Andy you said JC sold out? What do to mean?

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Macaha said..
Andy you said JC sold out? What do to mean?

shop.surfindustries.com/au/brands/creative-army/

sold out?? Maybe having a mortgage an a Family to support an living in one a Australia most expensive regions its called earning a living Kudos to Josh

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mike3217 said..
sold out?? Maybe having a mortgage an a Family to support an living in one a Australia most expensive regions its called earning a living Kudos to Josh

Sure, its his business and he can do what he wants...

But for me, GSI are the definition of what is destroying the local surf industry, lots of other ways of growing a business... Maybe look at the MCT, Almond, CW, Christenson models and see what they are doing...

I just disagree with cheapening your product to mass produce. I had a look at one of the GSI Creative Army Boards and they are cheap rubbish, basically a 7s with a CA logo on it... His Customs were glassed by Takama and are unreal and now he's devalued those. I would think a better option would be to create a new brand name for the cheapo crap and then maintain your main brand...

Its also worth noting that MCT went into the GSI thing a few years back and then got out a few years later... Bob came out a year or so back and owned the mistake, wished he hadn't gone down that road...

Those big brands will chew up the little guys and spew em out...

totally agree he should created a different brand for the production models. But don't think it effects local surf industry to much. I compere board shaping to the wine industry cheap clean skins haven't impacted good locally produced wine. There will always be a place for custom shaped boards but its now a cottage industry. Surfers will always pay a premium for a quality custom. I have 8 long boards from locally shaped logs to surf techs they all have a place.Recently acquired a creative army JIVE model granted it was cheap but surprise surprise its was great smooth as.A bit like the wine industry blind tasting Aldi 8 dollar wine blew away more expensive wines If only we could blind test a board with no preconceptions we might all be a bit surprised

Wow, haven't checked back on this 'till now. Good points bought up all over. I had read a little on the interwebs about the build quality of the MLC and it seems to be a mixed bag of the quality really. I thought about maybe going to a local bloke and discussing doing a similar shape as the 3" thickness on the 7 footer seems a bit much and having a decent glass job would be nice. The little extra weight wouldn't worry me.
Does anyone have any recommendations for some one on the Goldy that would be good for the task?

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bobajob said..
Wow, haven't checked back on this 'till now. Good points bought up all over. I had read a little on the interwebs about the build quality of the MLC and it seems to be a mixed bag of the quality really. I thought about maybe going to a local bloke and discussing doing a similar shape as the 3" thickness on the 7 footer seems a bit much and having a decent glass job would be nice. The little extra weight wouldn't worry me.
Does anyone have any recommendations for some one on the Goldy that would be good for the task?

Steve Del Rosso at Clearwater Surf would be my bet. He's an awesome shaper, really good at listening to you about how you want to surf and what sort of waves your surfing. His boards are seriously under-priced and really good glass jobs. My Hotlog is 5years old and still mint (besides the collision damage I have done). definitely go have a chat to him or call him... But there are a ton of good shapers on the GC.

Check this one...

www.instagram.com/p/BVTXAqBF6e3/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1bymxxh5rxwp

And I reckon he'll be cheaper or similar, $700+ for a china pop out, really

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AndyrooMac said..

bobajob said..
Wow, haven't checked back on this 'till now. Good points bought up all over. I had read a little on the interwebs about the build quality of the MLC and it seems to be a mixed bag of the quality really. I thought about maybe going to a local bloke and discussing doing a similar shape as the 3" thickness on the 7 footer seems a bit much and having a decent glass job would be nice. The little extra weight wouldn't worry me.
Does anyone have any recommendations for some one on the Goldy that would be good for the task?

Steve Del Rosso at Clearwater Surf would be my bet. He's an awesome shaper, really good at listening to you about how you want to surf and what sort of waves your surfing. His boards are seriously under-priced and really good glass jobs. My Hotlog is 5years old and still mint (besides the collision damage I have done). definitely go have a chat to him or call him... But there are a ton of good shapers on the GC.

Check this one...

www.instagram.com/p/BVTXAqBF6e3/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1bymxxh5rxwp

That's a beautiful thing!

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bobajob said..

AndyrooMac said..

bobajob said..
Wow, haven't checked back on this 'till now. Good points bought up all over. I had read a little on the interwebs about the build quality of the MLC and it seems to be a mixed bag of the quality really. I thought about maybe going to a local bloke and discussing doing a similar shape as the 3" thickness on the 7 footer seems a bit much and having a decent glass job would be nice. The little extra weight wouldn't worry me.
Does anyone have any recommendations for some one on the Goldy that would be good for the task?

Steve Del Rosso at Clearwater Surf would be my bet. He's an awesome shaper, really good at listening to you about how you want to surf and what sort of waves your surfing. His boards are seriously under-priced and really good glass jobs. My Hotlog is 5years old and still mint (besides the collision damage I have done). definitely go have a chat to him or call him... But there are a ton of good shapers on the GC.

Check this one...

www.instagram.com/p/BVTXAqBF6e3/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1bymxxh5rxwp

That's a beautiful thing!

