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Corey Norman - whats fair?

Created by Ted the Kiwi Ted the Kiwi  > 9 months ago, 13 Jul 2016
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Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

13 Jul 2016 12:24pm
He has been convicted of possessing a prohibited drug and possessing a prescribed restricted substance this morning. I seem to recall that Pearce was convicted of nothing but thrown to the wolves. Is this worse than Carney weeing all over himself?

What do you think is fair punishment and what do you think he will get?

One would imagine if he had been caught by an agency with those drugs in his system he would have got a solid two years. But he hasn't been caught taking them - only having them on him (most probably to consume). The way I see it the range of possibilities stretches from a banning from zero to 24 months. I think they should go hard on him and send a very clear message. Whilst I would not mind seeing him get 2 years (for stupidity) I reckon a good 6-12 months would be at least appropriate. I hope the NRL go hard for a change.



Tux
Tux

Tux

VIC

3829 posts

13 Jul 2016 1:36pm
Non performance enhancing...yes hes an idiot but unless hes cheating who really cares what people do in there spare time?
surfbroker
surfbroker

NSW

1489 posts

13 Jul 2016 1:51pm
I still can't get the Stupidity of these jerks..

1..Has the stuff on him to begin with

2..Some other 1st grader is there flaked out

3..And another imbecile is videoing the whole episode

Money can't buy 'em brains that's for sure.

I reckon the NRL will give him a token suspension..2-4 weeks.
SP
SP

SP

10982 posts

13 Jul 2016 11:51am
Drag his personal life through the paper??


I agree it is a dopey thing to do and getting caught is silly but putting my devils advocate hat on...

Fairness doesn't come into it.

No one has been fair to Corey, having his life dragged through the paper. I'd imagine that isn't very nice for him or his family.

No one was fair to SKD when he was on domestic violence charges. Presumption of Innocence??

So **** fair, it just all about the papers beating **** up to sell papers.


Legally it is nothing.
Hasn't tested positive so it is just possession??

How is that not fitting into the 3 strike drug policy they have??

The NRL's testing policy for illicit and hazardous substances was established by the integrity unit in 2014.

Tests are carried out completely in private and by an independent third party and are analysed for such illicit substances as amphetamines, ketamine, cannabis, cocaine and opiates.

It also tests for prescription drugs.

Players cop a suspended fine and must undergo a treatment program after their first breach of the policy, while a second breach can lead to a 12-match ban or contract termination.
leashless
leashless

158 posts

13 Jul 2016 11:52am
He is a dead****. I would imagine he won't be suspended for all that long though (the remaining season maybe). The NRL have historically taken differing stances against this behavior so it is a bit hit and miss in relation to suspensions.

If asada caught him with the substances in his system and as the NRL 'in competition' testing period is basically the whole year (as long as the game season including preseason games) then he would be taking a minimum 2 year vacation from all professional sport (whether the substance is performance enhancing or not - recreational drugs, masking agents can be considered non performance enhancing yet are still on the banned list, and for good reason). However as it is at this stage, only possession, then the grounds fall away from asada and onto the NRL integrity unit and the police.

I don't see him getting much more than a slap on the wrist - rest of the season ban would be likely.
bazz61
bazz61

QLD

3570 posts

13 Jul 2016 2:04pm
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Tux said..
Non performance enhancing...yes hes an idiot but unless hes cheating who really cares what people do in there spare time?


Agree..!
wavemaniac
wavemaniac

469 posts

13 Jul 2016 1:02pm
Tear up his contract and punish him severely....make him play for the Roosters!

Should fit in well with those losers!??
E T
E T

E T

QLD

2286 posts

13 Jul 2016 4:24pm
Sorry lads, but who is Corey Norman?

ET.
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

13 Jul 2016 5:42pm

I think you fellas missed what I was talking about - not the video stuff but the fact that he was convicted in court today for drug possession. The video stuff is minor in comparison

Surely he should be sacked and de registered for a while
Al G
Al G

NSW

7704 posts

13 Jul 2016 6:41pm
What about Manly's "match fixing",do we sack and deregister them for a while to
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

13 Jul 2016 6:43pm
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Ted the Kiwi said..

I think you fellas missed what I was talking about - not the video stuff but the fact that he was convicted in court today for drug possession. The video stuff is minor in comparison

Surely he should be sacked and de registered for a while


The key word here is CONVICTION he must be stood down and from history 2 year ban.
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

13 Jul 2016 6:57pm
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Al G said..
What about Manly's "match fixing",do we sack and deregister them for a while to


If they are convicted of match fixing I would be throwing them out of the game FOREVER
Al G
Al G

NSW

7704 posts

13 Jul 2016 7:01pm
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Ted the Kiwi said..


Al G said..
What about Manly's "match fixing",do we sack and deregister them for a while to




If they are convicted of match fixing I would be throwing them out of the game FOREVER



I just can't believe that all these players and clubs repeatedly keep getting slaps on the wrist for the things they do, Ted.
It's wrong,I love the game. I said to a mate 16 years ago that Footballers get to much money,now look what's happening!....
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

13 Jul 2016 7:13pm
Yeah its amazing - but its always easy to blame the players - which most deserve - but lets not forget about the clubs - almost all of them have been busted for breaking the salary cap in recent years. Incredible how many poor accountants are out there in the NRL. The game is dirty from the top to the bottom. A sad state of affairs.
Al G
Al G

NSW

7704 posts

13 Jul 2016 7:19pm
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Ted the Kiwi said..
Yeah its amazing - but its always easy to blame the players - which most deserve - but lets not forget about the clubs - almost all of them have been busted for breaking the salary cap in recent years. Incredible how many poor accountants are out there in the NRL. The game is dirty from the top to the bottom. A sad state of affairs.




