Sunova Speed 9'5 at Makorori Point last weekend. Footage is from a couple of days. Have got two cameras which is kind of a luxury as you get lots of footage......but gets confusing in the edit process. So some footage might be repeated but from a different perspective.
Plus the sun was shining straight in the eyeballs when on a wave
Plus you would be crazy if you spent too much time putting a vid together so it is kind of whacked together

I have heard you growling about the music some people use the words stones and glasshouses spring to mind .

I see you just about had a knee boarder for breakfast there to

Gotta keep that knee boarder a little bit worried

Doesn't even look very wintry over there. good to see .

Nice video..I'm thinking of getting a 8'5 speed or the 8'4 flow..as a third board in my quiver as a change up from my Minion..are these available in NZ..I see them on TM ..and what's the difference between the two boards..and how would it compare to my 7'8 Minion

Best to ask Sup The Creek......he has a hard job.......helps Tino carry the Sunova boards around.......and so has probably surfed every Sunova board that ever was made

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Aquarian said..
Doesn't even look very wintry over there. good to see .

water is actually still quite warm.....its that mental problem of when you wake up and its still dark and there is a wind shill factor. So have been a bit of a wimp and wearing my Xcel hooded 4/3

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towball said..
I have heard you growling about the music some people use the words stones and glasshouses spring to mind .

I see you just about had a knee boarder for breakfast there to

Think my usual nickname is not "growly" but "grizzly"

Hard to escape Towball.......here he is haunting me and trying to steal my waves at the point this morning......why can't he be home in bed like any normal over 60 year old?

Towball aside, your spot seems very relaxed. Mellow vibe to go with the beautiful veiws. And what nice waves.

I got the ball cam, you have introduced the nose bugger cam.

Have watched your videos.......your waves look pretty empty too

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Supmaori said..
Nice video..I'm thinking of getting a 8'5 speed or the 8'4 flow..as a third board in my quiver as a change up from my Minion..are these available in NZ..I see them on TM ..and what's the difference between the two boards..and how would it compare to my 7'8 Minion

The Speeed has more parallel rails, draws longer turns down the line, for tight carving turns, step back near the stomper.
The wide nose gets more stable, the harder you paddle into a wave and paddles very straight....the kick saves you on late, steep drops.

The Flow has a curvy outline, so it is easy to turn from the middle... it will pump tighter, quicker turns when running down the line.
The Flow is snappier into the lip and gets vertical easier than the Speeed.
The Flow does not paddle as straight as the Speeed.

The Speeed is narrower, so I need to ride one the same size as a traditional design
The Flow can be ridden shorter IMO
I need a 9'2 Speeed in winter, but could ride the 8'10 Flow in the same conditions

The Speeed has a more domed deck
The Flow has a flatter deck.

I prefer the Speeed to the Flow, because I have to ride bigger boards... and the 9'2 Flow is too wide in front of the fins, for my tastes.
I am sure I would really like a smaller Flow, if I could ride it.


I can't answer to the Minion comparison, because I have no experience with them.

Gizzie said
Best to ask Sup The Creek......he has a hard job.......helps Tino carry the Sunova boards around.......and so has probably surfed every Sunova board that ever was made

Nope.... I don't carry boards. Part of the deal (old back)... Tino is a little grumpy about that
I drive the truck and surf.
I haven't ridden the Style yet, but yeah, most of them! .. pretty lucky to have access to so many great boards!

Pimping as it may sound.... I want one of each.
They all bring something different to the table, and all are good. better than good. frickin' good... Bert continues to amazes me.
I would have bet the farm that I would not like the Skate.
ha ha.... I would have lost the farm.

Thanks guys..that's my only reservation about the flow as the one I like is 29+"wide..which seems a little wide for me..hence why I like the 8"5 Speed..at 112L..although it's a simple shape to my Minion I'd imagine the pulled in tail and thin nose makes a noticeable difference to the Minion. Just have to hope someone wants to sell there's soon..the wait time is 2 months from our NZ dealer

A perfect situation Sup The Creek........you drive to a new exciting beach.....someone else carries your board down the beach for you

Gizzy.... the Point looks super fun at that size... fun video!
I may have to come back over there to join you someday

A very warm winter here......hardly anyone else out and lots of room for everyone for sure

Hey STC
Great comparison between the Speed & the Flow but what about the bottom? - the speeed is very flat - what about the flow is it the same as the speeed or is there more concave or Vee on the flow etc? and what about the rails on the flow are they the same or more pinched, thinner or fatter than the flow??:-)
I am thinking about getting a small flow as an allround performance board, I previously owned a speeed and an acid but I did not like the rails and flatish bottom :-)

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Johndesu said..
Hey STC
Great comparison between the Speed & the Flow but what about the bottom? - the speeed is very flat - what about the flow is it the same as the speeed or is there more concave or Vee on the flow etc? and what about the rails on the flow are they the same or more pinched, thinner or fatter than the flow??:-)
I am thinking about getting a small flow as an allround performance board, I previously owned a speeed and an acid but I did not like the rails and flatish bottom :-)

Why not go a custom Sunova then??

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Johndesu said..
Hey STC
Great comparison between the Speed & the Flow but what about the bottom? - the speeed is very flat - what about the flow is it the same as the speeed or is there more concave or Vee on the flow etc? and what about the rails on the flow are they the same or more pinched, thinner or fatter than the flow??:-)
I am thinking about getting a small flow as an allround performance board, I previously owned a speeed and an acid but I did not like the rails and flatish bottom :-)

Hi John

The Flow has a slight single concave all the way through the board to the fins.

I had the 9'2 Flow for 4 months and rode a fair amount of good waves with it.... it was a bit wide (in front of the fins) for my taste, especially in the bottom turn....but it was easy when pumping across the face.

I finally got to ride an 8'10 Flow without a wetsuit and it suited me much more than the 9'2... unfortunately it was for one very short session.
The Flow really starts to look good to me at 8'10 and shorter.
I hope to get an 8'10 again and get some videos on it.


I have an Acid now, it has become my favorite board, but I have to ride the 9'4 to be comfortable at my size.
Even at 9'4 it gives me much snappier performance than I have found in any board.... and more challenging than my other , smaller boards.

The Flow is a very different board than the Speeed or Acid, but honestly, the 9'2 Flow felt "flatter" than the Speeed or Acid to me.
The Speeed tail carves such a nice tight turn
The Acid tail is so thin and narrow that it is easy to sink into a turn or "push" out to slide a little on a cutback.
The Acid also accelerates out of a turn with a quick compress and release.

Since the Flow can be ridden smaller than the Acid or Speeed, it may work for you as an all around performance...
but since the rails on the Acid and Speeed didn't suit you, I suggest you demo a smaller Flow before committing to one.... everyone has different needs.

Here is what Bert Burger says about the Flow bottom and rails:

Thanks STC
I think the 7'7" or maybe the 7'5" Flow would suit me but I can not try / demo (it is too hard so I just buy & then sell if not suitable), I did not like the Speeed (7'6") and I really did not like the Acid (7'6") but I really like the Sunova quality, construction and weight of Burts boards so if I can find a second hand or demo model then I will buy it ?:-)
thanks again for you feed back :-)

Can be tricky deciding what music is "nice".......must have been nice going to a party where these guys were playing though