100% Clearwater for the win. A completely unbiased recommendation

Corey Munn or Jack Knight...... or a NPJ midlength duo ??????

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onefin said..
Corey Munn or Jack Knight...... or a NPJ midlength duo ??????

Have you ridden those boards ? Intrested in your thoughts about the duo

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chrispy said..

bobajob said..

AndyrooMac said..

bobajob said..
Wow, haven't checked back on this 'till now. Good points bought up all over. I had read a little on the interwebs about the build quality of the MLC and it seems to be a mixed bag of the quality really. I thought about maybe going to a local bloke and discussing doing a similar shape as the 3" thickness on the 7 footer seems a bit much and having a decent glass job would be nice. The little extra weight wouldn't worry me.
Does anyone have any recommendations for some one on the Goldy that would be good for the task?

Steve Del Rosso at Clearwater Surf would be my bet. He's an awesome shaper, really good at listening to you about how you want to surf and what sort of waves your surfing. His boards are seriously under-priced and really good glass jobs. My Hotlog is 5years old and still mint (besides the collision damage I have done). definitely go have a chat to him or call him... But there are a ton of good shapers on the GC.

Check this one...

www.instagram.com/p/BVTXAqBF6e3/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1bymxxh5rxwp

That's a beautiful thing!

100% Clearwater for the win. A completely unbiased recommendation

Are you still their number 1 social media Influencer

Plenty of options in Byron too if you wanted to travel a bit south.

CW egg, looks real nice... www.instagram.com/p/Bnj5vVyH86f/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1wjr9uiz403gh

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onefin said..
Corey Munn or Jack Knight...... or a NPJ midlength duo ??????

Have you ridden those boards ? Intrested in your thoughts about the duo

No chrispy unfortunately not the duo, had heaps of boards from Jack though. I have eye balled a few corey Munn boards & they look beautiful, he has shaped with Ryan Lovelace.

the duo looks to be a good wave board but NPJ is a great shaper who can tweak it.

hopefully someone on here will be inspired, get one & report back!

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chrispy said..

bobajob said..

AndyrooMac said..

bobajob said..
Wow, haven't checked back on this 'till now. Good points bought up all over. I had read a little on the interwebs about the build quality of the MLC and it seems to be a mixed bag of the quality really. I thought about maybe going to a local bloke and discussing doing a similar shape as the 3" thickness on the 7 footer seems a bit much and having a decent glass job would be nice. The little extra weight wouldn't worry me.
Does anyone have any recommendations for some one on the Goldy that would be good for the task?

Steve Del Rosso at Clearwater Surf would be my bet. He's an awesome shaper, really good at listening to you about how you want to surf and what sort of waves your surfing. His boards are seriously under-priced and really good glass jobs. My Hotlog is 5years old and still mint (besides the collision damage I have done). definitely go have a chat to him or call him... But there are a ton of good shapers on the GC.

Check this one...

www.instagram.com/p/BVTXAqBF6e3/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1bymxxh5rxwp

That's a beautiful thing!

100% Clearwater for the win. A completely unbiased recommendation

Went to see Steve last week and he seems like a nice bloke. Listened to what I was after and he put in a couple recommendations so I told him to "shut up and take my money." So my order is in. Turns out cheaper than the MLC and and should no gamble on the quality.
Will post a Pic in a couple of weeks when finished.
Thanks for the heads up on this!

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bobajob said..

chrispy said..

bobajob said..

AndyrooMac said..

bobajob said..
Wow, haven't checked back on this 'till now. Good points bought up all over. I had read a little on the interwebs about the build quality of the MLC and it seems to be a mixed bag of the quality really. I thought about maybe going to a local bloke and discussing doing a similar shape as the 3" thickness on the 7 footer seems a bit much and having a decent glass job would be nice. The little extra weight wouldn't worry me.
Does anyone have any recommendations for some one on the Goldy that would be good for the task?

Steve Del Rosso at Clearwater Surf would be my bet. He's an awesome shaper, really good at listening to you about how you want to surf and what sort of waves your surfing. His boards are seriously under-priced and really good glass jobs. My Hotlog is 5years old and still mint (besides the collision damage I have done). definitely go have a chat to him or call him... But there are a ton of good shapers on the GC.

Check this one...

www.instagram.com/p/BVTXAqBF6e3/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1bymxxh5rxwp

That's a beautiful thing!

100% Clearwater for the win. A completely unbiased recommendation

Went to see Steve last week and he seems like a nice bloke. Listened to what I was after and he put in a couple recommendations so I told him to "shut up and take my money." So my order is in. Turns out cheaper than the MLC and and should no gamble on the quality.
Will post a Pic in a couple of weeks when finished.
Thanks for the heads up on this!

Nice one, what's he shaping you?

I hear that beer bumps you up the queue

www.instagram.com/p/8O7jNRMrO2/?taken-by=theladyofmanycolours

Something like this.

Looks like a fun board are you getting those flyers on the tail? I think Chrispy liked that board from memory.

