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12ft Longboard Glassing options?

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boofy
boofy

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26 Mar 2012 8:49am
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BigSpazz said...

arkgee said...

why so heavy spaz....I have a 12 foot tandem board...I glassed it with double six ounce top and bottom with an extra strip down the centre top and bottom and another strip along both rails....it's a great thing to ride and if its inertia that your after, it has plenty....glides like silk...and turns well...I think the 1" cedar and an eight and six top and bottom would be more than enough....too much weight may work against you in a board that big...I think...anyway I'm sure the boys at Mct's will steer you the right way.


yer thanks mate i think i might go with double 6 and possibly a 8oz deck patch....

Hey Mate
My mate has a 12 foot Robert August log it is heavily glassed, he is away at the moment but when he gets back I will find out what the glass job is dims etc and get a coupla pics, we have taken it to the pass a few times, it was great you can paddle into anything its great for long drawn out turns, ripple riding etc, I am 95 kgs 6,1 he is prob 60 kgs wringin wet 5,8
Cheers Boof

BigSpazz
BigSpazz

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26 Mar 2012 9:10am
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obct said...

Just because it's big, why must it be heavy

Your issue is early wave entry and to me, that means you need volume not weight, so every square inch of volume you have should be dedicated to floating you, not the board itself.

I recently borrowed a very heavily glassed board for a test, it was the Issac Fields model from Bennett's, it was so hard to pick up waves, I was reduced to catching whitewater and trying to ride out into the clean water, it was hopeless.

As I was getting out of the water to grab old faithful and go back in for a real surf, a buddy of mine was going in and he said something that will stick with me for a long time. He said he borrowed the same board and he also thought it was useless and he reckons that the reason it's called an Isaac Fields model is because he's the only one who can ride it.

That's when I realized that board weight may be a good thing for someone like Isaac who would be lucky to be 11 stone ring'n wet, but for a big bloke, it's just another burden to overcome.


yer you have a point another weight i have to push forward, i just borrowed a locals board one day at the pass the thing was 9'2 and had 3 layers of 8oz vol-an. the thing glided, my 9'6 fireball i sink literally but this thing was so buoyant just got me thinking that a heavy board, in the water would pick up a lot of momentum and be quite a glider
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

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26 Mar 2012 9:26am
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Kagey said...

I had a 12' Mickey Munoz a couple of years a go..great board wish I never sold it It was great for big paddle outs and caught waves with ease..I was looking at an 11' footer last year for the slow fat waves here, it didn't transpire but I do still think about getting a custom done...not as wide as those Munoz ones though!


just had a look at the munoz boards then, there huge HA
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

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26 Mar 2012 9:27am
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towball said...

Hi Spazz , we have a couple of guys over here with 12ft heavy glass jobs , both are getting pretty old I havn't riden them but have been offered suppose I should have , they are bloody heavey they carry them on there shoulders they say the drive is incredable .One was made by Steve Johnson (jinx)here in Gizzy . the other by Del surfboard in New Plymonth the owner of the jinx board has been riding a surf tech the same as mine latley don't know why if that tells you any thing
BigSpazz said...

Hi first post here so be gentle

so i am in the process of getting a custom Mctavish Noosa 66 board made, yes as the title states it is going to be 12ft yes 12.

i currently own a 9'1 - 9'6 - 10'4 and 11ft board so i am no stranger to big boards.

i want to make the glassing heavy real heavy but i have never felt a board anywhere near the specs im looking at

the heaviest glassing option available to me is

6oz + 2x 8 oz with a 8 or 6oz deck patch on the deck, 8oz and 6oz underneath

the board also will have a 1inch redwood cedar stringer.

now i am a big guy im 6'6 and 115kgs im not afraid of the board being heavy but im starting to wonder if this board will be stupidly heavy even for a strong guy like myself.

so i suppose my question is has anyone ever felt/owned a board with this type of glassing, any opinions appreciated thanks





good to know cheers
obct
obct

NSW

3487 posts

26 Mar 2012 10:42am
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BigSpazz said...

Kagey said...

