it the slx or slxc or the PE version.

Someone maybe able to tell us the difference in strength etc, if only there was an expert......

Did you look at the fibre flex? I like the sound of these.

The different construction methods are below.

www.surfindustries.com/technology/surfboard-technology.php?src=01

G'day SP - it's the new X2 version. I did look at the FF, but to be honest I was not happy with the look of it... just a dull pro-finish and the carbon rails just looked unfinished (to me). And I was concerned about dinging... Plus it was a few $$ more... $965 from memory...

After surfing my old Poly 7S today I am not sure that I will be keeping the Epoxy... I'll give it a couple more goes, but I made a lot more moves today on the Poly in one surf than I have made in the last few surfs on the Epoxy - I'm hoping it's just a familiarity/adjustment thing... despite a very similar template, the fin set up is different and they are completely different to surf...

Fins or no spring?

come on kadi' you know you just want that UFO

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62mac said...

come on kadi' you know you just want that UFO

Half my next board budget just went to my dentist. Maybe he can afford it now?

BTW I have secured you a hired fish for this Sunday at noosa. You can enjoy you the experience and no one needs to know. So far only you , me and the people on the internet know.

@ kadilak : I ended up putting the stock M7/M5's back in and it is MUCH better, but I'm still not in love with it.

Whilst the paddle in is fantastic, to me the board is sitting too high in the water, and does not feel 'locked' into the wave... it still feels very skittish and almost feels like it's turning from the mid section rather than the tail... I describe it a bit like a wet bar of soap skating across a tiled floor - it kind of wants to do it's own thing.

I'll give it another couple of goes once I get it back from repairs.

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GPA said...

@ kadilak : I ended up putting the stock M7/M5's back in and it is MUCH better, but I'm still not in love with it.

Whilst the paddle in is fantastic, to me the board is sitting too high in the water, and does not feel 'locked' into the wave... it still feels very skittish and almost feels like it's turning from the mid section rather than the tail... I describe it a bit like a wet bar of soap skating across a tiled floor - it kind of wants to do it's own thing.

I'll give it another couple of goes once I get it back from repairs.

Try it as a thruster, I recon that will fix it mate.

Have not seen this guy around for a while now but geez this older guy rips,full on HP power house.

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@ kadilak : I ended up putting the stock M7/M5's back in and it is MUCH better, but I'm still not in love with it.

Whilst the paddle in is fantastic, to me the board is sitting too high in the water, and does not feel 'locked' into the wave... it still feels very skittish and almost feels like it's turning from the mid section rather than the tail... I describe it a bit like a wet bar of soap skating across a tiled floor - it kind of wants to do it's own thing.

I can believe you would feel like you are surfing above the wave rather than locked in. I am still on baby waves mostly going straight line, but even I can tell, when you get any speed up it sits up on top of the water pretty quick, which is fine for a kook like me I guess.

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SP said...


Hey GPA,

You said you cracked the rail in another thread, i know you said it is epoxy, is it the X2 full sandwich or is it one of the other epoxy glassed ones, if so is it the slx or slxc or the PE version.

Someone maybe able to tell us the difference in strength etc, if only there was an expert......

Did you look at the fibre flex? I like the sound of these.

The different construction methods are below.

www.surfindustries.com/technology/surfboard-technology.php?src=01

G'day SP - it's the new X2 version. I did look at the FF, but to be honest I was not happy with the look of it... just a dull pro-finish and the carbon rails just looked unfinished (to me). And I was concerned about dinging... Plus it was a few $$ more... $965 from memory...

After surfing my old Poly 7S today I am not sure that I will be keeping the Epoxy... I'll give it a couple more goes, but I made a lot more moves today on the Poly in one surf than I have made in the last few surfs on the Epoxy - I'm hoping it's just a familiarity/adjustment thing... despite a very similar template, the fin set up is different and they are completely different to surf...

Thanks, yeah I've heard that the epoxies feel a bit different as you said a lot more buoyant and tend to sit on top rather than in the water.

Kadi you have more stoke than most of us,its guys like you that keep me going.Its all about the stroke and poke

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Have not seen this guy around for a while now but geez this older guy rips,full on HP power house.

Nice boards he's got there Mac.

The last time I saw Mick out at snapper it was big and he was on a 8 foot carver and ripped the bags out of it and he is a real charger,but that was a few years ago.I've often wondered where he has been.

