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cantSUPenough said..
Well, I am impressed... I did not know that normal people actually ate like that.

Having just stacked on a lot of weight I am looking more closely at taking a better diet. But going for more than a week is a challenge. I usually try a mixture of starvation, exercise, and mind control.

Someone put me on to leangains.com/ and I read the book. Didn't lose any weight though... Some of what I read above seems to resonate with what I remember reading. Anyone tried leangains?

What is your motivation? Better performance? Extending life? Looking good on the beach? Or a bit of everything?

Leading up to a surf trip I get motivated, then all the old habits come back...

I got motivated because of getting old and worrying that going into my 60s overweight and out of shape would start me down the geriatric path. Summer of '17, my BMI was over 34 and I was kayaking but not regularly and mostly short distances fishing. Very little other exercise. Decided to get serious and had a goal in mind that was reasonably healthy, but would have still been a little overweight.

I starting tracking everything I ate - calories, protein, fat and carbs - and making sure it was less than I burned with few exceptions. Took up SUP paddling and went all in. I blew by my first goal and kept going.

My BMI has been under 25 for 9 months and in 3 weeks I will turn 60 with visible abs (I have been to the gym, not just paddling). There are no guarantees, of course, but I think I increased my odds of living a long and healthy life. I was really getting worried about settling into the old man sedentary lifestyle.

Yes, it's a challenge and I had to do it a hell of a lot longer than a week. I still have to watch what I eat, logging pretty much everything every day. I use a phone app that has a database with nearly everything in it, so logging isn't all that hard. I can just scan bar codes for prepackaged stuff. If I just try to eat lighter/healthy I will blow right back up; I had to accept that natural eating isn't going to work for me.

Mostly you have to decide it's important enough.

What is the name of the App you have RTG??

MyFitnessPal. It's also a web site. It's free unless you get their premium to get no ads, more in depth reporting and whatnot, I use the free level.

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Gboots said..
The main concern should be about what's going on inside . Externally you may seem ok and bang your have a heart issue.
The other thing is the crap in foods today . Who knows what that leads to
(eg cancer). Where possible I try to avoid processed foods or anything that has additives or strange preservatives . Eating a mix of veg , fish , and legumes has been the real change for me . I eat heaps but quality stuff. I was extremely satisfied when i recently reduced my total cholesterol from 6.6 to 4.6 in 2 months just by eating clean, removing nearly all dairy and eating small portions of meat but heaps of fish and almonds / almond milk .

You can make yourself crazy following all the conflicting info out there. One day coffee and eggs are the key to a long life, the next day they are death at the diner and the next week they are good again. Fish are good for you unless they kill you because of mercury poisoning. Red wine is correlated with good health but any form of alcohol is correlated with a higher risk of early death. etc, etc, etc...

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RideTheGlide said..

Emeboy said..

RideTheGlide said..

cantSUPenough said..
Well, I am impressed... I did not know that normal people actually ate like that.

Having just stacked on a lot of weight I am looking more closely at taking a better diet. But going for more than a week is a challenge. I usually try a mixture of starvation, exercise, and mind control.

Someone put me on to leangains.com/ and I read the book. Didn't lose any weight though... Some of what I read above seems to resonate with what I remember reading. Anyone tried leangains?

What is your motivation? Better performance? Extending life? Looking good on the beach? Or a bit of everything?

Leading up to a surf trip I get motivated, then all the old habits come back...

I got motivated because of getting old and worrying that going into my 60s overweight and out of shape would start me down the geriatric path. Summer of '17, my BMI was over 34 and I was kayaking but not regularly and mostly short distances fishing. Very little other exercise. Decided to get serious and had a goal in mind that was reasonably healthy, but would have still been a little overweight.

I starting tracking everything I ate - calories, protein, fat and carbs - and making sure it was less than I burned with few exceptions. Took up SUP paddling and went all in. I blew by my first goal and kept going.

My BMI has been under 25 for 9 months and in 3 weeks I will turn 60 with visible abs (I have been to the gym, not just paddling). There are no guarantees, of course, but I think I increased my odds of living a long and healthy life. I was really getting worried about settling into the old man sedentary lifestyle.

Yes, it's a challenge and I had to do it a hell of a lot longer than a week. I still have to watch what I eat, logging pretty much everything every day. I use a phone app that has a database with nearly everything in it, so logging isn't all that hard. I can just scan bar codes for prepackaged stuff. If I just try to eat lighter/healthy I will blow right back up; I had to accept that natural eating isn't going to work for me.

