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12ft Longboard Glassing options?

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BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

25 Mar 2012 10:29pm
Hi first post here so be gentle

so i am in the process of getting a custom Mctavish Noosa 66 board made, yes as the title states it is going to be 12ft yes 12.

i currently own a 9'1 - 9'6 - 10'4 and 11ft board so i am no stranger to big boards.

i want to make the glassing heavy real heavy but i have never felt a board anywhere near the specs im looking at

the heaviest glassing option available to me is

6oz + 2x 8 oz with a 8 or 6oz deck patch on the deck, 8oz and 6oz underneath

the board also will have a 1inch redwood cedar stringer.

now i am a big guy im 6'6 and 115kgs im not afraid of the board being heavy but im starting to wonder if this board will be stupidly heavy even for a strong guy like myself.

so i suppose my question is has anyone ever felt/owned a board with this type of glassing, any opinions appreciated thanks
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

25 Mar 2012 7:41pm
Welcome the more takes the better imo

Yes I've owned aboard like yours but they called
it a stand up paddle board,real beast of a thing but
fun all the same.

That's one hell of a board you have on order,one inch
stringer
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

25 Mar 2012 10:48pm
ha yer i also have a 12ft sup but even still my sup is epoxy.

nice lime and milk board too i saw that many times in the glassing rooms very cool design, i only live around the corner from mctavish spend alotta time there
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

25 Mar 2012 7:51pm
Thanks mate and good to see new folks in here.We will be in town Wednesday and will ask for a lookie at your beast
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

25 Mar 2012 9:55pm
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62mac said...

Welcome the more takes the better imo

Yes I've owned aboard like yours but they called
it a stand up paddle board,real beast of a thing but
fun all the same.

That's one hell of a board you have on order,one inch
stringer


don't think any epoxy sup is going to be as heavy as this sucker.

question- why

ps mac, even the bullet is only around 13 to 14 kg's. pretty bloody good effect considering the lenght and thickness of gods gift to dw ing - the mighty 17'4 sic bullet
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

25 Mar 2012 10:57pm
its not in yet they are still waiting on the blank from burfords, they are gluing 2 1/2 inch stringers together

what is the heaviest glassed board you have ridden? how did you find it
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

25 Mar 2012 7:58pm
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laceys lane said...

62mac said...

Welcome the more takes the better imo

Yes I've owned aboard like yours but they called
it a stand up paddle board,real beast of a thing but
fun all the same.

That's one hell of a board you have on order,one inch
stringer


don't think any epoxy sup is going to be as heavy as this sucker.

question- why

Lacey you ask why

Hmm because we are all sick of you sup's stealing our waves,call it revenge word has it all lonboarders are going for this tanker

Question Lacey what fin would you run
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

25 Mar 2012 10:00pm
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62mac said...

laceys lane said...

62mac said...

Welcome the more takes the better imo

Yes I've owned aboard like yours but they called
it a stand up paddle board,real beast of a thing but
fun all the same.

That's one hell of a board you have on order,one inch
stringer


don't think any epoxy sup is going to be as heavy as this sucker.

question- why

Lacey you ask why

Hmm because we are all sick of you sup's stealing our waves,call it revenge word has it all lonboarders are going for this tanker

Question Lacey what fin would you run



bonzers mac, i keep telling you, it's all bonzers these days
obct
obct

NSW

3487 posts

25 Mar 2012 11:00pm
I know I've been very tempted to get a 12' Munoz because I love the 10'6 so much and I'm sure it would go just as well. But they're epoxe and relatively light for their size.

I just can't imagine how a 66 would work done large because they don't really look to be a real quick turner.

smh
smh

smh

NSW

7269 posts

25 Mar 2012 11:00pm
Did you ask this question at the factory ? That's heaps of glass.
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

25 Mar 2012 8:01pm
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BigSpazz said...

its not in yet they are still waiting on the blank from burfords, they are gluing 2 1/2 inch stringers together

what is the heaviest glassed board you have ridden? how did you find it


Just the standard 6 x 6.with tint adds weight which is great in small stuff super easy paddle in
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

25 Mar 2012 11:03pm
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don't think any epoxy sup is going to be as heavy as this sucker.