I had a 12' Mickey Munoz a couple of years a go..great board wish I never sold it It was great for big paddle outs and caught waves with ease..I was looking at an 11' footer last year for the slow fat waves here, it didn't transpire but I do still think about getting a custom done...not as wide as those Munoz ones though!


just had a look at the munoz boards then, there huge HA


Yes, as someone mentioned they are hard to carry because they're 24.25 wide (well the 10.6 is. The bigger ones may be wider) plus the rails are vey thick. That means a bloke of my size, 6", needs to carry it wax in not wax out so I can get a good grip in the low rails.

At your height I think you could carry it normally.



BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

26 Mar 2012 10:46am
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obct said...

BigSpazz said...

Kagey said...

I had a 12' Mickey Munoz a couple of years a go..great board wish I never sold it It was great for big paddle outs and caught waves with ease..I was looking at an 11' footer last year for the slow fat waves here, it didn't transpire but I do still think about getting a custom done...not as wide as those Munoz ones though!


just had a look at the munoz boards then, there huge HA


Yes, as someone mentioned they are hard to carry because they're 24.25 wide (well the 10.6 is. The bigger ones may be wider) plus the rails are vey thick. That means a bloke of my size, 6", needs to carry it wax in not wax out so I can get a good grip in the low rails.

At your height I think you could carry it normally.






ha i borrowed a 15 yr old 12ft mctavish soft top from ben harper at MacT. The thing was 27inch wide could get my arm around it with ease haha
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

26 Mar 2012 10:56am
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boofy said...

BigSpazz said...

arkgee said...

why so heavy spaz....I have a 12 foot tandem board...I glassed it with double six ounce top and bottom with an extra strip down the centre top and bottom and another strip along both rails....it's a great thing to ride and if its inertia that your after, it has plenty....glides like silk...and turns well...I think the 1" cedar and an eight and six top and bottom would be more than enough....too much weight may work against you in a board that big...I think...anyway I'm sure the boys at Mct's will steer you the right way.


yer thanks mate i think i might go with double 6 and possibly a 8oz deck patch....

Hey Mate
My mate has a 12 foot Robert August log it is heavily glassed, he is away at the moment but when he gets back I will find out what the glass job is dims etc and get a coupla pics, we have taken it to the pass a few times, it was great you can paddle into anything its great for long drawn out turns, ripple riding etc, I am 95 kgs 6,1 he is prob 60 kgs wringin wet 5,8
Cheers Boof




that would be top thanks mate
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

26 Mar 2012 1:49pm
just got a call from MacT

looks like it will have to be a redline, unfortunetly a noosa 66 blown out to 12ft would ruin the template and not really be a noosa 66 anymore. still sticking with a 1inch stringer.

still keen to hear any opinions about heavily glassed board from anyone

will keep everyone updated through this post most likely
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

26 Mar 2012 10:51am
I like the heavy board for smaller days just catches waves easier
chrispychru
chrispychru

QLD

7932 posts

26 Mar 2012 1:05pm
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62mac said...

I like the heavy board for smaller days just catches waves easier



i agree, weightgets that sweet glide going. i would like to know what the flow weighs as that is only 9'6,yet weighs a ton or two now that board has some seriously heavy glass on it
towball
towball

4634 posts

26 Mar 2012 11:31am
12FT Munoz is 26 wide you get used to it have surfed it in over head at the point love it
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obct said...

BigSpazz said...

Kagey said...

I had a 12' Mickey Munoz a couple of years a go..great board wish I never sold it It was great for big paddle outs and caught waves with ease..I was looking at an 11' footer last year for the slow fat waves here, it didn't transpire but I do still think about getting a custom done...not as wide as those Munoz ones though!


just had a look at the munoz boards then, there huge HA


Yes, as someone mentioned they are hard to carry because they're 24.25 wide (well the 10.6 is. The bigger ones may be wider) plus the rails are vey thick. That means a bloke of my size, 6", needs to carry it wax in not wax out so I can get a good grip in the low rails.

At your height I think you could carry it normally.






SP
SP

SP

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26 Mar 2012 11:41am
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62mac said...