Oh he likes red boards,always on one.

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62mac said...

Kadi you have more stoke than most of us,its guys like you that keep me going.Its all about the stroke and poke

Geez thanx Mac, I'm all embarrassed now

I think I am figuring this stuff all out now. Test these thoughts:

(1) Can a fat, old noob pick up a big epoxy fish and learn the basics of surfing and have a ball -> yes

(2) Can an experienced poly surfer grab an epoxy board and expect it to pull out all the old tricks and behave exactly like a poly -> no

(3) Is some smart ass kid going to come along someday soon and show off some new signature moves on a board that works completely different to the old poly boards-> in time it is inevitable Then there will be another forum on the breeze and many people will be trying to mimic and improve.

Only the people trying point (2) are going to not be stoked

I like the quad set ups. If I ever order another 8 footer I'd get five plugs.

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smh said...

I like the quad set ups. If I ever order another 8 footer I'd get five plugs.

yep

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62mac said...

The last time I saw Mick out at snapper it was big and he was on a 8 foot carver and ripped the bags out of it and he is a real charger,but that was a few years ago.I've often wondered where he has been.

Oh he likes red boards,always on one.

Carvers rule mac, you should know that by now

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asea said...

Crazy looks good mate what are the dimensions

9'6" x 23 1/2" x 3 1/2 nose is 20" - I think

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GPA said...

@ kadilak : I ended up putting the stock M7/M5's back in and it is MUCH better, but I'm still not in love with it.

Whilst the paddle in is fantastic, to me the board is sitting too high in the water, and does not feel 'locked' into the wave... it still feels very skittish and almost feels like it's turning from the mid section rather than the tail... I describe it a bit like a wet bar of soap skating across a tiled floor - it kind of wants to do it's own thing.

I'll give it another couple of goes once I get it back from repairs.

Is the jury still out GPA? Or is the fibreglass a better board to ride?

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62mac said...

The last time I saw Mick out at snapper it was big and he was on a 8 foot carver and ripped the bags out of it and he is a real charger,but that was a few years ago.I've often wondered where he has been.

Oh he likes red boards,always on one.

I see Papa Willsy around quite often, he must live near me somewhere as I see him at foodworks. Never seen him in the surf in the epic T'Land epicness.

@ Kadli' its time to part with my UFO still keen

@ CMC,lives tweed last time I heard.

^^^^
Oh yes and what are we getting mate

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BulldogPup said...

^^^^
Oh yes and what are we getting mate

not sure but that splice has been the go to board and loving it,so something in between both,I'll have to have a chat to DE.

I can see Volan I don't know the colour yet I can feel Dave coming up with another 62 speciale' I can see VOLAN

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BulldogPup said...

I can see Volan I don't know the colour yet I can feel Dave coming up with another 62 speciale' I can see VOLAN

Nope it will be HP,no tint but something with even more get up and go,whatever that will bringsame plan shape I'm thinking.

How big's the UFO Mac? and which one is it in your pics?

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cRAZY Canuk said...

How big's the UFO Mac? and which one is it in your pics?

903 x 23 x 3 and its the red/black rail number.10 out of 10 condition love it but I find myself on the hunt once again.

http://www.mctavish.com.au/_blog/McTavish/post/Magic_Quiver/

Hey mac - I could get you a deal on an NSP mate - you've been pretending for long enough - time to step up

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billboard said...

Hey mac - I could get you a deal on an NSP mate - you've been pretending for long enough - time to step up

haha mate,loven your work all round champ

mmm pm me mac

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GPA said...

@ kadilak : I ended up putting the stock M7/M5's back in and it is MUCH better, but I'm still not in love with it.

Whilst the paddle in is fantastic, to me the board is sitting too high in the water, and does not feel 'locked' into the wave... it still feels very skittish and almost feels like it's turning from the mid section rather than the tail... I describe it a bit like a wet bar of soap skating across a tiled floor - it kind of wants to do it's own thing.

I'll give it another couple of goes once I get it back from repairs.

Is the jury still out GPA? Or is the fibreglass a better board to ride?

Well I've only surfed it once since I last posted - and it was small (chest to occasional shoulder), but very clean and nice shape, got a few good moves in - so it was by far my best surf on the new Epoxy - but the conditions were a little timid to be really sure.

I need some fast head high waves to push it a bit... that's when things seem to come unstuck...

Stay tuned.