Reading these comments make me laugh, anyone stop to think that the flood of surfboard companies IN OZ making these hi quality works of art are cutting their own throats. Truly some of these guys think they are coffee shops ,pop them out and they will come. Then blame the China man up the road for making cheep coffee. I've purchased a pop out, why ? Because I went on a trip to Sumatra didn't want to pay a premium for something I wouldn't use much when I returned. Two No time to wait ,and didn't want to wait for it. Just drive around the Goldie or Byron and there's a coffee shop on every corner selling surfboards.
Anyhow now I need to smash myself in the face for commenting on another topic that gets rehashed every six months.

Oh Cobra look on the bright side. The best sh-t stirring goes on at these coffee shops post surf. I was once a super proud Australian manufacturer who got smashed by the Chinese oh I hate pop outs it's personal support Australian made or lose it love and peace Cobra got out of the wrong side of bed this morning

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Macaha said..
Oh Cobra look on the bright side. The best sh-t stirring goes on at these coffee shops post surf. I was once a super proud Australian manufacturer who got smashed by the Chinese oh I hate pop outs it's personal support Australian made or lose it love and peace Cobra got out of the wrong side of bed this morning

Hahaha nnooo Mac im fine its just my opinion. If it's not the Chinese it's someone else like the swedes with IKEA. I wee laugh when peeps start banging on how a mate got Chinese golf clubs, wake up 90% of clubheads are made in China assembled in Aus USA what ever, other countries gave up doing that filthy foundry work decades ago.
pop out kitchens pop out furniture what ever Peeps jumping up and down saying buy Australian then drive off in a euro car WTF happen to buy Australian made cars for them.
its a pop out world folks don't get all hypocritical on us.

i got out of the right side of my Australian made bed.
remember the golf club story boys,have you checked your bed

Lol, yes very true Cobra so are my Taylor Made made in China

I think this thread is actually the perfect example of why you "TRY" and buy local... In this case this dude will get a custom, he's supporting SDR who is a legend and a small local business rather than an OS sweatshop propping up some greedy corporation, he's actually getting it cheaper and I gaurentee it will be a vastly better board... pretty simple if you ask me.

Every time I make make a transaction I am aware that I am making a choice, I can use my money to support good things or I can be short sighted and be part of the problem...

seems like a no brainer to me

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AndyrooMac said..
I think this thread is actually the perfect example of why you "TRY" and buy local... In this case this dude will get a custom, he's supporting SDR who is a legend and a small local business rather than an OS sweatshop propping up some greedy corporation, he's actually getting it cheaper and I gaurentee it will be a vastly better board... pretty simple if you ask me.

Every time I make make a transaction I am aware that I am making a choice, I can use my money to support good things or I can be short sighted and be part of the problem...

seems like a no brainer to me

Thanks @AndyrooMac. I was gonna say some things, but you said it all diplomatic and stuff - Bewitful
Anyway, SDR is a west Aussie, so maybe his materials and labour costs are in WA dollars and his sales are in Aussie dollars and that's how he makes his meager living in this pop out world.

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bobajob said..

AndyrooMac said..
I think this thread is actually the perfect example of why you "TRY" and buy local... In this case this dude will get a custom, he's supporting SDR who is a legend and a small local business rather than an OS sweatshop propping up some greedy corporation, he's actually getting it cheaper and I gaurentee it will be a vastly better board... pretty simple if you ask me.

Every time I make make a transaction I am aware that I am making a choice, I can use my money to support good things or I can be short sighted and be part of the problem...

seems like a no brainer to me

Thanks @AndyrooMac. I was gonna say some things, but you said it all diplomatic and stuff - Bewitful
Anyway, SDR is a west Aussie, so maybe his materials and labour costs are in WA dollars and his sales are in Aussie dollars and that's how he makes his meager living in this pop out world.

Quality, custom made to the riders choice and a smile for miles priceless in my book.

Ask your popout guy for some extra meat here and there and ask for a change up in art lol.NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

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bobajob said..

AndyrooMac said..
I think this thread is actually the perfect example of why you "TRY" and buy local... In this case this dude will get a custom, he's supporting SDR who is a legend and a small local business rather than an OS sweatshop propping up some greedy corporation, he's actually getting it cheaper and I gaurentee it will be a vastly better board... pretty simple if you ask me.

Every time I make make a transaction I am aware that I am making a choice, I can use my money to support good things or I can be short sighted and be part of the problem...

seems like a no brainer to me

Thanks @AndyrooMac. I was gonna say some things, but you said it all diplomatic and stuff - Bewitful
Anyway, SDR is a west Aussie, so maybe his materials and labour costs are in WA dollars and his sales are in Aussie dollars and that's how he makes his meager living in this pop out world.

He's definitely WAAAAAY too cheap but whatever makes him happy (and us) I guess...

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Macaha said..
Lol, yes very true Cobra so are my Taylor Made made in China

The heads are

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Cobra said..

Macaha said..
Lol, yes very true Cobra so are my Taylor Made made in China

The heads are

Thats the problem with them going right all the time then