BUILT FOR SPEED
Please note this is just feed back on my SIC f18 Downwind SUP not to talk myself up.

Paddled my f18 flat water ocean board today from Bilinga to Nth Burleigh total distance 11km
( this is my back yard SUP training Downwind Run )
Conditions:- ESE winds 15 knots one foot of SE swell
In these small average ocean conditions the f18 is the fastest Unlimited Downwind board I have ever paddled in Australia. Got some fun unbelievable runners STOKED that went for BULK the nose of my f18 was like a Hound Dog just kept on sniffing out the runners UNREAL.
I did the 11km in 56:38 minutes. (& fell of twice )
& yes there are guys in Australia that would smash this time!
My fastest ever SUP Downwind time was at Maliko on Maui this year 2010. Conditions were Pumping 15km in 63:00 ( breake in down to 11km in 46:20 )

This is my Garmin 310XT GPS reading
Slit Time Distance Speed
1km 5:13 1.00km 11.5km/h
2km 5:11 1.00km 11.5km/h
3km 5:11 1.00km 11.5km/h
4km 4:56 1.00km 12.2km/h
5km 5:12 1.00km 11.5km/h
6km 5:17 1.00km 11.3km/h
7km 4:57 1.00km 12.1km/h
8km 5:12 1.00km 11.5km/h
9km 4:59 1.00km 12.0km/h
10km 5:07 1.00km 11.7km/h
11km 5:12 1.00km 11.5km/h
TOTAL 56:38



I love going Downwind SUPing when I'm with someone or when I'm by myself when the surf is blown out.

see ya in da ocean
DW

that's pretty good phil. tell me, would you put the bullet somewhere inbetween the f16 ans f18- sorta like a medium conditions board or is that off the track
cheers

Good work. Well over 11kph for the whole run and over 12 average in parts. How does the f18 feel and what about balance?

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laceys lane said...

that's pretty good phil. tell me, would you put the bullet somewhere inbetween the f16 ans f18- sorta like a medium conditions board or is that off the track
cheers

Yep I have all 3 boards
f16
Bullet
f18
I enjoy all of the 3 SIC they are all BULK FAST & you can ride all 3 in any conditions but are hard to beat when they come into there own
( in ocean conditions that is )

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BWDave said...

Good work. Well over 11kph for the whole run and over 12 average in parts. How does the f18 feel and what about balance?

Bulk tippy & a lot of board to handle but the f18 needs some kind of water brakes installed just to slow it down a bit.
My GPS said 17km/h in parts but I didn't want to talk it up.

Just got myself a GPS - now if only I could figure out how to use it....

Anyway, we had a 10km on the dot downwinder last week in Cape Town where Chris Bertish came in just ahead of me and my average speed was 11.6km/h - only problem (for me) was he started 5-8 minutes after official time-keeper had started us and overtook the entire field - his average speed was in excess of 13km/h!

We both used Glide 14's - and it was gusting to 35knots.

From my limited downwinder experience unless I would say unless your paddleing in an indoor pool there really is no point to keeping times or km averages as the variables are far to many. Even flat windless days you still have tides, currents, rips (just to mention a few) effecting your times

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Downwinder said...

laceys lane said...

that's pretty good phil. tell me, would you put the bullet somewhere inbetween the f16 ans f18- sorta like a medium conditions board or is that off the track
cheers

Yep I have all 3 boards
f16
Bullet
f18
I enjoy all of the 3 SIC they are all BULK FAST & you can ride all 3 in any conditions but are hard to beat when they come into there own
( in ocean conditions that is )

if you could only have one sic- which one
cheers

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Downwinder said...

BWDave said...

Good work. Well over 11kph for the whole run and over 12 average in parts. How does the f18 feel and what about balance?

Bulk tippy & a lot of board to handle but the f18 needs some kind of water brakes installed just to slow it down a bit.
My GPS said 17km/h in parts but I didn't want to talk it up.

Hey DW What do you reckon the highest wind would be that you would take the f18 out? I have heard Mark R talk about up to 15knots for best perfomance, how does this compare to your experience? I know the f16 could go in a hurricane but the 18?

I would love to know who is red thumbing DW for this thread, good info IMO.

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doggie said...

I would love to know who is red thumbing DW for this thread, good info IMO.

Ditto !

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doggie said...

I would love to know who is red thumbing DW for this thread, good info IMO.

Neither can I doggie,Bumped into DW a while back,great guy just like myself.

Flame suit on

LOL very funny with the red thumbs people

Great work DW ,Just how do you download the info and bring up the maps?

I've just bought the Garmin 310xt ,and it's a great watch .But I'm finding it hard to gather the info and display it like you have.

Are you coming to the Mambo?

If so I would appreciate (over a few beers) on how to work the damm watch properly !