I agree mate and it needs a bloody big broom through it!...
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

13 Jul 2016 6:50pm
Bloody waste of talent - geez he was good last week virtually won it himself .... shame really
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

13 Jul 2016 8:53pm
These blokes are mostly uneducated get paid good money and have no idea how to invest into the future.

Other issue too much time on their hands
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

13 Jul 2016 8:57pm
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thePup said..
Bloody waste of good ball and field position - geez these Blues have virtually no idea .... no shame


Well said
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

13 Jul 2016 6:58pm


Ted
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

13 Jul 2016 9:02pm
Corey has now been stood down for one game - wow - thats really showing some leadership Parra. Joke. Hope that is the calm before the storm. Throw him to the wolves - but because he is a good player = diff rules. NRL surely will step in and smack it / him out of the park.
Cobra
Cobra

9106 posts

14 Jul 2016 4:23pm
yes Ted i like the way souths are ****ing these idiots off.

haha i remember CN coming to my place before under 20s training, i asked him why he was driving without a license.
he said i need to get to training some way… WTF. so does this news surprise me NO.
i could name a long list of rule breakers, but i will just wait till they fark up.
the writing is on the wall for some.
E T
E T

E T

QLD

2286 posts

15 Jul 2016 7:10am
Like I said who is Corey Norman?

Farkwits.

ET.
surfbroker
surfbroker

NSW

1489 posts

15 Jul 2016 4:26pm
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Macaha said..
These blokes are mostly uneducated get paid good money and have no idea how to invest into the future.

Other issue too much time on their hands


You've nailed it Mac..
chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

15 Jul 2016 2:47pm
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surfbroker said..

Macaha said..
These blokes are mostly uneducated get paid good money and have no idea how to invest into the future.

Other issue too much time on their hands



You've nailed it Mac..


yep

plus these blokes are being protected and not paying for their stupid decisions/actions from when they first get signed at school....and this was rife when i played 25 years ago...it is just on a far bigger scale now as so much money is involved,and that is schools receiving the coin as well
Razzonater
Razzonater

2224 posts

15 Jul 2016 8:06pm
I reckon we just pump the whole lot of them up on steroids amphetamines a bit of lsd let them run onto the field..... Start the game and release a lion onto the field every 15 minutes, dig in a snake pit with cobras at the halfway line...
Pay per view 50 bucks get ya popcorn in the microwave and put ya feet up, I want entertainment
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

15 Jul 2016 10:09pm
Rumour Norman offered 800k from St George .
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

21 Jul 2016 5:19pm
Got off lightly relative to others. MP should be annoyed at this - I would be if I was him

Parramatta NRL star Corey Norman has been suspended for the rest of the season and fined $20,000 following his drug possession conviction and a sex tape scandal.
Norman, 25, was officially stood down for eight rounds, effectively ending his NRL season and fined over a series of scandals and bad behaviour in 2016.
The NRL said he was handed the punishment for his conviction for drug possession (MDMA), being warned by police about consorting with known criminals and his sex tape which was offered to the media.
bazz61
bazz61

QLD

3570 posts

21 Jul 2016 6:40pm
Hows charlies Gubb out for 7 weeks for a shoulder charge that hurt no one FFS..!
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

21 Jul 2016 6:48pm
Well Bazz - its really rather simple. The shoulder charge is against the rules of the game - whilst most other issues seem to be fine

I loved their statement

NRL Head of Integrity, Nick Weeks said the penalty relates to the following matters involving Norman:
• His conviction for drug possession at The Star casino
• A police warning for consorting with known criminals at the casino
• Filming incidents involving apparent drug use and sexual activity
• Distributing video of those incidents to other NRL players


So if you add all of that up and try and compare it to the Gudd case or the Mitchell Pearce incident it sure leaves me baffled. I really think they need to put together a solid independent panel for dealing with these issues - take it outside the club and the NRL. Sounds good I know but then it would be just like the bunker with another group of people to complain at. I think its fair to say that the NRL players are really probably past the point of help and we should just be thankful they only do stuff like this and not anything more damaging

If you compare the Norman incident to how the Swans dealt with their fella this week - its poles apart. I love the no dickhead policy. I have never been a fan of the Sharks (still not of that grub Gallen) but how good are they going since they admitted that they had a dickhead (Carney) in their team that needed to go - they have gone from strength to strength. Yes they were slow learners (getting rid of Bird etc) but at least they have seen some benefit since making some tough decisions.

Maybe Parra should do the same and complete the full cycle of cleaning up the crap.

chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

21 Jul 2016 5:37pm
you just needed to point out how the swans did it ted as that is how any professional side would do it....The AFL are still dragging their knuckles way behind the NRL when it comes to drugs and punishment.

corey should stay at parra...

consistency is the NRL no 1 problem in all aspects of the game

At the end of play nothing will ever happen. Once again it starts at the school program. you get a gun kid named Mac come to the school. Well Mac can do whatever the **** he wants just as long as he plays good footy....Then you get Lacey,well Lacey is pretty ****,yet still gets picked in the side as he is doing the job asked of him.
But lacey is then caught posting sexy pics of himself on mens forums...Lacey is not a gun and Lacey is gooooone.

Thats the ways its alway been,and always will be at all levels...hence the end cock head being Corey Norman
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