question- why

ps mac, even the bullet is only around 13 to 14 kg's. pretty bloody good effect considering the lenght and thickness of gods give to dw ing - the mighty 17'4 sic bullet


well because im a big guy, im tall, heavy im a front row forward with size 18 feet who likes to surf...physics would say i shouldn't be surfing

i want a big board that floats me like it floats the 70kg byron hippies i surf with, 2 paddles and there on to the slightest dribble i want to be able to do that
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

25 Mar 2012 11:06pm
i asked Billy Mclean if anyone is familiar with his work at mctvish head laminator been doing it for 40 yrs or so.
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

25 Mar 2012 11:08pm
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laceys lane said...

BigSpazz said...




don't think any epoxy sup is going to be as heavy as this sucker.

question- why

ps mac, even the bullet is only around 13 to 14 kg's. pretty bloody good effect considering the lenght and thickness of gods give to dw ing - the mighty 17'4 sic bullet


well because im a big guy, im tall, heavy im a front row forward with size 18 feet who likes to surf...physics would say i shouldn't be surfing

i want a big board that floats me like it floats the 70kg byron hippies i surf with, 2 paddles and there on to the slightest dribble i want to be able to do that









but why does it have to be heavy or do you mean heavily glassed


Heavily glassed...althou a 1inch stringer aint going to be light either
smh
smh

smh

NSW

7269 posts

25 Mar 2012 11:10pm
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obct said...

I know I've been very tempted to get a 12' Munoz because I love the 10'6 so much and I'm sure it would go just as well. But they're epoxe and relatively light for their size.

I just can't imagine how a 66 would work done large because they don't really look to be a real quick turner.




I reckon you're right . A board that big in a log which is pretty much what model is would take some turning. Imagine riding something like that how early you would be into the wave and the way it would glide being that heavy.

BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

25 Mar 2012 11:12pm
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laceys lane said...

BigSpazz said...





i might have it wrong. the glassing is to be heavy to support you,not so much you want a lead weight board


thats why im thinking that setup will be too heavy maybe go 2 x 6oz and 8 oz deck patch
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

25 Mar 2012 11:15pm
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smh said...

obct said...

I know I've been very tempted to get a 12' Munoz because I love the 10'6 so much and I'm sure it would go just as well. But they're epoxe and relatively light for their size.

I just can't imagine how a 66 would work done large because they don't really look to be a real quick turner.




I reckon you're right . A board that big in a log which is pretty much what model is would take some turning. Imagine riding something like that how early you would be into the wave and the way it would glide being that heavy.




im a point break surfer the pass or wategos at byron sometimes broken head. im not expecting to be doing great maneuvers on this board just point and glide, head for the nose

arkgee
arkgee

NSW

639 posts

25 Mar 2012 11:19pm
why so heavy spaz....I have a 12 foot tandem board...I glassed it with double six ounce top and bottom with an extra strip down the centre top and bottom and another strip along both rails....it's a great thing to ride and if its inertia that your after, it has plenty....glides like silk...and turns well...I think the 1" cedar and an eight and six top and bottom would be more than enough....too much weight may work against you in a board that big...I think...anyway I'm sure the boys at Mct's will steer you the right way.
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

25 Mar 2012 8:19pm
Geez don't let billboard know your a point break man.I bags a ride on her
smh
smh

smh

NSW

7269 posts

25 Mar 2012 11:24pm
A 12 foot redline pintail would be nice.
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

25 Mar 2012 11:28pm
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arkgee said...

why so heavy spaz....I have a 12 foot tandem board...I glassed it with double six ounce top and bottom with an extra strip down the centre top and bottom and another strip along both rails....it's a great thing to ride and if its inertia that your after, it has plenty....glides like silk...and turns well...I think the 1" cedar and an eight and six top and bottom would be more than enough....too much weight may work against you in a board that big...I think...anyway I'm sure the boys at Mct's will steer you the right way.


yer thanks mate i think i might go with double 6 and possibly a 8oz deck patch....
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

25 Mar 2012 11:29pm
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62mac said...

Geez don't let billboard know your a point break man.I bags a ride on her


u wont miss me...let me know when your around and we will tee it up
chrispychru
chrispychru