Boylos

I read Kalama had done average speed of 16km/h on a dw-run - so that's what we're aiming for here - not sure if it can be done here as we're on wind-swell more than ocean swell due to direction. But nice to know those times can be done. We keep track of our times so we can learn why times improve/deterioate - I agree it's somewhat pointless comparing them from one run to another, but having some benchmarks lets you understand how a different line, equipment and conditions affect your times.
Next week we should have a few more 30knot plus days and soon we'll start having 40+ days as well - will keep you posted.

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boylos said...


Great work DW ,Just how do you download the info and bring up the maps?

I've just bought the Garmin 310xt ,and it's a great watch .But I'm finding it hard to gather the info and display it like you have.

Are you coming to the Mambo?

If so I would appreciate (over a few beers) on how to work the damm watch properly !

Boylos

Just keep playing with ya watch it on ya laptop I've had my GPS watches now 3 years from the 305 & now the 310 love both watches but ya need an education degree just to work them out ( & yes I got no patience )

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if you could only have one sic- which one
cheers

good question? its up to you for wich SIC is right for you!

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Hey DW What do you reckon the highest wind would be that you would take the f18 out? I have heard Mark R talk about up to 15knots for best perfomance, how does this compare to your experience? I know the f16 could go in a hurricane but the 18?

My f18 is made for 15 knots or less ( bulk fast in da flat ocean with no wind ) you can take this f18 out in stronger winds if you're goood enough like good friend Scotty Trudon or Alan Cadiaz

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PeterP said...

I read Kalama had done average speed of 16km/h on a dw-run - so that's what we're aiming for here - not sure if it can be done here as we're on wind-swell more than ocean swell due to direction. But nice to know those times can be done. We keep track of our times so we can learn why times improve/deterioate - I agree it's somewhat pointless comparing them from one run to another, but having some benchmarks lets you understand how a different line, equipment and conditions affect your times.
Next week we should have a few more 30knot plus days and soon we'll start having 40+ days as well - will keep you posted.

G'day PeterP I just went over some old GPS reading from when I was training for Molokai my speeds averaged 16km to 18km you can get up to speeds of 30km/h on a good runner.

I take my hat of to you PeterP doing Downwinders in Cape Town it would do my head in. Mate I've seen some big fish while going Downwind on the Gold Coast & a BIG Bull Shark just mist my 17ft SUP when doing a Maliko run on Maui if I had some go in me like Steve Irwin I could have grabed the Bull Shark by its tail. ( help me please Mr Wizard )

Is it true that people buy the f16-18 etc because the name sounds like a fast jet plane. There for it makes you go faster, especially the red one's?

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tingles said...

Is it true that people buy the f16-18 etc because the name sounds like a fast jet plane. There for it makes you go faster, especially the red one's?

Sorry Tingles ( too funny ) you've got that wrong

have no experience with down wind runs but find the info and feedback interesting to read. Ocean paddling not for wimps IMO.

Green thumbs for DW from me!

cheers froggo

Molokai sounds like the biscuit - I'd imagine it's because your riding actual ocean swells and not just windswells like us.

Chris max gps speed is 22km/h so definately slower here.

We do have a run in False Bay (home of Seal island and jumping Great Whites) which has the ocean swell running with the wind so maybe we'll be quicker there.

Sic boards do sound great , i went for a purely flat water paddle last night by moonlight and my GPS clocked 4.8Klm in 37Min top speed 18Kmh average speed 7Kmh.

www.endomondo.com/login?returnUrl=/workouts/vQFkKxbBAow

I know ive got some improving to do , just started training regular , wish i could get to Jackos sessions in the morning , but work dictates otherwise.But night paddling is very cool expecially with a fullish moon.

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teatrea said...

Sic boards do sound great , i went for a purely flat water paddle last night by moonlight and my GPS clocked 4.8Klm in 37Min top speed 18Kmh average speed 7Kmh.

www.endomondo.com/login?returnUrl=/workouts/vQFkKxbBAow

I know ive got some improving to do , just started training regular , wish i could get to Jackos sessions in the morning , but work dictates otherwise.But night paddling is very cool expecially with a fullish moon.

hi, teatrea, i do some light paddling on wednesday afternoons working on technique and stuff if you would like to come along and have someone to paddle with
cheers

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laceys lane said...

teatrea said...

Sic boards do sound great , i went for a purely flat water paddle last night by moonlight and my GPS clocked 4.8Klm in 37Min top speed 18Kmh average speed 7Kmh.

www.endomondo.com/login?returnUrl=/workouts/vQFkKxbBAow

I know ive got some improving to do , just started training regular , wish i could get to Jackos sessions in the morning , but work dictates otherwise.But night paddling is very cool expecially with a fullish moon.

hi, teatrea, i do some light paddling on wednesday afternoons working on technique and stuff if you would like to come along and have someone to paddle with
cheers

Yeah ill be in that mate , i usually dont finish till around 5.00 at the earliest though.
But let me know when youre going out and ill tag along.