I like the heavy board for smaller days just catches waves easier



Yep, heavy is good on a small wave glider, my Takayama needs a forklift but glides into anything.
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smh

NSW

7269 posts

26 Mar 2012 2:43pm
The Redline at 12 foot sounds good. I reckon the pintail would be the go.
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

26 Mar 2012 2:47pm
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smh said...

The Redline at 12 foot sounds good. I reckon the pintail would be the go.


going to go square tail, my 11ft board has a really narrow pin tail photo doesn't do it justice, i want to try a nice wide square tail



chrispychru
chrispychru

QLD

7932 posts

26 Mar 2012 1:58pm
nice board mate
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

26 Mar 2012 3:02pm
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chrispychru said...

nice board mate


and the back side

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smh

NSW

7269 posts

26 Mar 2012 3:09pm
That 11 looks unreal Spazz. I'm not surfing at the moment due to back surgery but should be back into the water in the next few months. I've sold all my boards except my 10 footer but have been thinking about going even longer once I get back into it.
You would be getting your fair share out the Pass with boards that big.
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

26 Mar 2012 3:11pm
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smh said...

That 11 looks unreal Spazz. I'm not surfing at the moment due to back surgery but should be back into the water in the next few months. I've sold all my boards except my 10 footer but have been thinking about going even longer once I get back into it.
You would be getting your fair share out the Pass with boards that big.


ha yer its a unreal board i love it, it turns better than my 9'6 fireball. the tail is sooooo easy to turn with being so narrow its awesome i love it. if your ever around let me know more than welcome to try it
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smh

smh

NSW

7269 posts

26 Mar 2012 3:17pm
Yeah no worries. I've ridden a few 11 footers but nothing like that. Is that 11 around 24 1/2 wide ? I don't know if you have seen Sprout but there's some good footage of Skip Frye riding some big boards on it. Boards like that are so good for small long points and river mouths.
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

26 Mar 2012 3:21pm
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smh said...

Yeah no worries. I've ridden a few 11 footers but nothing like that. Is that 11 around 24 1/2 wide ? I don't know if you have seen Sprout but there's some good footage of Skip Frye riding some big boards on it. Boards like that are so good for small long points and river mouths.


yer true i will check it out, its 24 wide and 3 1/4 thick. Concave nose to double concave tail
Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

26 Mar 2012 9:14pm
I like it as a pin !! Sweet board... Would love to have a spin on that baby at Hells Bells!
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

26 Mar 2012 6:49pm
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Simondo said...

I like it as a pin !! Sweet board... Would love to have a spin on that baby at Hells Bells!


And its about time you lobbed back up here mate
Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

26 Mar 2012 10:53pm
Yeah, I've been half slack over the last month. Well fairly busy with work and surf.
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

4 Apr 2012 9:13pm
so the blank has arrived and bob spent 2 days fully hand shaping it....looks amazing holy Sh!t its big, 1 inch stringer looks amazing






62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

4 Apr 2012 7:37pm
Looking good and getting close thanks for the photos keep them coming
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

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4 Apr 2012 9:47pm
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62mac said...

Looking good and getting close thanks for the photos keep them coming


so excited hey...im like a 10 yr old on christmas eve
paulford
paulford

WA

312 posts

4 Apr 2012 8:21pm
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BigSpazz said...

62mac said...

Looking good and getting close thanks for the photos keep them coming


so excited hey...im like a 10 yr old on christmas eve


Hell yeah, who wouldnt... Enjoy the ride!

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smh

NSW

7269 posts

4 Apr 2012 10:57pm
Looks great Big Spazz. Keep the pics coming. The board looks interesting . I spoke to a shaper the other day about big boards like that and he told me he could do a 16 footer if I wanted. I think 11 would be nice. You are going to be king of the Pass. [}:)]
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

4 Apr 2012 11:00pm
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smh said...

Looks great Big Spazz. Keep the pics coming. The board looks interesting . I spoke to a shaper the other day about big boards like that and he told me he could do a 16 footer if I wanted. I think 11 would be nice. You are going to be king of the Pass. [}:)]


ha ha i will be catching waves from julian rocks with the size of this thing

will be getting glassed next week, will keep the pics rolling in
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

5 Apr 2012 4:17am
Like the hand shaped words on the blank,take it easy on Bob and don't overwork him
So a tint or are you keeping it nice and clean
It could almost be finished for our trip your way in two weeks,might sneak a peek if its still in the factory.
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