QLD

7932 posts

25 Mar 2012 10:31pm
follow the lords footsteps my brother. you will not need glass when you love god. HE will always take care off your soul no matter what you do. so give your love to our saviour and everything will be great
BigSpazz
BigSpazz

NSW

946 posts

25 Mar 2012 11:31pm
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smh said...

A 12 foot redline pintail would be nice.


i have a board similar to a redline in my avatar pic....it has concave nose to double concave tail very flat rocker....i want something with a rolled bottom always liked the involvement the 66 is just the involvement on steroids as bob puts it
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smh

smh

NSW

7269 posts

26 Mar 2012 12:00am
It all sounds good some pics would be good and the other boards as well.
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

26 Mar 2012 12:55am
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smh said...

obct said...

I know I've been very tempted to get a 12' Munoz because I love the 10'6 so much and I'm sure it would go just as well. But they're epoxe and relatively light for their size.

I just can't imagine how a 66 would work done large because they don't really look to be a real quick turner.




I reckon you're right . A board that big in a log which is pretty much what model is would take some turning. Imagine riding something like that how early you would be into the wave and the way it would glide being that heavy.




almost like,like _____________ a 12'6 sup race board. problem is mine aren't that heavy.

boy those bonzers give you some real bite and drive mac. i'm thinking there is a bit of lift there too
obct
obct

NSW

3487 posts

26 Mar 2012 5:21am
Just because it's big, why must it be heavy

Your issue is early wave entry and to me, that means you need volume not weight, so every square inch of volume you have should be dedicated to floating you, not the board itself.

I recently borrowed a very heavily glassed board for a test, it was the Issac Fields model from Bennett's, it was so hard to pick up waves, I was reduced to catching whitewater and trying to ride out into the clean water, it was hopeless.

As I was getting out of the water to grab old faithful and go back in for a real surf, a buddy of mine was going in and he said something that will stick with me for a long time. He said he borrowed the same board and he also thought it was useless and he reckons that the reason it's called an Isaac Fields model is because he's the only one who can ride it.

That's when I realized that board weight may be a good thing for someone like Isaac who would be lucky to be 11 stone ring'n wet, but for a big bloke, it's just another burden to overcome.
Kagey
Kagey

569 posts

26 Mar 2012 4:06am
I had a 12' Mickey Munoz a couple of years a go..great board wish I never sold it It was great for big paddle outs and caught waves with ease..I was looking at an 11' footer last year for the slow fat waves here, it didn't transpire but I do still think about getting a custom done...not as wide as those Munoz ones though!
towball
towball

4634 posts

26 Mar 2012 5:11am
Hi Spazz , we have a couple of guys over here with 12ft heavy glass jobs , both are getting pretty old I havn't riden them but have been offered suppose I should have , they are bloody heavey they carry them on there shoulders they say the drive is incredable .One was made by Steve Johnson (jinx)here in Gizzy . the other by Del surfboard in New Plymonth the owner of the jinx board has been riding a surf tech the same as mine latley don't know why if that tells you any thing
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BigSpazz said...

Hi first post here so be gentle

so i am in the process of getting a custom Mctavish Noosa 66 board made, yes as the title states it is going to be 12ft yes 12.

i currently own a 9'1 - 9'6 - 10'4 and 11ft board so i am no stranger to big boards.

i want to make the glassing heavy real heavy but i have never felt a board anywhere near the specs im looking at

the heaviest glassing option available to me is

6oz + 2x 8 oz with a 8 or 6oz deck patch on the deck, 8oz and 6oz underneath

the board also will have a 1inch redwood cedar stringer.

now i am a big guy im 6'6 and 115kgs im not afraid of the board being heavy but im starting to wonder if this board will be stupidly heavy even for a strong guy like myself.

so i suppose my question is has anyone ever felt/owned a board with this type of glassing, any opinions appreciated thanks


tankchamp
tankchamp

90 posts

26 Mar 2012 5:13am
just buy a jet ski.
towball
towball

4634 posts

26 Mar 2012 5:14am
Too much time spent with pup give your self an upper cut chrispy
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chrispychru said...

follow the lords footsteps my brother. you will not need glass when you love god. HE will always take care off your soul no matter what you do. so give your love to our saviour and everything will be great


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