Mostly you have to decide it's important enough.

What is the name of the App you have RTG??

MyFitnessPal. It's also a web site. It's free unless you get their premium to get no ads, more in depth reporting and whatnot, I use the free level.

So how much do they spam you? It seems you have to give them every personal bit of info and give them (and their affiliates) consent to use every bit of data you enter... I guess you don't have to provide true birthdate, etc., but they have your email address...

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cantSUPenough said..

RideTheGlide said..

Emeboy said..

RideTheGlide said..

cantSUPenough said..
Well, I am impressed... I did not know that normal people actually ate like that.

Having just stacked on a lot of weight I am looking more closely at taking a better diet. But going for more than a week is a challenge. I usually try a mixture of starvation, exercise, and mind control.

Someone put me on to leangains.com/ and I read the book. Didn't lose any weight though... Some of what I read above seems to resonate with what I remember reading. Anyone tried leangains?

What is your motivation? Better performance? Extending life? Looking good on the beach? Or a bit of everything?

Leading up to a surf trip I get motivated, then all the old habits come back...

I got motivated because of getting old and worrying that going into my 60s overweight and out of shape would start me down the geriatric path. Summer of '17, my BMI was over 34 and I was kayaking but not regularly and mostly short distances fishing. Very little other exercise. Decided to get serious and had a goal in mind that was reasonably healthy, but would have still been a little overweight.

I starting tracking everything I ate - calories, protein, fat and carbs - and making sure it was less than I burned with few exceptions. Took up SUP paddling and went all in. I blew by my first goal and kept going.

My BMI has been under 25 for 9 months and in 3 weeks I will turn 60 with visible abs (I have been to the gym, not just paddling). There are no guarantees, of course, but I think I increased my odds of living a long and healthy life. I was really getting worried about settling into the old man sedentary lifestyle.

Yes, it's a challenge and I had to do it a hell of a lot longer than a week. I still have to watch what I eat, logging pretty much everything every day. I use a phone app that has a database with nearly everything in it, so logging isn't all that hard. I can just scan bar codes for prepackaged stuff. If I just try to eat lighter/healthy I will blow right back up; I had to accept that natural eating isn't going to work for me.

Mostly you have to decide it's important enough.

What is the name of the App you have RTG??

MyFitnessPal. It's also a web site. It's free unless you get their premium to get no ads, more in depth reporting and whatnot, I use the free level.

So how much do they spam you? It seems you have to give them every personal bit of info and give them (and their affiliates) consent to use every bit of data you enter... I guess you don't have to provide true birthdate, etc., but they have your email address...

"They" are UnderArmour and there is a central place to unsubscribe from all. Mostly they are about ads on the site.

BTW, If you use gmail, you can make up a + account. The + and anything after it are ignored for delivering it but you can use it to weed out mail with a rule. So if my email address is MyName@gmail.com I might register as MyName+RudeWebSite@gmail.com and if spam starts coming in using that address, set up a rule to toss it all.

After waking up from minimum 12 hours sleep I get my houseboy to add a sprinkle of Himalayan rock salt to a glass of freshly spritzed Evian.

Then I get him to feed me exactly 7 almonds while he chooses pages to recite to me from my positive affirmations book.

Then I have 1/3 of a cup of pre-chewed organic tofu (houseboy does the chewing and spitting into my open mouth). This saves on me producing my own amylases so I can preserve energy for the big paddle I am about to partake in.

I'll usually have a quick session in my oxygen tent, I'm really getting into O3 right now, great for the shakras.

I'll put on my fanny pack (loaded with carbo shots) then paddle across to the other side of the bay (about 200m). Then I will meet my pilates instructor who will take me through a series of lunges. I don't do any other type of pilates, just lunge-based movements, it really opens up the colon, very important for my scheduled 9.45am defacation and bidet wash up.

I'll often go back for some SUP yoga, but usually need to obtain some extra sustenance from organic flowers (petal based diet has really cleared up my auras), followed by a shot of wheatgrass with guarana and a lemon infused chinchilla urine shake.

My trouble is I lose weight , what's best to eat to keep it on . Never been able to keep it on . Any advice

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roachy said..
My trouble is I lose weight , what's best to eat to keep it on . Never been able to keep it on . Any advice

The very simple answer is to eat more than you burn, so move less and/or eat more. Add something calorie dense to your diet or eat more of a calorie dense food you already like/eat. Join the dessert first club . Only half kidding; the takeaway is don't fill up on low calories vegetables and salad first - a strategy to aid weight loss. Do pay attention to protein, fat and carbs split and make sure it is reasonable. I am purposefully avoiding defining what "reasonable" is; that's a whole discussion/debate in itself.

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Gboots said..
The main concern should be about what's going on inside . Externally you may seem ok and bang your have a heart issue.
The other thing is the crap in foods today . Who knows what that leads to
(eg cancer). Where possible I try to avoid processed foods or anything that has additives or strange preservatives . Eating a mix of veg , fish , and legumes has been the real change for me . I eat heaps but quality stuff. I was extremely satisfied when i recently reduced my total cholesterol from 6.6 to 4.6 in 2 months just by eating clean, removing nearly all dairy and eating small portions of meat but heaps of fish and almonds / almond milk .

Yes indeed, I'm convinced genetic modification of foods has given birth to the explosion of celiac disease, gluten intolerance and in my case irritable bowel. I can no longer consume some of the foods I so much loved. All the foods are in essence good for you but not all are good for me. Its a pain in the arse

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micksmith said..

Gboots said..
The main concern should be about what's going on inside . Externally you may seem ok and bang your have a heart issue.
The other thing is the crap in foods today . Who knows what that leads to
(eg cancer). Where possible I try to avoid processed foods or anything that has additives or strange preservatives . Eating a mix of veg , fish , and legumes has been the real change for me . I eat heaps but quality stuff. I was extremely satisfied when i recently reduced my total cholesterol from 6.6 to 4.6 in 2 months just by eating clean, removing nearly all dairy and eating small portions of meat but heaps of fish and almonds / almond milk .

Yes indeed, I'm convinced genetic modification of foods has given birth to the explosion of celiac disease, gluten intolerance and in my case irritable bowel. I can no longer consume some of the foods I so much loved. All the foods are in essence good for you but not all are good for me. Its a pain in the arse

There has been a rise in celiac cases from below 1% to about 3% of the population:

www.the-scientist.com/features/the-celiac-surge-31438

In the article, they do briefly touch on what you refer to, calling it Frankenwheat, and saying it is controversial. No suspected cause has enough evidence to make any educated assumptions yet. GMO has produced wheat with more gluten in some cases and it is possible that exposure to higher levels of gluten are a factor in the surge, but they also note that diets have changed over last several decades to include more wheat. There has been no evidence of GMO products in general causing problems. Some GMO strains of plants more are resistant to pests and are therefore less likely to be contaminated by pesticides. They often increase yield while lowering water requirements. The CDC, WHO, EFSA and pretty much every major health organization in the world supports the position that GMO crops are safe.

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roachy said..
My trouble is I lose weight , what's best to eat to keep it on . Never been able to keep it on . Any advice

See a nutritionist, my brother in law has this same problem.

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RideTheGlide said..
They often increase yield while lowering water requirements. The CDC, WHO, EFSA and pretty much every major health organization in the world supports the position that GMO crops are safe.

On the GMO topic, one should be very careful to avoid biased studies. For instance, Monsanto/Bayer GMOs are extremely bad, not because of the GMO seed themselves, but because of the way Monsanto/Bayer uses them: they make the seeds resistant to the Roundup herbicide, and then force farmers to use massive doses of Roundup, which is insanely dangerous. And they use dishonest tactices everywhere, such as never testing the Roundup but only one component (the Glyphosate) out of nearly a hundred who compose the Roundup, who seems the real culprits. And at doses much smaller than the ones needed in practice once resistant weeds quickly appear.

Plus nature finds a way(*). For the GMOs that produce built-in pesticides, you get better yield the first years, but quickly the pests evolve and become resistant, and the yields fall back again, and they then must use massive doses of Round up, that not only destroy our common environment, but cost more to the farmer than the productivity gained. In real life, after some years, GMO yields are worse than non-GMO yields, but farmers are locked in by shady business practices of most GMO companies.

In a nutshell, GMO is a scientific advance, that can be used for good or evil purposes, just like any scientific or technological advance. What we should focus on is the way they are used.

I recommend on this subject the documentary "Roundup facing its Judges" m2rfilms.com/espace-membres/roundup-facing-its-judges-the-dvd where experts expose the nefarious tactics of Monsanto. It is a documentary on the mock Monsanto trial in La Hague:
www.monsanto-tribunal.org/

(*) See for example: sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2015/roundup-ready-crops/

Monsanto's R&D was one of the best things that happened to GMO. Monsanto's business practices are one of the worst.

Don't worry about all that flash turn out.
This'll sort you out.